Cubans
I know I'm going to get shit for this, but can somebody here tell me what the deal with Cuban dancers is?Sometimes I'll be looking through tuscl here and the writer will say something like: 'I walked in the club and saw too many Cubans and knew it was going to be a rough night,' or 'could be a good time if you like messing around with Cubans,' that type of thing. It seems like there is an understood characterization that I'm not familiar with. I've only been to clubs around the mid-Atlantic and part of the Midwest and while I've met some cool Hispanic ladies, none of them were Cuban.
The general tone of identifying Cubans seems to lean negative, but from context it seems like Cuban dancers are:
-very curvy, typically big butts, not exactly skinny (I have no problem with this)
-often offer higher milage dances with extras (sounds good)
-don't usually speak very good English (maybe not ideal, but whatever)
-kind of look after each other? -seems like guys talk about a lot of Cubans at any one club, not just one or two (ok, smart)
-maybe don't ask for a lot of money, but sort of expect it? - is this the issue? sometimes sounds like they offer high mileage for cheap, but then get mad when you don't give them more ...? I don't get it, which is it?
-maybe there's just an understood racism, but doesn't seem like most people here complain about Hispanic dancers generally, just Cubans, so I'm just confused
What am I missing?
Please someone spell out for me what you mean when you mention Cubans. I'm heading South this summer into Cuban club territory and want to know what to expect if I get a chance to visit some of them.
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So, if by south you mean south Florida, I'd toss most of the preconceived notions of strip clubbers from other areas where Cuban strippers aren't as ubiquitous. The clique of 5-6 Cuban strippers in local clubs across the country aren't representative of the Cuban's you'll find in south Florida clubs where we'll have a clique of 4-5 American strippers in a club dominated by Cubans.
the best suggestion i can make is based on interactions with all the other latina groups: learn some espanol. this more often than not helps.
In clubs where most customers are from out of town, the dancers are not trying to get regulars, and the claws are out. Cuban or not.
Puddy, you mention aggressiveness. Do you think that might be what turns people towards a more negative impression? If that's it, good to know, but I look forward to experiencing it for myself.
At Hi-Liter in Phoenix, there's at least 30 Cubanas working there. Most are dayshift, and an amazing amount carpool in together. There may be 20 Cuban dancers in the club at noon, and one car in the parking lot, as the rest are dropped off at the club. They hang out together, and always greet each other with a kiss when they arrive. They are, simultaneously, the hardest workers and the laziest workers in the club. While a number may just at a table and endlessly scroll through their respective phones, or have a hen party at a larger table, they will also get up and work the room. Most (not all) are "wanna dance" types, as their grasp is English is very poor. Usually, when faced with a "no thanks" from a customer, they'll respond with a "one dahnce bay-bee" and then move on.
Body types vary, many do have BBLs and/or boob enhancements, it's probably a 50/50 split at HL. Mileage ranges from "meh" from the more shy dancers who are probably only there because they've been told to be there by their "sisters" to complete GFE with extensive two-way contact. Very, very few, IME, have been deceptive upsellers or ROBS. I think they don't want the hassle of potentially losing their jobs. Like any other service provider, if they provide stellar service, you damn well better tip them. I do, and I can tell you the girls who I get dances from literally tag team each other with me when I'm in a club, and the dancers who have asked me in the past and been told "no" leave me alone.
What I find humorous is that other Latinas (Mexicans, Colombians, Venezuelans, etc.) at my clubs complain more to me about the Cuban invasion than the customers do. As the clubs slow down for the summer here, they're worried about them cutting into their own business.
Outside of Florida, I find them in general to not be as hot, also simultaneously the hardest working and laziest, and I can barely understand their Spanish. Also, mileage isn't as good as south florida.
Every non-cuban dancer has told me that they are cliquish and they drive down prices.
My first experience with Cuban nationals (not referring to people of Cuban extraction who mostly grew up in the USA; referring instead to citizens of the nation of Cuba, who grew up there, who culturally exhibit traits from there, but who now are traveling to the USA to work as strippers) was at the full-service clubs in Pompano Beach. Around 2015 or there-abouts. Now in 2024 I find that some Cuban nationals are appearing in some New Orleans strip clubs. Haven't really been clubbing in other cities much during that time.
In Pompano I found them to be extras-focused, service-oriented, reliable but impersonal.
They operated in a manner designed to corral a customer for a specific service, generally full service in a private booth, which they performed efficiently and for a reasonable fee as agreed upon. There was not much (not any!) up-selling, there was general trustworthiness, but there was also a very low degree of interpersonal flirtation. I speak some small amount of Spanish, but I found that this didn't really matter. They were all business.
The reliable level of service could be refreshing. Among my other experiences in clubs in the USA, there might seem to be greater risk of rip-off, in the form of a promise of more than is given even though more is paid for. So it's more patently reliable from the Cubans.
But also, I found the Cuban directness a bit dispiriting. I began to realize, by comparison, that one of the experiences which I value in a strip club, is the continual ongoing flirtation. I want a dancer to slowly warm me up, and to act like she and I are having a mutually enjoyable interaction. I want that we share funnies together, she maybe leans against me on the main floor, we fondle each other a bit, that kind of thing. The glossary calls some of this Stripper Shit, but defines it mostly negatively. I like it mostly positively. I found that interactivity entirely lacking among the Cubans at Pompano. This fact might be due to the specific club, not the nationality, but the style of club and dancer had to have gone at least partly hand-in-hand.
Of course I'm generalizing here. The more of them that arrive, the greater the variety will be.
Just be aware that haggling over Google translate can take more effort than you're looking for and provide comedy in unexpected ways. I'm not the biggest fan of their tactics but also get they're trying to make a living with limited options. I'd imagine my whole approach to clubbing would be different if my early days of ITC-only with less cash had a bunch of hot n' horny Cubans (who let's be honest are often among the hottest girls on the floor) in the mix.
Funny thing is that my Spanish is actually pretty decent, but there are two things working against any communication in the club:
1-It's often just too loud and I have problems understanding anyone regardless of what language we are speaking.
2-The Cuban accent in Spanish can be challenging in any setting anyway.
I'm with Book in that I prefer to have fun with the girls before any play. Hope I get the chance.
¡Yo también! Por esto, prefiero Tijuana y las mexicanas, más que las cubanas en Miami. Creo que las mexicanas son más apasionadas.
(Me too! And for this reason, I prefer Tijuana and Mexican women more than the Cuban women in Miami. I think Mexican women are more passionate.)
I declined because it was too unknown, but it felt like it had pitential and could be interesting. Also felt like it could end in miscommunication. Which happens often enough with girls that arent imports.
The deal is that some guys don't know how to handle bitches, especially Cubanas. Know enough spanish and don't be "clueless gringo guy", and you'll have a better time. If a pushy stripper bothers a dude, he may be playing the wrong game.
Many of these girls came here under not so great circumstances and underneath a sweet, feminine exterior, they are hard af (of course not all of them have a sweet exterior). They, one way or another, escaped a communist regime to have a better life. The ones who haven't become americanized yet are often humble and grateful but they are still tough as nails. So, don't treat them like princesses. You'll have more money, more respect, and they'll have wetter VJs.
They seem to travel in packs, which I suppose is a good thing as they have a support system, but it also makes them lazy about learning the language. Club owners seem to welcome them though as they solve a lot of problems - they show up when they're supposed to, are willing to work long shifts, draw guys in because of their willingness to go the extra mile and don't generally seem to do candy.
They washed through Jacksonville in a huge wave some years back with mixed results. They stuck in a couple of clubs (especially Wackos), but not so much in clubs where more social interaction was the norm. A lot of the good ol' boys around these parts still like 'dem All 'Merican women, lol.
The "traveling in packs" is just how migration works. Intranational migration (emphasis on the A in intra) works the same way BTW. Like how a bunch of dudes from the University of Wisconsin end up together in LA sharing a house or working for the same company. You're exactly right about the support system aspect.
> it also makes them lazy about learning the language
I have a lot of sympathy for English language learners. It's fucking hard to learn a language, and English is a particularly weird and difficult language to learn. To learn any language fluently, it's like a 1,000+ hour investment. Most language learners won't ever get beyond an intermediate level. And at an intermediate level you're able to understand a decent amount, and to produce connected text on important topics, but speaking spontaneously is still downright difficult, and you still sound like a complete beginner at the language.