While I fully understand the Miss Universe (and Miss America) contests are not beauty pageants - they are merely an exercise in political correctness, there should at least be a minimum threshold of beauty so the event doesn’t turn into a complete farce.
My gawd, Miss Universe 2023 is ugly. I guess gone are the days shapely women signified attractiveness.
Skinny? Yes. Ugly? No.
and she's from texas!!!! you mean to tell me that out all of the hot girls they could have represent the state this is the one that won ms texas?
It is the Miss Universe contest. This year the girl from Kepler-17 won.
She's not ugly. She's not MY version of what I would think is Miss Universe. But she's not ugly.
She looks good to me! Congrats to Miss USA.
Petite Latina, but she’s not ugly.
She's not ugly.
Meant to type Filipina-American.
None of those links worked for me on neither edge or firefox.
Anyway I did my own search, sure she's not the hottest chick in the universe and several of the other contestants are more beautiful but she's not bad. Anyway these big name pageants are mainly populated by single girl versions of the stepford wives so you have to take that into account when considering winners.
"Having trouble linking the photo"
Are we really picking one of the worst photos that are online to try and prove a point? I haven't been able to see the photo you chose, but know how to google and she's not ugly.
I'm looking at her pics from the swimsuit competition, and she deserved the title. She's damned near perfect.
I once again won't be watching
She's nothing special.
Some photos on line aren’t bad but the link I tried to post from the pageant is horrible. She’s only attractive if you are into flat chested teenage boys
#elbowstoopointy
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Let’s try this. If you find this attractive - then more power to you
#elbowstoopointy?
Well that just can't be tolerated!
Motor... maybe it's time to admit that posting images isn't your mutant power...
I Googled her and looked at several images. Honestly, beauty pageant women really aren't my thing, but she's not ugly. And I'm pretty sure for most guys here, if she started chatting them up in a bar they'd roll with it even if they knew they'd likely wind up with one less kidney before morning.
Everyone who gets photographed a lot has one (or even several) shitty images out there.
She's not my ideal girl but she is far from ugly. I'd give her at least an 8 in my book, but I could see how she could be a 10 to a lot of guys.
I "dated" an actual model from SA that was classical model skinny but looks a Hella lot better in the face than her.
It ended when her ex-marine combat veteran father found a card I gave her with money inside. I cut my losses and bailed. She ended up moving out of state and has some really class work out there these days. We still keep in touch via insta.
Just a preemptive strike so no one accuses me of being racist
I think Haley Orrantia from the Goldbergs is just about the sexist person on TV. VERY underrated
motorhead has found the hill he'd like to die on lol. Not even icee called you a racist on this one...
'It ended when her ex-marine combat veteran father found a card I gave her with money inside. I cut my losses and bailed.'
Pussy
Wow I saw her live and this girl has charisma
Lol OSU FTW
I've never thought beauty pageant winners are the hottest women around. They are attractive but in a generic sort of way. I felt the same way about high school cheerleaders when I was in high school. The prettiest girl in my high school was a friend of my sister. She was the daughter of a rich doctor who had married a beautiful woman and they produced her as their offspring. Our high school was made up of cliques and she was not part of the athlete-cheerleader clique and wouldn't have even been interested in being a cheerleader. Really pretty women know they are really pretty and don't need the validation they are from people they don't care about.
"Really pretty women know they are really pretty and don't need the validation they are from people they don't care about."
Or...something happened to them that messed up their self image. If you get one of those, take a bunch of pictures for your brag board, have your fun, wear a rubber and run. Run far. Run fast.
Oh yeah, it just hurts to look at her: tuscl.net
Those pointy elbows are just blue on black: instagram.com
In some of those IG shots, she looks a fair bit like one of the local PT's dancers. While they're both attractive, I don't consider either one of them to be "pretty".
Control C and then control V.
She’s fucking hot, thin for me if I had perfect standard (I don’t), but fucking hot. Is this where I’m supposed to make a donation of a racist comment?
she's hot.
A solid 7. Give her a participation medal.
Not great. Maybe with 20 more pounds on her!
If she were a stripper, I'd buy dances. She wouldn't be the hottest stripper on shift most days, but she's hot in my book. Solid 8 at least. I prefer a little more booty if I'm being a keyboard perfectionist, but I sure as shit wouldn't kick her out of bed. I'd say I'd hit on her if I saw her in a bar, but I probably wouldn't. She's clearly out of my league.
It might be time to start recognizing that your views on beauty aren't in line with the masses. First, a fucking Victoria Secret supermodel is too ugly and now Miss Universe doesn't meet your standards. It's not some political conspiracy, you just have different tastes than the masses. That's fine, it's cool, no judgement here. But it's not a far left conspiracy to promote body positivity or racial tolerance that got this girl the win. Not everything you don't agree with is.
Sure, I'd ask for a dance. Far from ugly.
The masses are poor and poorly educated. How could I have the same taste in women ......... a beauty pageant winner should be exceptional in every way and she is exceptional in none. If she is the best we can offer, its probably time for China to take over....
I think she’s beautiful in gammanu95’s photo!
I understand that her look might not be for everyone - but I didn’t think she was unattractive.
Her face is ok, her body is really good though. Reminds of my days from teen to mid 20s, when I was a petite "spinner" but had womanly hips, and small round perky boobs. At least my tits are still perky lol.
Certainly not unattractive, but I hope she finds out about the unlimited bread sticks at OG.
Not ugly by any stretch of the imagination. However, as the adage goes, different strokes for different folks. We're in America people.
Hey Nina you said you stopped dancing, right?
Best pic of miss universe. Republikkkan edition
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