How has TUSCL changed stripping ?
mark94
Arizona
It occurred to me that my SC habits are very different than before TUSCL.
For one, I scoured all the clubs, trying to find the best experiences. This was inefficient but also had an element of surprise and fun when you found a gem.
Also, I never quite knew what kind of experience I would have. For years, I was likely naive about what was on offer. Now, the possibilities are pretty clear ( sometimes too clear ) before I enter the club.
At a macro level, this may have had other affects. Customers, even out of town visitors, just go to the highest rated club. So do the better dancers.
Having this knowledge out there makes it more difficult for dancers who want to tease and give air dances. I think the general level of contact has grown over the years.
Also, Law Enforcement has access to the same information. That’s got to affect how they do their job.
For one, I scoured all the clubs, trying to find the best experiences. This was inefficient but also had an element of surprise and fun when you found a gem.
Also, I never quite knew what kind of experience I would have. For years, I was likely naive about what was on offer. Now, the possibilities are pretty clear ( sometimes too clear ) before I enter the club.
At a macro level, this may have had other affects. Customers, even out of town visitors, just go to the highest rated club. So do the better dancers.
Having this knowledge out there makes it more difficult for dancers who want to tease and give air dances. I think the general level of contact has grown over the years.
Also, Law Enforcement has access to the same information. That’s got to affect how they do their job.
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As far as the entire strip club industry goes, you'd have to broaden it to include more than just TUSCL. Because there's also the varying effects of Reddit, USASG, and other similar sites in the same space. Also, social media.
At that level, it's more of a mixed bag. Everyone (including the dancers) are more educated and prepared if they want to be. Sites like this also present both dancers and customers with opportunities to really jam themselves or each other up (as we've seen recently...). Our ongoing debate about connecting dancers by name to extras is a good example.
I will say that the Internet has removed some of the thrill of discovery that used to exist. At times it was pretty great to walk into a new club with no idea how it was going to go.
In a similar vein, I used to really like going to Blockbuster video, because I could browse the aisles and find some obscure movie that might be great or might be a dud. Taking that low-stakes risk was part of the experience I enjoyed. The internet has really put that experience in the past.
When my job involved heavier travel, I re-read to exhaustion any review that was a reasonable cab/Uber from where I was staying. I always made my decisions on descriptions rather than ratings. Lots of air dance places got good ratings for the hottest dancers, and last wanted was to end up at a "classy" joint that milked tourists dry.
But what TUSCL DID do is make strip clubs much more accessible. I truly believe that it, along with certain others sites, contributed to the growth of the industry between 2001 and 2008. Pre-2000, before high speed Internet became widely available, it was a real headache sourcing strip club intel. I lost track of how many times I'd arrive in a new area and have to use phone books, hotel concierges, cabbies (who always brought you to the tourist traps) and local adult newspapers to find the strip clubs. It sucked.
The review output has gone way up since founder turned releases up to the users, but unless one of the board regulars reviews a place I'm not that interested. Lots of homers have no idea how their local club stacks up to other regions. There is still plenty of value in the reviews, but I'll also look for my info other places because a picture is worth 1000 words.
There's also so much digging any one person is typically willing to do. Because founder decided to only show summaries of the last 18 months, there's a lot context that gets missed. But the boards fill in a lot of that, at least for now. When certain people go I think a lot of what's kept the boards relevant will go with them. A lot of the value I've gotten out of TUSCL (since I stopped needing to read reviews) is hearing from all of you about what things are like in your part of the country as time goes by.
The “make it rain” / party vibe that has influenced the industry in recent years has not come about because of TUSCL. Magic City - “the Holy Grail” of Atlanta strip clubs per Wiki averages about one review per year
Follies - the most popular Atlanta club on TUSCL is out of business
I haven’t been around for a while. Would you mind educating me about what sounds like a change?
I have yet to think of a good strip club rating system. The customer scoring system doesn't seem accurate to me. I find the total number of reviews for each strip club the best general guide but there are some clubs that got reviewed a lot several years ago which in past four or five years have declined a lot. Maybe a filtering system that would show the total number of reviews for each strip club in a city for the last five years would be the most accurate. I think it would be the most accurate for here in Indianapolis.
I think it’s wise to include others like Reddit, dancer’s resource, usasg etc…
I don't think it's had much impact on the industry other than given a term for cumming in your pants. But I myself am a much more efficient strip club patron because of this website. I don't spend near as much as I used to in order to get the activity that I want.
Last month, I stopped at Xplicit during the evening. There were around 15 dancers. There were 2 attractive dancers and the other dozen or so were unattractive, mostly overweight. I spent the evening with the 2 attractive dancers. Royce was an all natural blonde who has danced at most clubs in Phoenix during the last 8 years. Coco was an Asian who dances part time at Xplicit and works part time at a Massage Parlor about 10 minutes from this club. I did not spend any time or money on the unattractive dancers.
I did not write a review because I did not know how to rate the dancer quality. I am interested in what dancer rating the senior members on this site would give. Almost all clubs that I have been to during the last 5 years around the country, if there was more than 10 dancers, at least 1 would be attractive.
I stuck your question in its own thread. Thinking you'll get more eyes on it that way. https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=8145…
"I am interested in what dancer rating the senior members on this site would give."
I rate the average, based on my own tastes. If I'm in a club and every dancer except for one is a dog that's what I write.
I don’t think TUSCL has actually changed stripping.
^ I wholeheartedly agree with this. The TUSCL info is wrong occasionally, but I remember driving around looking for clubs only to find they were permanently closed, or not open that day, or otherwise not finding them. There is no arguing TUSCL's listings have made it easier to find clubs.
It's probably effected my clubbing habits a bit, but its hard to say how much of that is due to TUSCL and how much is just natural evolution resulting from experience and a change in my personal circumstances. As far as the industry as a whole, it's almost the same answer. Its hard to say how much internet sites or social media have effected it and how much is due to just cultural changes. Are people really buying bottles and making it rain just to flex on the gram? Or do they genuinely enjoy the experience, if if its just for the attention at the club itself, and it's popular now because people like it?
Again – hard to quantify how much of an impact TUSCL has had but I assume it’s a small impact at most except maybe in some specific cases of a particular club that happens to be popular w/ TUSCLers and that somehow served to tilt the club towards TUSCL-type mileage/expectations – but again I think it’s often other factors (ownership; management; loosened/less-enforced local-ordinances; etc) – as well as clubs that have gotten a Cubana-invasion where in many cases the Cubanas have made mileage higher to much-higher.
On a personal PL-level; I def became a more hardcore SCer after I joined TUSCL and my PL-eyes were more-opened to the possibilities – also good-chance Follies would have never gotten-on-my-radar if it wasn’t for TUSCL and more specifically b/c of @shadowcat (as well as good-chance other out-of-area clubs that I’ve enjoyed would have not gotten on my radar if it wasn’t for TUSCL - e.g. the old “Inner Room” in Cocoa Beach etc etc).
TUSCL has been a great help in finding clubs *I* like; but also helping me not waste time and $$$ over and over again in clubs that were not a good fit – if it wasn’t for TUSCL I doubt I would have clubbed as much as I did in the last-few-years and bit-higher-chance I may have given up the hobby earlier b/c lack-of-info may have led to “the juice not being worth the squeeze” (i.e. many guys have given up early-on b/c they’ve hit shitty or poor ROI clubs; etc).
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Personally, I think I’m mostly unaffected by tuscl. I have only found myself in a club review, that wasn’t from somebody I met up with on purpose, one time. But at two Phoenix clubs I do remember meeting people and judging by how they were talking I really wanted to question their online activity, but refrained. I think there’s only a handful of times I meet somebody at a club and wonder about their online activity. But even at some tuscl popular clubs—like Baby Dolls in Dallas, that place is large enough that a dancer can fly under the radar just fine.
The reviews on the site have also improved massively in the last few years because of the vote system. At this point there is just nothing else out there with this amount of content on strip clubs. Buck stops here.
On the other hand, if it weren’t for TUSCL, I probably wouldn’t have even known 4 of those clubs existed…
By reading the raviews it’s convinced me to sometimes not even leave my hotel and skip going to clubs because they are raviewed so poorly. Then in the opposite case it’s had me travel out of my way - sometimes WAY out of my way to check out specific clubs because they were raviewed so favorably.
Notably if it weren’t for TUSCL I would have never known the strip club scene in PHX is better than Las Vegas. Or that Detroit is the best strip club city in the entire Midwest. These are things you typically don’t know without a little help.
One of the numerous examples I'm talking about is a club formerly known as the Hideaway (now Mystique) in Stamford CT. I used to travel to that small city often for work, but for years never knew that it even existed. Then, when I first learned of its existence on a very early version of TUSCL during the dial up days in the late 90s, I still couldn't find the place to save my life. It was buried in the back of an industrial park that itself was hard to find and nowhere near downtown.
Finally, as the TUSCL data improved and mapping technology became common, I was finally able to locate the fucking club. I had a printed set of directions from Mapquest which got me there, after a lot of twists and wrong turns, lol. The widespread adoption of GPS and the addition of mapping features in TUSCL have since made finding clubs even easier.
As a side note, I do have to give a bit of credit also to a competing site. Notwithstanding how useless the site is from an intel standpoint, it had its location search tech together long before TUSCL did. When I traveled during that period of time, I used to first run a zip code location search on that site for all the clubs in the area and then use TUSCL for more specific intel. I'm glad that Founder finally got the mapping tech up and running so I can use one site for everything.
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I believe this. Reading reviews for clubs I go to. A lot of them are fake.
And many more are guys who were marks describing their ex0eriences as if they were the norm.
That in turn makes me weary of the quality of reviews overall.
Like I've seen very busy clubs not get reviews in Years while closed clubs keep getting new fake reviews. Things like that.
It surprises no one that you and the clubs you go to are fake, just like your whole persona, and everything you post, we don't expect much from you, and you still manage to underachieve.
I would assume that some dancers use TUSCL to a) identify clubs that match their personal values (e.g., clientele, mileage expectations) and b) to understand the expectations of male customers.
I did click on the stripper web link.... Is that site still activ?. Most of the content, including the reviews of specific clubs, seem to be out of date, by a decade or more.
Oh yes – GPS was a godsend – certain clubs are in industrial-areas or o/w hard-to-find especially at night – pre-GPS sometimes one would have to give up on a club b/c one couldn’t find it; or one would have to do a dry-run in the daylight to make sure one could find it when they visited at night – and of course; GPS feels indispensable when in a different/unknown city – I would’ve had a hell of a tough-time finding clubs in ATL when I visited there pre-Covid especially since I usually visited multiple clubs in one trip that were pretty-spread-out over metro-Atlanta.
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