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7 years ago
I remember the first club I got a lapdance at. I'd been to a few no-touch clubs in college. But then a buddy of mine told me he'd gone to SF, and they had these things called lap dances. "Let me get this straight -- the girls sit on your lap and wiggle around for... how much?" "$10." "$10. You're saying $10." "Ya. $10.". Drove with him up to New Century Theater a week later. Don't exactly remember my first lap dance, those first couple of trips were a blur
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7 years ago
Erah, that game west straight to chelsea. Wicked shiesty, I tell ya! I'll be sitting in the dark on the hoppah, eatin a grindah and sobbing
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7 years ago
-->"Shit! I used the wrong sign-in."
LOL totally understandable given the sheer number; sometimes I think the only ones on the entire site are me, Dougster, and the Indian packers and movers. And I'm not so sure about the Indians.
(cue the shot of a bunch of Indian movers and packers, and one is saying, "I will be betting you 5000 Indian Quatloos that that motherfucker Subraman is Dougster!")
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7 years ago
-->"We're having an old-fashioned troll fight! Ace!"
The best part is, I'm pretty sure they're the same person.
In totally unrelated news: Hi Dougster!
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7 years ago
She can't reply right now, her mouth is full
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7 years ago
I'm like BJ in that it's absolutely weird to me too, but I don't do nightshift where most of the conspicuous consumption types that Papi refers to are there, and my circle of friends is definitely not the "order champagne just for myself" types... though I might not be shocked to walk in and see one of them alone at a table with nothing but a whiskey bottle on it lol
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7 years ago
mark: ya, I think this is one of a number of newly-created alter egos telling stories. Still fun to debate about.
Anyhoo... just for grins I asked a good friend and fellow SCer who is a LEO what he thought. Right off the bat, he said it all sounds fishy. When strip clubs have payment problems, the manager handles it. They'll almost always call the cops right to the club; and if the incident was egregious enough, they might issue a petty larceny infraction on the spot. Even if the club messed that up and wanted to follow up with him the next day, he felt it is always the manager or some senior staff that runs this, not some random person from the club. Lastly, he said that even if they had a video and took him to court, he thinks it would not be a slam dunk -- the judge would have to be satisfied that they didn't completely take advantage of a drunk guy.
All in all, in no uncertain terms, he said do not return physically to the club, and if you do want to see if there's any evidence, ask them to send you the video -- we do have email, it's quite easy to get video clips without you having to go onsite physically. In all, he and I both feel that going back to the club -- meeting the manager in the lobby, whatever -- is as colossal a blunder as the initial using the credit card and getting blackout drunk, especially given the likelihood that this is a scam.
Those of you above: if your bullshit meter didn't go off, hearing that a random person from the club called him the next day, that might be cause for some re-calibrating. (and yes, I realize the whole story might be made up lol)
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7 years ago
Dirk, long thread so easy to miss, but we mentioned it. I think we're all going easy. Here's what I said: "1. Paying by credit card in the strip club, and getting so drunk that you may or may not have blacked out . I don't like blaming the victim, but there's such colossal bad choices being made, I kind of feel like $450 as a bad choices tax is getting off lightly."
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7 years ago
That's what Deja Vu did in all the clubs near SF for superbowl L. Probably a smart business move to reap the one-time influx of rubes. It's a good week for PLs to stay away from the club
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7 years ago
Meeting is good, but happens rarely. You want to have fun, you need to get on the dick pic group chat. Every night at 10pm eastern. Oh behave!
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7 years ago
The other half sent dick pics to that hot little number in the lower right
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7 years ago
Half of our Mumbai packer and mover spammers just came
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7 years ago
-->"This is guy is trolling us and he's not even trying to not make it obvious "
Meanwhile, some of the guys are still completely fooled, so there you go. f_m_RIL must be wondering what he can possibly do to stop getting serious replies.
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7 years ago
A bit more bootylicious than I like, but that chick is break-the-curve hot
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7 years ago
Okay, so just the waitresses and a stripper dreaming up a scam, I can't imagine it being anyone but management doing the contacting, if it were for real. More then ever, I'd counsel "Do nothing"... I don't believe, if the club were behind this, they'd have some random person call you, so I tend to think you did not do the dance and do not owe the stripper money.
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7 years ago
-->"I'm not the best a explaining"
Ha ha, little bit of an understatement :) Well now that you got us all riled up, you'll have to tell us what happens. My guess is nothing, but stranger things have happened I suppose.
Could you clear up: who contacted you? Was it club management? The stripper? Someone else? If club management contacts you, you might ask for the proof (copy of the video, or a clip from it, of you getting a dance in the VIP).
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7 years ago
So weird, the influx of brand new posters with the oddest situations going on! Okay, under Papi's theory of "even if it's a troll, an actual lurker out there might have the same question".
First, to review the lessons learned:
1. Paying by credit card in the strip club, and getting so drunk that you may or may not have blacked out . I don't like blaming the victim, but there's such colossal bad choices being made, I kind of feel like $450 as a bad choices tax is getting off lightly. Hey, every one of us has done dumb things in strip clubs, just learn from it.
2. It shouldn't be that hard to write a clear, concise description of what actually happened. The fact that we're still taking guesses after multiple posts, means perhaps some work on communication skills is warranted.
3. There's some serious weirdness going on here, from a man just wanting to buy a bottle of champagne at the strip club "just because", to ... well, almost everything else.
Still, here's what I would do:
*** If I were absolutely certain I did not do that dance: simply cease communication with the stripper entirely (if it's in fact the stripper who has been doing the communicating. I dunno for sure.)
*** If there's any chance I did that dance, then I owe it to the stripper to find out for sure. Call the club, talk to the ***manager*** and no one else, get a copy of the signed visa bill for $450 plus at least a short clip of whatever video they claim to have. Pay the girl if you owe her. Cease communication if they have any excuse for not being able to come up with any evidence. Absolutely do not go to the club, smartest decision you made -- only thing waiting for you there is a beating
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7 years ago
-->"I try not to be a little bitch, but I try not to be rude either."
Or, in other words, you also follow my rule #1 :) :)
Anyway, just to be clear, my response wasn't directed at you personally, just a general rant on things
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7 years ago
shadowcat is like the old western gunfighter of the group, I see him sitting in the corner with his black cowboy hat tilted low; oddly, although the room is completely dark, there's a little slit of light that shines only across his eyes. If the McPyle brothers come in, those lily-livered horse wrangling good for nothings, shadowcat may have to draw, barkeep.
(I like to sit with my back to the wall too LOL)
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7 years ago
Ha, the girls really are brilliant in their own way. So easy to underestimate them, but that's a mistake. I have to say I don't notice much of what you describe either, but I have to guess it's:
1. One of the many strategies that works by depending on the customer being confused about strip-club etiquette vs real world romance etiquette. In this case, feeling super guilty about ignoring the strippers (who fill in for "your date" or other pretty girl you're interested in)
2. A practiced by those whose approach works by surprise... girls who sneak up to hide their body, girls who specialize in things like guys who just got there so they're a bit off-kilter
3. Punishment of the customer for being on the phone
I imagine these techniques work often.
As JackScott implies, the real counter here is to follow my rule #2: Don't be a little bitch. You weren't doing anything wrong, there's no reason to be intimidated by a 22-year-old in her underwear, just ask for or say what you want. That could be anything from, "Hey there! I'm so sorry, I have an urgent work email that I have to answer!" if you feel like staying on your phone, to "Hey, you snuck up on me, you're like a navy seal sneaking up on bin laden! (chuckle together about it) I missed you on your approach, give me the model twirl" if you actually want to see what she looks like
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7 years ago
Ya, the "how can I guarantee she will come to me and not other customers", the answer might very well be JS69's technique of flashing hundreds of dollars and basically implying that he's going to spend more money than anyone else there. It's so not my style that it's not something I'd personally do, but if it IS your style, I think JS69's way is probably as foolproof as it gets.
For me, I will tip her, and just say "if you're not with any customers right now, I'd love to buy you a drink and get some dances, I'm sitting over there." In the very slow shifts I go to, this tends to be enough. During busy shifts, there's definitely no guarantee.
galiziabob's approach is kind of cutesy and fun, if it's your style, gets your point across about doing a VIP without coming across so intense
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7 years ago
Her ass is a little flat even for me, but she's so gorgeous otherwise from head to toe, plus that girl next door cuteness, makes that easy to forgive