As a follow up from blahblahblah23's discussion, I suppose it depends on the club, girl and location but how high a percentage do you think a girl gets asked about OTC possibilities from all the interactions she has with a guy per night?
I'd agree with gmd. Just judging by the complete and total lack of surprise when I ask, its obvious that it's not a rare occurrence.
I'm not sure I can speculate on the % of customers though. I imagine it varies wildly based on all sorts of things I can't even think of. I probably bring it up at most with 1 in 100 strippers that I interact with, but even that is a bit of a wild guess. If the reverse held true, I'd guess her percentage wouldn't be much different. But it's not hard to imagine her interacting with over 100 guys over the course of a few hours on many shifts, thus getting asked every shift.
And I have no idea how typical of a customer I am in regards to asking about OTC. To many on here, asking about OTC seems to be a big, frightening thing. To others, like me, its a simple question in line with the environment.
As everyone else says I’m sure the dancers are asked several times per shift, you’ll need to pose this question to the girls if you want an accurate answer.
I would love to see a statical breakdown of this kind of stuff.
All I'll say is, whoever these other guys are, they must be paying ABSOLUTELY TOP DOLLAR. Jesus Christ. Some of these girls don't even want to start a conversation under 4 digits. I've since checked out of most of that stuff and instead went to just check out new strip clubs, get some LDK's for a whole lot less money. But then again I'm also one of those assholes who doesn't factor in the gas costs, so I probably just gave all those thousands saved right back to Sonoco. Yeah I'll drive 6 towns over to save a $1 on a coffee, I'm that guy, fuck it.
How often do they get asked about OTC? You have to consider a lot of things here. The club and its location is huge. In Chicago, I would guess almost never, since there's very little groping allowed at most clubs. In Tampa, it's understood that sex is part of the program, so getting asked is more common I'm sure. You also have to consider that most people going to clubs aren't hardcore stripper mongers like the TUSCL crowd, they just pop in once in a while with a friend to see some naked women, they don't even imagine that they could possibly have sex with these women. While I've been having serious grinding sessions ending in satisfaction since the mid '90s, it's only been recently I've come to realize that sex was on the table at many clubs (in Tampa). In that previous time, I had only two women ask me about OTC, although now I realize that there were others implying it and I was too dense to see it. Again, how often they get propositioned is almost impossible to tell given all the variables.
@Alfredo_Darke: "You have to consider a lot of things here. The club and its location is huge. In Chicago, I would guess almost never, since there's very little groping allowed at most clubs. In Tampa, it's understood that sex is part of the program, so getting asked is more common I'm sure."
Based on what I've seen, almost none of that matters with regards to how often dancers are *asked*, except that it might happen even more often in no extras clubs.
If a club is known for common and relatively inexpensive ITC sex, then there's little incentive for OTC requests except for convenience or the hope of more privacy and maybe a slight discount.
On the other hand, in a club that has no tolerance for extras ITC, I would expect requests for OTC to be pretty common.
Now, whether or not those requests are *accepted* is a different question entirely.
Alfredo, your response suggests you think OTC means something other than asking for sex Outside The Club? In my experience guys ask for OTC in every club in every city, no matter what mileage may be available Inside The Club.
My stripper FWB (late 20s, no extras, good grind dances with touching everywhere but kitty) said she generally got asked once or twice a night, but some were "would you do it for $500?" and others seemed just curious if it was available and the possible cost.
But like anything she could have a week no one asked and then a shift it was every other guy
Unless Chicago is some kind of anomaly, I agree with Alfredo. I haven't been to a Chicago proper club in a while now, but hanging out with the girls they always tell some story how they were offended someone asked for OTC, like it never happened before. I think in Chicago it's such a lost/expensive cause, most don't even bother.
I know this is super duper common. I have seen girls literally everywhere either be offended or pretend to be offended. I think it's fucking retarded to act offended. There was at least one girl somewhere I travel danced a few months ago in Oregon who like every time I was there was always acting upset in the dressing room about people asking her otc and she lectures about how she is not a hooker. It took a lot for me to bite me tongue and not tell her to chill the fuck out jfc and that nobody gaf if she is a hooker or not. The funny thing is at that club the damn owner was trying to pay me for sex favors lmfao. I don't go there anymore or dance anywhere at the moment cuz i'm lame lol! I hate Oregon clubs with a passion.
My favs tell me they get asked for it constantly. The annoying part is many PLs just assume all strippers will do whatever for $ similar to what streetwalkers would ask for.
huh lol? It's been years since I gave a fuck what dudes assume I will do or not do. Though I am also one of those chicks that idk apparently I don't have the innocent charm or whatever. Like I've had a lot of guys tell me I come off like one thing or another or would do xyz, but honestly I cannot be offended because this has helped me make money.
I've had a dude keep asking me for a $50 blowjob when he spent over $700 on dances with me where he didn't even get to grope me. Like I literally just cannot be bothered to be offended over stupid shit, it would really fuck up my money. I already sabotage my own money by getting pissed at dudes and not being patient with them lmfao- don't need to sabotage myself by pretending to be offended. It's like this is the strip club and you sell a fantasy. I'll be whatever the fuck you want me to be in that fantasy so long as the money keeps coming my way.
It annoyed them because being considered the same as a street walker makes dating, maintaining a relationship, and finding and keeping a straight job in the future harder.
Well, if I'm the customer they will be asked. When I first started hanging out in strip clubs I was afraid if I asked for OTC the stripper would scream and call the police. The worst they ever do is say no.
I rarely ask, but if I do, it's only in a vague way, so it could be interpreted as a money for services thing or asking for a date/hook-up. That way, the dancer shouldn't get offended.
Stuff happens. I've had dancers legitimately ask me out and I thought they were looking for P4P. Yeah it did not go well. The worst part is they're usually gorgeous and I'm left doing the facepalm for not bothering consider they were actually interested in "me" and not my money lol.
OTC is kind of a PITA, TBH. Doing it on a bed is nice and all, but not worse the hassle of renting a room (can't do it at home in my case), scheduling, wondering if she will show, etc. So, if they will do it ITC, why would I bother? I've had a couple who agreed to come to my room after their shift, which is nice, but when I'm traveling I'm also working and it screws up the business part of the trip. On a couple of occasions, I've had the conceit of making "projects" out of trying to "convert" super-hot dancers who couldn't or wouldn't do it ITC, including dinner dates, etc, but I think I've finally learned to shake that impulse.
When I first started this hobby years ago I would sometimes ask about OTC. Then I stopped because of too many no shows. Now I only do OTC if the girl is the one that wants to do it and active pursues it and seems to have her shit together
Manuel, I've had a shit ton of customers who would make me their project to try to convert OTC extras. Some though also literally just wanna hang out outside the club no funny biz nothing sexy. I really never understand what goes on in somebody's head, and there are all different types of people out there.
Interesting thread, where PLs cite what they have been told by dancers as the absolute truth, and yet if the thread was do stripper's lie; 100% of the same posters would say yes, all the time. Oops I get it. If you agree with what a dancer says, it's the truth. If you disagree, it's a lie.
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OTC
ITC sex
Marriage
Some fetish shit
Sell panties or shoes
Date me, no sex
Etc., etc., etc.
I'm not sure I can speculate on the % of customers though. I imagine it varies wildly based on all sorts of things I can't even think of. I probably bring it up at most with 1 in 100 strippers that I interact with, but even that is a bit of a wild guess. If the reverse held true, I'd guess her percentage wouldn't be much different. But it's not hard to imagine her interacting with over 100 guys over the course of a few hours on many shifts, thus getting asked every shift.
And I have no idea how typical of a customer I am in regards to asking about OTC. To many on here, asking about OTC seems to be a big, frightening thing. To others, like me, its a simple question in line with the environment.
All I'll say is, whoever these other guys are, they must be paying ABSOLUTELY TOP DOLLAR. Jesus Christ. Some of these girls don't even want to start a conversation under 4 digits. I've since checked out of most of that stuff and instead went to just check out new strip clubs, get some LDK's for a whole lot less money. But then again I'm also one of those assholes who doesn't factor in the gas costs, so I probably just gave all those thousands saved right back to Sonoco. Yeah I'll drive 6 towns over to save a $1 on a coffee, I'm that guy, fuck it.
While I've been having serious grinding sessions ending in satisfaction since the mid '90s, it's only been recently I've come to realize that sex was on the table at many clubs (in Tampa). In that previous time, I had only two women ask me about OTC, although now I realize that there were others implying it and I was too dense to see it.
Again, how often they get propositioned is almost impossible to tell given all the variables.
Based on what I've seen, almost none of that matters with regards to how often dancers are *asked*, except that it might happen even more often in no extras clubs.
If a club is known for common and relatively inexpensive ITC sex, then there's little incentive for OTC requests except for convenience or the hope of more privacy and maybe a slight discount.
On the other hand, in a club that has no tolerance for extras ITC, I would expect requests for OTC to be pretty common.
Now, whether or not those requests are *accepted* is a different question entirely.
But like anything she could have a week no one asked and then a shift it was every other guy
I've had a dude keep asking me for a $50 blowjob when he spent over $700 on dances with me where he didn't even get to grope me. Like I literally just cannot be bothered to be offended over stupid shit, it would really fuck up my money. I already sabotage my own money by getting pissed at dudes and not being patient with them lmfao- don't need to sabotage myself by pretending to be offended. It's like this is the strip club and you sell a fantasy. I'll be whatever the fuck you want me to be in that fantasy so long as the money keeps coming my way.
Manuel, I've had a shit ton of customers who would make me their project to try to convert OTC extras. Some though also literally just wanna hang out outside the club no funny biz nothing sexy. I really never understand what goes on in somebody's head, and there are all different types of people out there.
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