Ever take a DNA test?
Icee Loco (asshole)
I'm a fucking loser
Wednesday, November 30, 2022 1:30 AM
I've taken a few.
My top match is
Sephardic jews from morocco
Iraqi jews
Egyptian
Greek
Spanish
Central American native american
My top match is
Sephardic jews from morocco
Iraqi jews
Egyptian
Greek
Spanish
Central American native american
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None of this soft ancestry shit that's poorly validated anyways and just meant to give your genetic data to communist China.
A family member gave me one of these kits for my birthday. I know a few doctors and career biologists and chatted with them about the implications of using the test. They all stated that they won't do it. Partly because the fidelity of the "ancestry" results is debatable. But the real reason is that there's not a lot of regulation on the safekeeping and use of the genetic data that's collected.
In the words (roughly) of one person I talked to "I need to see more lawsuits that set precedent and generate actual laws before I touch those things with a 10-foot pole." Because right now it's a bit spotty on what happens if this data makes its way to law enforcement, insurance companies, university studies, government research projects, and elsewhere.
There have also been a few rare cases where these tests have revealed the presence of the gene that essentially guarantees a horrible degenerative illness. I think that each person has to carefully consider whether or not they want to have that information. Though one can make the argument that knowing allows you to prepare, it's still no fun to get the results of your Ancestry test and find out "Hey, I'm 0.08 Neanterthal. Also, I'm going to be crippled before I'm 50."
So, I tossed my kit in the trash. For most people, I don't think that they'll experience any real harm, but I'm operating from a position of caution.
Also they are largely inaccurate. We're told "there's no such thing as race" (whether that's true or not) yet these tests can exactly pinpoint specific ethnic nationalities and localized geographic place origins down to small percentages of ancestry?
You can get foreign ones now. Like Chinese tests are a lot better for Chinese Americans. Coz they pinpoint the region of their ancestry. Or Israeli ones for Jewish people.
Ishmael is correct about the potential family upset aspect of some findings. If I had learned this as a child, I would have had lots of questions, as we were told our heritage was primarily Irish from both sides. Only as adults were we informed that our mother is an orphan of a Prussian immigrant.
At the same time, I had this conversation with a friend who disclosed that he was a paid sperm donor in college to make ends meet. He had decided long ago that he didn't want to be in touch with the children resulting from those donations.
Fast forward to the children of his cousins doing an Ancestry test, which automatically connects the dots to distant relatives. Along with the results, they also get contacted by several people from the area where he went to school who are actively looking for their birth father.
Fortunately, a few guys in the family went to the same school, so it's turned into a family drama as to the question of "who squirted". He still doesn't want to be in touch with his "donor children" and he'd strongly prefer to not disclose being a sperm donor to his entire family. But he has been painted into a corner by a technology and a service that he didn't sign up for.
Granted, the stakes for him are relatively low, but it shows how complex issues are being raised by these consumer-grade genetic tests.
These tests can open a can of worms.
Personally I wouldn't participate in that. It's not even accurate for that purpose. At most it will just match people with the most similar results. But if you've been in say a small town for a few generations. It's expected there's lots of relations down the line
I haven’t taken these tests yet but want to
Thankfully I never jerked off at a sperm bank, and I'm about 99% sure there are no "accidents" roaming around anywhere. And two times I was arrested were long before DNA was a thing, so as far as I know my DNA diagram is nowhere on file, and I plan to keep it that way.
In just a couple of decades, we've seen DNA technology in law enforcement go from almost impossible to use, due to the expense and limited lab availability, to routine and commonplace, where now every inmate is forcibly tested and every crime scene is examined for it. It's as common as fingerprint analysis. And its availability is so abundant that now it's being sold as a novelty to see if you're 0.5% Swahili or something.
I look at it in a similar way to the "ID scanner" discussion we've had multiple times. They want ID? I walk away. I'm not going to make it any easier to connect me with some fucked up event. I don't want to be asked any questions. I don't want to appear in court. So I sure as hell won't be making my DNA available to anyone who wants it.
I’d have to agree with every point made above.
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
Q: Ever take a DNA test?
A: NEVER, we know all our family ancestors in the Fatherland and beyond.
This DNA “technology” is just another scam perpetrated by people who want to make money out of other people’s ignorance, insecurities and racism.
I expect you to be familiar with Hans Christian Andersen's tale of “The Emperor's New Clothes”; published in 1837.
The story derives from the seventh of fifty cautionary tales in a 14th-century Spanish collection by the politician, soldier, and writer, Juan Manuel.
The original Spanish story, "A King and Three Imposters," featured a ruler (a king) and unscrupulous weavers who had fabricated a scam about invisible cloth.
Andersen's tale “adapted” for children is principally about vanity and pride, while Juan Manuel's story centered around illegitimate paternity.
In Juan Manuel's story, the clothes could only be seen by the true son of the man who was wearing them, so the king and his "sons" all pretend that they can see the non-existent clothes because confessing otherwise would prove that they are not of true royal descent.
There is one other notable difference.
In Andersen's tale, it takes the innocence of a child to point out the truth.
In Juan Manuel's story, it takes the innocence of a black spectator to point out the truth.
Because the black person would have had no claim to being the son of the King, there is nothing for him to lose in telling the truth.
For example, reference and giggles:
“There will never be a black king of England”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAxw0zB4v1…
~ Louis CK aka Louis Székely
~ White Privileged stand up comedian
~ Born Sep 12, 1967 Washington, D.C., U.S.
I also don't think someone using it to find birth parents is misuse.
I'm more concerned with having to show an ID to buy cold medicine or buy a drink than I am about a university using my dna in a study which I'd have to consent to
Of course its misuse if someones a sperm donor its all done consentually, bein a sperm donor doesnt mean you have to take care of people made from your sperm
I do think the test might have implications to say that Russians are Eurasian as in European plus a smidgen of middle eastern and smidgen of east Asian? Cuz some people who pull up as full Russian definitely look completely different than others who pull up as full some other type of European.
but the science nerd in me loves the research regarding mt-Eve and mt-MRCA
Some conflicting opinions but interesting reads
You also have ancient iranic groups like the scythians and sarmatians leaving a genetic substratum.
A lot of skilled German craftsmen migrated to eastern Europe after the wars with the Mongols coz the population was depleted. That's how a lot of jews entered Eastern Europe. But most were from Saxony
That shit you wrote almost makes sense cause I'm high as hell. You are a fucking madman dude.
LOL
really you’re a historical moron
And pick up a history book.
He came here out of left field as a chicano after his davids/dougster/txtittyfag/etc accounts but he's morphed into all fields because he can, it's the internet.
I think dna tests are great and the larger the databases get the more accurate results will be.
Russia, as the largest country in the world, has great ethnic diversity, and is a multinational state, home to over 193 ethnic groups..
So the people from those regions (from countries to towns) are not homogeneous, not all are “White” not “Eurasian”, Yellow not black or brown.
Ethnicity is sometimes used interchangeably with the term nationality, this of course is different from the concept of “different human races” (Black, Brown, White, Yellow, Red, etc etc etc)
The variation of skin color evolved as a response to human migration, local solar UV exposure, and the body’s need for vitamin D.
The physical and cultural variations on our groups have sometimes obscured the underlying similarity of all mankind.
This has often led to disastrous and unnecessary conflict and destruction.
We have behaved as though each of our societies belonged to a different species, in deadly competition one with another.
Despite the many variations that exist from region to region and society to society, everyone of the thousands of millions of human beings alive today shares an almost identical genetic inheritance.
It is UNDENIABLE that DNA Test Are Scams, Just Like Horoscope Readings and other superstitions.
There is only one race; the human race, the human species all the other differences are superficial.
The potential for good and evil occurs in every individual human being regardless of color, ethnicity, nationality or any other difference…
For example in the USA;
“The rich ruling class has used tribalism, a primitive caveman instinct, to their advantage since the beginning of time.
They use it to divide and conquer us.
They drive wedges between us peasants and make us fight each other, so we won’t rise up against our rulers and fight them.
You can observe the same old trick everywhere in America today: Red states and blue states are fighting.
Christians and Muslims are fighting. Men and women are fighting. Baby Boomers and Millennials are fighting. Black people and white people are fighting.
That doesn’t just happen all by itself. There are always voices instigating these fights.”
~ Oliver Markus Malloy, German journalist
“More like 0.1% of regular ass humans (the oligarchs, the so called founding fathers, the politicians, the religious leaders, the puppet presidents, the rich and powerful, the snake oil salesmen, the con artists etc etc) tricking the rest of us into fighting among ourselves while they rob us blind.”
~ SanchoRG, Texas
~ Joined Aug, 2017
I don't give a flying fuck if somebody has my DNA in a petri dish. What're they gonna do, create a clone army of 6'3 guys who like tits, whiskey, and gambling?
It DID eventually allow me to track down my dad's biological father's family. That was my ultimate goal once I started looking into things...the grandfather had already passed, but I got to speak with the woman he married after my grandmother and will probably meet up with her and my dad's other set of half-siblings my next time in Detroit.
And before she died, I was able to connect my grandmother with a cousin she grew up with but hadn't seen in like 75 years. That was pretty cool.
I'm hoping a couple connections I've made through it will get me access to the old estate in Northern Ireland when I eventually go there.
And there's a slight chance I'm a descendant of Robert the Bruce. I'm royalty, biatch!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_…
But keep trolling dumb bitches
Mexico and the US southwest. New Spain at the time. Was an attractive destination for those forced to convert to catholicism and were afraid of their Jewish roots being exposed. Coz they'd lose everything. Some secretly still practiced Judaism. It's a fascinating history
The history of the Jews in Mexico can be said to have begun in 1519 with the arrival of Conversos, often called Marranos or “Crypto-Jews,” referring to those Jews forcibly converted to Catholicism and that then became subject to the Spanish Inquisition.
You said the inquisition was from 1480 to 1530. It was from 1478 to 1834. You said jews arrived in Mexico in the 18th century. They were there as early as 1519.
Stfu senile bitch
As a result, Filipinos can look like a variety of cultures. I've been called Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, and even Native American.
It's only somewhat regional.
“What's the deal with the Filipino race? “
From Wiki
“The Philippines is inhabited by more than 182 ethnolinguistic groups, many of which are classified as "Indigenous Peoples" under the country's Indigenous Peoples' Rights Act of 1997. Traditionally-Muslim peoples from the southernmost island group of Mindanao are usually categorized together as Moro peoples, whether they are classified as Indigenous peoples or not. About 142 are classified as non-Muslim Indigenous People groups, and about 19 ethnolinguistic groups are classified as neither indigenous nor moro. Various migrant groups have also had a significant presence throughout the country's history.
Due to the past history of the Philippines since the Spanish colonial era, there are also some historical migrant heritage groups such as the Chinese Filipinos and Spanish Filipinos, both of whom intermixed with the above lowland Austronesian-speaking ethnic groups, which produced Filipino Mestizos.”
In other words, like the US, a lot of ethnicities comprise the Philippines.
First, Icee is being 100% truthful on this thread. He truthfully woke up and said “imma post some shit about DNA tests on TUSCL and everyone will get all worked up…especially Skifredo”. And what do you know? People are getting all worked up. Especially Skifredo.
Oh…you thought I was talking about his ancestry. Nobody gives a fuck about that because Icee is a character invented by a zebra.
Second, all y’all’s DNA is gonna tell you is that y’all are damn dirty apes.
Finally, I don’t need a DNA test to tell me that I’m a frickin’ lion. I look in the frickin’ mirror and what do I see? A frickin’ LION!!!
ROAR!!!
20fag I didn't misquote you. I quoted you exactly. Drew I have native American dna as well and I'm proud of my family history.
Stupid little bitch twat
You said the inquisition was from 1480 to 1530. It was from 1478 to 1834. You said jews arrived in Mexico in the 18th century. They were there as early as 1519.
fucked up little bitch cunt