So you see the girl you like best in a club (assume you are not a regular and she doesn’t know you). She is up dancing on the stage and getting lot of attention from the men- tips and all.
How would you approach her to ensure she comes to you after she gets off stage and not get stuck with some other men( some maybe her regulars)? Or do you ignore her and look for someone who is not as busy?
No fool proof way of getting a dancer in high demand. You could try giving a large tip to show you have money and are serious about spending on her but if she has a whale or regular it doesnt matter what you say or how much you tip her. She will go back to them after she gets off stage. If shes available however, all it takes is a few bucks and ask her. But ultimately she will do whatever she wants, as she should.
If I have time to wait, I just wait. Otherwise I find out how many guys are in line and decide if I wan't to cut in front. More dancers than you'd think will leave a guy they know waiting for a stranger on the chance he's a good score.
go tip her, and remain standing, if you can. Ask if she has time for a dance after this, if she says she’s sitting w someone, ask her how about a vip then. You haven’t paid for it yet, so you can still negotiate. If she tried to negotiate then, tell her you will talk price when she comes over to you. This is a decent time to show that you are spending money, by tipping 8 or so ones all at once (but don’t throw them). This is how guys who know what they want tend to approach, and I never make them wait long.
Start with the basic premise you were on stage first--no, not dancing but
You came to the club dressed decently You have a smile on your face You treated the other staff appropriately You ordered a drink/food and you tipped.
You were probably spotted before she spotted you.....
You walk up to the stage and you tip her, smile, make eye contact---( only said half joking her eyes are above her shoulders not below.)
And you ask her to come see you when she is done with her rotation.
If you can talk to women outside the club, communicate in the work place outside the club, you can talk to any girl who is dancing.
@Bj99 I don't recommend asking for a VIP with a girl i have no experience regardless of how popular she is on stage. Good stage shows have no correlation with good dances/VIPs. Also is negotiating VIP pricing really a thing? All the clubs i've been to, the VIPs/CRs are all set pricing. Usually $175-200 for 15 minutes, around $300 for half an hour and about $500 for the hour with the club taking over 1/3 to as much as 1/2 of that. The club take was completely non-negotiable (believe me i've tried). I don't think i've ever seen a girl go down in price (as she usually makes less doing rooms than doing dances for a similar amount of time). She might go up but that's usually when negotiating extras. Most of the girls just tell what the price is, hopefully honestly, but usually the VIP host collects the money (plus an inferred, implicitly or explicitly, tip for himself) which includes the dancer's cut which they receive later not including any tips for extraordinary service. Yes, the only real negotiating with dancers involves extras or OTC, as VIPs and dance prices are usually well established at the clubs i frequent.
As for the OP's question, I would ask the girl when i tip her on stage if she was available for dances. Usually she'll agree to a dance with you and ask where you're sitting although most girls have vulture vision, but sometimes you never know. Then it's on her to find you. Or if you know her name, you can ask a floor host/bouncer about the girl. They'll either send over or even personally escort said dancer to you if they can find her and she isn't "busy". They'll often expect a tip for this service though, so if you never tip them, they'll probably remember and ignore your future requests after pretending to listen to you. You can try the same with a waitress. Waitresses might not be as effective (a lot of them don't even know all the girls), but tips are usually cheaper with them. Finally you can always chase down the girl yourself on the floor if you can see her, or worse yet just literally "holler" at her while she's on the floor. That's my last resort, although i have often approached girls standing or sitting around that otherwise would have never come to me.
Just remember that if a girl really doesn't want to dance for you for whatever reason, she won't. And who wants a dance from a girl like that?
flash a wad of cash $$$$$ rules all
The question was how to get her on his lap, and asking for a vip is likely to work well, when it’s busy. How desperate he is to get that girl, is his call, and not for me to judge. There are a number of strategies as to choosing a girl, and negotiating, but I was just advising as to getting her on his lap.
Plus, when a man approaches this way, it puts pressure on the girl (in a good way), bc his confidence in what he wants, also means that he’s likely confident in what he doesn’t want.
What’s so difficult about approaching the girl when she is on stage and asking her to come by and talk to you for a few minutes give her a 5 and 99 out of a 100 times she’ll come and sit with you for a bit. The one time she doesn’t tells you what you need to know.
Ya, the "how can I guarantee she will come to me and not other customers", the answer might very well be JS69's technique of flashing hundreds of dollars and basically implying that he's going to spend more money than anyone else there. It's so not my style that it's not something I'd personally do, but if it IS your style, I think JS69's way is probably as foolproof as it gets.
For me, I will tip her, and just say "if you're not with any customers right now, I'd love to buy you a drink and get some dances, I'm sitting over there." In the very slow shifts I go to, this tends to be enough. During busy shifts, there's definitely no guarantee.
galiziabob's approach is kind of cutesy and fun, if it's your style, gets your point across about doing a VIP without coming across so intense
I'm just saying that there really is no guarantee (as there really isn't in life in general), but the methods explained above will work the vast majority of the time. I would say that i've gotten over 99% of the girls i was interested in onto my lap these ways and it didn't require getting a VIP, except the times i was never able to communicate with the girl (only saw her vaguely on the floor) and she was nowhere to be seen from that point on; never even knew her name. Detailed in one of my fairly recent discussions (the stripper that got away).
Her being on stage doesn't say anything about her availability - I rather wait till she's on the floor and looks unoccupied and then get her attention (make eye-contact, smile, wave at her, or just approach her)
I do like to show respect to some of the girls on stage that being said I'll usually sleep on the 5 or 10 I don't do ones... I would simply tell her I'd like a dance sometime if she's free and leave it at that.
text to speech...sorry...tip her and let her know you want a dance or two and leave it at that.
Make a reservation thru Open Table
If she has a regular waiting, she won't come to you even if you tip $25 . If she has nobody waiting she will come to you if you tip $2 and ask her if she can give you a dance. It's all FCFS basis.
Tip her and just hope, hope, hope she comes to you. In the scenario you gave she's more than likely to go to one of her regulars if she's getting all that attention. Your best bet is to tip her however much you can afford hoping she sees, ask her to come by, and hope she decides to take a chance on you. I've seen times where it's slow, and only one guy tips and the girl goes to smoke or dressing room.
The main thing is to not act hungry. If you act like you only want her - she will know that you will wait. She also knows you will pay what she wants.
If she’s got good paying regulars waiting - you might not get her for a bit. It could be a long bit - as she might chat with each regular - and they might get dances from her too.
You seem to have specific tastes - and you might find it very difficult to remain open to a large selection of available dancers. That can be limiting - and the dancers notice that.
i find interacting with her and a few dollars tip while she is on stage seems to work most the time.
Cashman1234 - You are absolutely right. I have very specific tastes in how the dancer should look. I never feel happy no matter what other things are on offer, if the looks don’t meet my criteria.
And I agree that is my biggest limiting factor
I’ve not found a good way to get around regulars. It’s not so much what he might spend tonight or right now. But the fact he represents a large amount of money over time. For me, by going on Friday or Saturday night between 8 and 11 it avoids most of the regulars except for the young, party crowd regulars. Nights like these are more conducive to sharing and more likely she’ll stop down either with. Modest tip (like $3) or just the mention that we’re interested in dances.
On Friday, she’ll stop by for 30 min, chat, get a couple dances. After which she might stay and chat, work the room, or go back to the party table she was first at. Overall it’s less lock-down than day-shift or weekday-nights. Those shifts are more regulars-driven. YMMV.
I walk up to the stage with a dollar in one hand and my iPhone in the other. When the dancer comes close to collect the tip, I pocket the dollar and show her the dick pic on my phone. Works every time.
^ good one :)
Jackslash - lol! I’d suggest showing her a video of your freshly baked lasagna - right out of the oven - still steaming and delicious!
Put a bigger than normal tip down at the stage. When she comes up to you to collect it and give you a tease show, don't hesitate to asked her if she is available right after her set or when she will be available ASAP. Then tell her you'll be waiting and point to where.
Most of the time this works but every now and then she forgets or goes to a higher bidder.
@Dominic77 you are right most of the regulars don't bother to hit the clubs Friday or Saturday nights those are generally the days that those girls take off and do OTC with their regulars.
Fr/Sat nights at the more-popular clubs is often filled w/ amateur SCers kinda fucking things up for the real SCers.
I just tell her on stage while tipping her that I would like to get to know her and get a dance. Either that or I wait until she is off stage, then approach her and strike up a conversation that eventually leads to a lap dance. Last night this one girl was really into her stage dancing so when I went to tip her I said "your having way too much fun up here" she said why and I told her that she needs to save some of that fun for me in the VIP. It worked and I had some amazing 2 way contact dances at Bourbon Street. The chick was amazing!