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12 years ago
My internet on my phone is bad. Ive been out in the middle of nowhere for a couple days. It was supposed to be a comment but now I dont remember what it was
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12 years ago
@georg-
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12 years ago
@Che- Aahhh, How did I guess I'd get a spiteful answer like that from you? Probably because I deal with your " kind" three times a week. You do sound like you have some pent up anger as one postr claimed. You dont like what I have to say to you so you resort to personal insults like "slacker". Adults on this site are hard to come by I'm figuring out.
Alucard is right by the way. He knows a great deal about me, that lucky guy lol
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12 years ago
Try being a dancer. Its just as bad
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12 years ago
I second club_goer
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12 years ago
@Che- I'd agree but I'll throw in some other numbers. I work 3 days a week. I do tip out most of the time and pay a house fee or others depending on where I work. I also take vacations from work. I take weeks off occasionally so I dont get too burnt out AND I have some expensive hobbies.
I enjoy myself alot but I dont see the point of throwing in the towel while I'm still on top. I see that as throwing away an opportunity. Maybe in a couple years when the fire burns out but that's about it
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12 years ago
@georg- If the internet on my phone quits crapping out, I can put all this in one post.
I don't do specials or I charge regular price. Yes, management gets mad but they can fire me, i dont care, I'll go down the street to someplace else. Also I investigate places I work very carefully regarding tip outs and I'm extremely stingy with Djs if they are assholes. House fees can be rough depending on the club and how much they make off alcohol or not. Here in Seattle, I keep the whole time $30. We have no stage fee or dance fee. We pay around $140 a night and whatever we make beyond that is ours.
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12 years ago
@jackslash- When has a stripper ever worked that much?? I work 6 hour shifts and 3 days a week. The rest of the week is spent on my hobbies. Oh and I believe I said " prime night" in my phrase. So your calculations are not relevant.
@georg- Yes we're at different places .90% of my lap dance business is from $30 dances. I should have mentioned that before. Also Ive never worked anyplace where VIP was less than $400 per hour. Thats a minimum rate. The club will take a cut but then you negotiate your own " tip" on top. These are non extras clubs also. Ive worked at extras clubs before and actually made more money but was just too risky to stay.
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12 years ago
Although your last couple paragraphs have some points.
My phone is acting weird or I would have put everything in one post
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12 years ago
@che- Im literally laughing right now. Youre fucking hilarious buuuuuut youre also wrong
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12 years ago
@jackkash- I can understand your point. Everyplace can turn into a mill. It depends on the work ethic of the girls that work there. It would definetly disrupt the natural flow if all dancers hustled hard though.
@govikings- I dont stay in the strip club business just to "get by". I could do that anywhere without taking my clothes off. When you work in places without high rollers, its more about seizing your opportunities. I try to seize all opportunities and bring out the maximum benefit for myself. Granted there are days when I just feel off and I'd rather hang out with a guy that will give me a massage and offer me $10 a song to sniff my feet. I have those days but I dont make it a habit. Maybe that'll pay someones bills but it wont pay mine.
@gsv- To each his own. For the record, I actually spend half my time in clubs that dont serve alcohol. And I refuse service to the severly intoxicated. They make me start to grind my teeth.
@motorhead- Ive never had a manager tell me that, especially when I'm selling rooms where they get a cut.
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12 years ago
@randy- I see your point. Ive worked at normal places but I worked a hell of alot harder, thats for sure.
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12 years ago
Of course most dancers dont think long term. Look at the turn over rate of dancers. Shit, look at the turnover rate of customers. One walks out and another walks in. Some customers just come in once or twice. Thinking short term for ALL customers isnt good. Youve got to be reasonable though. If a dancer believes shes worth a certain amount, thats it. If a customer doesnt want to pay me what I think I'm worth and I'm the one selling my body, you better bet the price is high. There will ALWAYS be someone who will pay it. Ive learned that much.
Im usually pretty nice on this site so excuse me if I seem " bitchy" but $400 an hour ISNT SHIT for one girl in a strip club on a prime night, especially at closing time and especially if shes in high demand. Of course if you ask her to sit with you for an hour and shes about her business as she should be at work, shes going to charge you.
If you guys could only see and experience what I have, it would blow your fucking mind. The money that travels through these clubs and that you can make off half the guys that walk in is insane. The things that I've had offered to me on a nightly basis, Omg, I value myself, I really do, but some of this stuff is nuts and I dont understand how people afford it.
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12 years ago
It does suck many strippers dont have good business sense as you say, but from what youve written, it looks like this one does. You were annoyed you couldnt get to her earlier because she has alot of business. Sounds like people like her. She doesnt want to sell her time short. When is that bad business sense?
Dancers are a dime a dozen. So are customers. If you pay me fair, you stay. I dont sell my body or my brain for cheap. You can find another dancer, I can find someone who sees my point of view. I dont have a problem generating business though. Sounds like this chick doesnt either
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12 years ago
I dont know. It depends on the girl. If shes a busy girl and you have a hard time getting time from her, it sounds as if she generates alot of business. You pay for 5 dances at $20 each. Each song is approx 4 min. Thats roughly 15-30 min total for $100 factoring in talk time. So an extra $100 for her to spend an extra hour with you is cheap. Time is money. She could be making $400 in that hour if she's as busy as you claim. Plus the end of the night is usually a busy time. Guys who have been sitting around wasting time finally realize they are running out of time so its prime lap dancing time. In my not so humble opinion, you got out cheap.
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12 years ago
I will also add that if you are not an American citizen and you will be working and living here, its really best to do it legally and get a visa.
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12 years ago
Many cities will make you get an entertainers and business license. You have to go to a city hall and register for a business license and a separate entertainers license. They will require a social security number and they will fingerprint you and run a background check. There will be a fee associated with this.
I would check with the club you want to work in.
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12 years ago
And it keeps getting better and better (eye roll)
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12 years ago
Who the hell cares if hes good looking. Who cares if he's a fucking Calvin Klein model, he's got $600.
I have no idea what he spent the money on. Why dont you ask him? Im sure you wouldnt be married to a liar, right? If you cant trust what he tells you, it sounds like there is bigger problems then strip clubs for you guys
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12 years ago
@georg- some were ongoing and two were just once. Im sure both of the scenarios you mentioned are possible but I dont get in depth with them other than to make sure both people, separately , are okay with what is going on. Meaning I talk to them separately and double check.
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12 years ago
Be very careful. I have had experiences with numerous threesomes. I have never had sex with the male customer but I would still call it a threesome. You can use your imagination. The wife was always 100% game. As time went on, one person always started getting funny about it. They were okay with it then things started to change and it couldn't be undone. One spouse started secretly holding it against the other and all of the couples have now divorced. I refuse to do them anymore
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12 years ago
Or someone writing a paper or script about the strip club industry
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12 years ago
No social media here so I wouldn't think of it
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12 years ago
Was it a general B.O. scent? Was it sweat? It could be that she needs to wash her outfit. Ive smelled some nasty outfits. You dance for a guy with some body odor and dont wash your outfit for a couple work days and you will smell nasty.
Im not sure how you would approach the smell situation. I cant imagine someone coming to work without a shower and deodorant. Definetly dont tell another dancer about it as someone suggested. Thats cruel and it will probably cause a serious locker room fight.
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12 years ago
Tabb- lol 90% of strippers arent attracted to guys with strip club addictions either.