It was me. (An open letter to Founder)
Tetradon
I'll act nicer if you'll act smarter.
I'm pretty sure it was my message to Founder, asking him why shit like SJG's satanic rape fantasy was tolerated here, that triggered the temporary demise of the comment section.
Look, I appreciate the lightly moderated nature of this place, but the fact is it's never been absolute. Icee got banned for making an explicit threat against Mitch McConnell. CJ got banned for explicitly accusing Donald Trump of being an Epstein pedophile. Another post giving Juice's (RIP) name got taken down too.
Given that, why was it one complaint about SJG, who has graphically threatened other board members, and posted explicit rape fantasies that he intends to act out, that prompted this overreaction?
You can squash threads and users like that in a targeted fashion. You've done so before. I think doing so against material that could get us subpoenaed when he finally goes off the deep end does us all a service.
Founder, is he your crazy cousin that you have a soft spot for? Or do you just have such pity on someone who spends 30 plus hours a week here? At this point, I think you owe us an explanation. Why does he get special privileges?
I know trolls come back the same day they get banned. The aforementioned did so. But it establishes that some behavior is clearly out of bounds.
Shit, you could block me for this message, even though I have a history of writing great reviews and never threatening anyone here. Your prerogative. But I guarantee you that within a few posts he'll validate every comment I made above.
(SJG, you're a creepy ass motherfucker and a sex crime waiting to happen. Get help.)
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I don’t understand why people would participate in a free speech forum, only to demand cancellation of people they don’t agree with. Odd. Ironic. Hypocritical. Something like that.
Hell, Founder even gave us the ability to personally block people we don’t want to hear from. That’s further than a lot of open forums would go to.
I’ve blocked a few people, including SJG. I assume some people have blocked me. No worries.
Look what your facing without me!! - is why he says with his power
I like this forums. Without him it wouldn't be possible. But yeah see men in power leads to showing their prowess. There's no real fix. Just containing VS socialism VS authoramisn.
There are posters I really enjoy here and one I r two that I don't like. I police this myself by not reading what they write. I don't think it's a good look to act like a male "Karen", and ask for someone to be canceled.
This board is founder's playground. Not a "free speech" place (wtf, first amendment says "Congress shall make no law"...) And "cancel culture" has nothing to do with any of this.
I pointed out examples where someone has been blocked and Founder's blatant double standards.
Why is one person allowed to operate by a different set of rules? Founder can do what he damn well pleases but why? That's what I'm curious about.
I just don't want to get called in for questioning, and asked why I didn't alert authorities earlier, when SJG tries to sexually "induct" a small child or animal into the "organization."
https://youtu.be/Too-D28Oj74
I agree that SJG has bizarre and frightening fantasies about women. I only hope they remain as fantasy.
We should also have the freedom to ask why a website that positions itself to be welcoming to dancers and sex workers provides a green light to members who post HIV+ rape fantasy (https://tuscl.net/member.php?id=571595) as well as Satanic rape fantasy (https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=8092…).
And, while we're on the topic of Satan, why does a dancer who posts an image of Jesus-as-stripper get scolded (https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=11806) for being "extremely offensive" while the previously mentioned thread on Satanic rape fantasy gets no reaction at all?
And, it's also fair game to ask why one member is allowed to take over another user's thread for over a year and 400 posts (even when it has been explained to them over and over again that they only need to start their own thread on the topic and it will cease to negatively impact the other user)? All of which is blithely ignored by that hijacker (https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7681…).
And if the answer to all of those questions is "Because FU, it's my website.", then that's perfectly valid. But let's stop pretending that it has anything to do with rights, free speech, or cancel culture.
Personal opinion ... Giving TUSCL members some internal control over their own user experiences here is not an assault on free speech. Someone should be able to *truly* block another user (as far as I'm concerned, the current tool is broken). And users should be able to close commenting on the threads they create.
It seems unlikely to me that Founder would tolerate members miscoding html to close threads, but get so bent by your DM that he shut down the board temporarily. But who knows. There was no accompanying message.
Maybe to avoid the inevitable ADA law suit SJG would surely file if he was banned, Founder is just going to shut down the board Monday through Saturday from 1 to 7 PST with the above banner. (Except library Holidays of course.) 😈
I'll admit to not knowing what the big deal is, because I have him blocked. I have no rape fantasy clutter on my login because I have chosen not to. Stupid little trolls will not kill this website, but moderation sure as hell will.
I found it contradictory that Juice’s post was deleted but when Alucard passed away several years ago, one member chose to post his full name and personal details and nothing happened.
I’m not standing up for Alucard - he was a weird ass dude with some odd takes on life, but it seems strange that news of the two deaths were handled differently. One way for a member that was “mostly” liked and one for a member “mostly” disliked
It's about how many rape fantasies need to get posted before, when he finally kidnaps and rapes someone, we all get subpoenaed and slimed for not alerting authorities.
See the examples above. This has never been an unmoderated board.
I really want to know. What makes SJG special and not unanswerable for his repeat misconduct?
Are they really cousins?
Does SJG have pictures of Founder in a compromising position?
Inquiring minds want to know.
All of them combined have resulted in less dissension, spam, and arguing than the creep has fueled here.
I've said it before, it's Founders board, he does what he wants with it, he's a businessman and it's his business. But this board specifically exists as a location to gather reviews and other information about strip clubs. The life blood of this forum is the reviews and sharing of club information through those reviews, the creep has never contributed to any of that.
Instead what we get from him is threads on starting a fiat, obscure subjects that only he posts about and comments on with no interests from others.
All of us have either pay or post reviews to get valid memberships here.
Technically it's not my business but I'd really like to know why the creep was originally given VIP access when he has not met the criteria of VIP membership and now has verified membership even though I'm 99.9 percent positive that he didn't go through the process to verify himself?
What makes a poster that is the root cause of so much off topic spam qualified to be verified or a VIP?
Why is a poster that is the root cause of so much dissension and flame wars qualified to be verified or a VIP?
Why him and only him?
Btw- I believe in Satan about as much as Santa
I can’t speak from a position of knowledge, about SJG. But, is it better to allow him to fantasize here uncensored - as it remains fantasy? Pushing him to become angry at being unable to post graphic depictions of rape fantasies could have a worse outcome?
I wonder if SJG has threatened Founder with a bizarre lawsuit if he is censored? SJG has a lot of free time to create documents and do research on this type of topic.
@drewcarey, that is what happened. That is what you would see if you tried to look at the general discussions of the site or try to read any individual threads. Though oddly, if you went over to individual sub forums (front room, politics, etc), you could view thread titles and even create your own thread. I created one yesterday while the discussions were down just to test it out.
And then later on, I received a PM and I couldn’t respond to it until earlier this morning.
It’s a soap opera on here. 🍿
You on the other hand might want to ask yourself why everyone here hates you.
He has some decent Vegas knowledge and unlike some people here, familiarity with the strip club culture we all know and love.
But he's a pimping, pandering, lying, woman beating, manipulating, drug addicting, thieving prick. Never forget that part.
i logged off, as i have sjg on ignore, just to read what kind of satanic drivel everyone here was referring to. my first reaction after reading the first few paragraphs was laughter, followed up by holy shit - this guy is a real sick demented fuck. the part inside me that gives that psycho a little benefit of doubt is maybe my type of reaction is what he is shooting for.
i don't believe he should be censored though for his sick shit. just consider his writing sample as an entry submission to an imaginary magazine like subversive perverted penthouse letters magazine.
Not censored. Just deleted so we don't all get subpoenaed when this board becomes Exhibit A in a kidnapping and rape case. Otherwise I don't give a shit. I've seen more graphic shit elsewhere.
Sorry I left out a few of the reasons you're a scumbag. Been a long day.
Founder of course has a right to to prioritize any issue he deems that’s the biggest priority and address it as he sees fit. But if blocking one dancer from posting something “very offensive” is what the priority is…then I’ll just put out my personal opinion that this is a very very weird hill to die on.
Also, I will put out a general statement on the board that since (general) site security issues doesn’t seem to be a priority…
I want everyone on this site to know that I will personally be going through my PMs and deleting every single conversation that has anything that might even be remotely bad for it to be out there. Whether because the information is doxxing, or just simply that if somebody hasn’t put something out on the board, it might be personal in some other way and better not read. I don’t have the power to make the site more secure, but I will do my part that if anything ever DOES happen (and hopefully it never does happen), then I can feel satisfied knowing that I did my part. Especially because some of the cool people I’ve met in real life on here sometimes feel comfortable writing things in PMs that they wouldn’t want to do on the board.
I would encourage anybody else to do the same with their own personal conversations, with anybody else.
I always try to remember that founder sold me lifetime VIP membership for very cheap (probably regrets it now), and gives it away for very small contributions. I'm not a charity case, and if anyone else is, go see what they can do for you at The Salvation Army. We can't expect founder to be shelling out (or shell out more than he may already be) to keep this site up. The very, very worst moderator is one who volunteers to do it. You'd need a paid moderator. Or founder would have to pay the opportunity cost of using his own time to moderate. And even with a good moderator, there's a lot of hard judgement calls. So, I'll say it again, use the ignore button.
TUSCL isn't dying.
We are not all going to be subpoenaed because a member attacks someone.
Less than a fraction of a fraction of the posts on here are based on reality.
Also: one more complaint. (This one is minor) Deleting PM threads is a real pain on an iPhone. 😞 If I’m not angling my thumb juuuust right it keeps wanting to take me to people’s profiles. Grooooan
He has insulted mormons, Christianity, conservatives.
Also he was advising people to discuss specifics sexual acts with escorts before meeting them in person or paying. Something that could land someone in serious trouble. He thought it was funny trolling, and would be funny to get tricks in trouble.
His advice to a woman in need of financial help was to scam and finesse tricks or sell weed. He had the same advice to another user who needed help making money.
He has also insulted tricks, strip club clients in general, landlords and business owners, saying people in those categories deserve to be robbed because of their disposable wealth.
The messages are fine to remove.
I respect your safety!
Skibum stop threatening me. But give me your location in Vegas and metro will come out to meet you.
Bte go troll someone else
Why is a poster that is the root cause of so much dissension and flame wars qualified to be verified or a VIP?
Why him and only him?”
Ooh yeah, I’ll go ahead and clear the air on that one. SJG was given VIP access last year for a month in October/November because I specifically PM’d founder and asked him that if I paid for one month’s worth of VIP if he can grant it to SJG. And that was what happened. It was right around when a bunch of people were calling for him to be banned (more than usual anyways), so I thought it would interesting to see how people would react. And people’s reactions were indeed hilarious. Oddly enough during that time period SJG was more calm and posting less, erm, inflammatory posts at that time. And that was despite the fact that I may or may not have PM’ed him encouraging him to post comments on people’s reviews to enlighten them about front room makeout sessions. But that didn’t happen. I love doing things just to see how people react and I have no regrets. Fun times.
Satanism has always been used to mock Christianity. Before Christianity what we call Satanism did not exist, or at least not in that form.
And you two, you keep thinking your should decide who gets to post, well you can just go fuck yourselves.
SJG
Decide who gets to post? No. Just not shit that's going to land the site and members in legal hot water. Just like he did to Icee and CJ over a lot fewer and less graphic threats.
Founder should be conscious of this too, when you actually act out one of these and this site makes the news.
SJG
I can find a million for you.
SJG
School of Rock AllStars perform "Highway Star" by Deep Purple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oGjZRe1…
Everyone here who can access the internet at night is better at life than you.
One has to consider that they probably have nothing better to do.
SJG
School of Rock AllStars perform "Highway Star" by Deep Purple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oGjZRe1…
Lulz
Worthless piece of dog doo to step in.
SJG
School of Rock AllStars perform "Highway Star" by Deep Purple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oGjZRe1…
Have fun with your delusions of adequacy.
SJG
School of Rock AllStars perform "Highway Star" by Deep Purple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oGjZRe1…
Go threaten some other upstanding board members. Convince yourself you're important.
SJG
She is likely smarter than all of us. She’s definitely better looking in heels!
One way or another they will get to her. If she goes all porcupine on one and brushes him off, he just reports back, telling all that he found out to help the next guy. Sooner or later she will yield. And then soon she'll be getting measured for her sex slave uniforms.
And none of it will involve me either.
SJG
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=7137
Kansas City School of Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQp1RJtC…
SJG
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=7137
Kansas City School of Rock
What is Hip
https://youtu.be/eQp1RJtCn2U?t=4321
Looking to supplement your goats with pigs now?
You really are a creepy fuck!
A bunch of people thought that rape fantasy shouldn't be on a website that positions itself as being welcoming to dancers and said so (others disagreed). You'll find that in this thread and under SJG's rape fantasy thread.
Tetradon PMed founder asking why SJG gets to behave in ways that equal or exceed behavior that has gotten other members here banned. Contents of that PM reproduced by Tetradon at the top of this thread.
Founder responded by shutting down the discussion for a full night stating "This is what censorship looks like." ( https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=11978 ) But we still don't know why SJG occupies a position of privilege (it's certainly not due to his relevance or experience with strip clubs...).
Nicespice noted that she got scolded by founder for posting this "extremely offensive" image ( https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=11806 ), which seemed weird seeing as SJG's Satanic rape fantasy got no scolding or any reaction at all from founder.
Future prediction: At some point, SJG will threaten to hurt or kill you ... again. And he won't suffer any negative consequences (or even be scolded) for it.
Welcome back, Waffle ... Shwaffle ... whatever. I hope you're well.
^ sounds like you are threatening to ass rape Icee, and you say I am gay with no evidence. Keep making gay comments and building the evidence that you are a faggot there boy
SJG might take a report to Crime Stoppers.
Sjg posts fantasies. Skibum makes direct threats. Warrior posts about underage girls. Others engage in harassment. Others post hate speech.
So says Mr "ban anyone who says a girl is a ROB" and "ban right wingers."
Lulz.
Tetradon. This is a strip club site. You can post homophobic and transphobic rants and pro neonazi bs elsewhere.
Skibitch. You're an example of why we need to expand mental health services
20fag. In the words of my people. You're a donkey talking wbout ears
Skibutch you're threatening to hack metro computers... you realize screenshots of your threats are included in the report. I can login and keep adding more evidence
Your "opposition" to anything I say concerns me less than, and is about as profound as, the contents of my cat's litter box.
I still say we have to shut of that HTML security threat in TUSL. That could destroy TUSCL, it is a weapon of mass destruction, and it has been used twice already.
Not sure how easy it is for Founder to make HTML safe. Maybe he should just shut it off.
Maybe he should make it a privilege that you don't get until like 1 month of membership and 200 posts. But then if you use it to try and make security attacks, then it is suspended for 1 year.
On most boards that allow HTML there are problems created which the Admins have to undo.
My .02
SJG
My 2 cents.
20fag it's a Sephardic saying.
Skibitch keep up the cyber harassment it's all being noted
First off, lol. But how can anyone can be confused because valued contributors have been wagging their tongues for days about it?
I don't hate trans people. I'm acknowledging biological reality. To do otherwise is ignorant.
Science doesn't care about your feelings about it.
Hope you've got better than that weak sauce.
First off you aren’t Sephardic, your are a fabulist
(That’s an euphemism for liar in case you are unaware of the etymology)
Secondly cite a source that shows your weirdo euphemism
Thirdly go fuck your demented cosplay pimp self!
Tetradon you're a weirdo obsessed with bashing trannies on a strip club site
Drewcary you're a dumbass who thinks calling dancers trannies in your reviews makes you clever. It doesnt
Skibutch I already filed a police report. Keep it up
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Damn this is better than the circus
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Dispatcher: what is this person's name?
I don't know it's an anonymous message board.
Dispatcher: he threatened to assault you?
Well he threatened to assault my username.
Dispatcher: so he doesn't actually know who you are?
No.
Dispatcher: okay we will serve him in February.
If you engage in any of the activities you talk about on here, you’re taking a big risk even going to the cops. Theres a reason drug dealers and hoes avoid the cops and avoid snitching even if someone robs them or talks trash or etc.
Anybody can file a police report. The risk for you is if you’re starting IRL stuff with someone off tuscl, theyll know about all your illicit activities. Youve admitted to drug dealing, pimping and robbing.
Youve stated you support people burning down businesses, homes of landlords, police stations, government buildings, restaurants etc.
Also its laughably hypocritical to insult cops, call them racist pigs and white supremacists then run to them as soon as someone says stuff to you online. Clearly you don’t believe cops are racist white supremacists otherwise you wouldnt be dealing with them in response to something a white guy said online.
ilbbaicnl, if you want to organize a bum fight we should first dig a pit and then have knives to pass out.
SJG
"He tried boxing. I fought dirty af and pepper sprayed him and beat his ass. Pulled his pants down and pepper sprayed his dick and balls. Lmfao"
I don’t think I ever did this. Where did I do that?
Spotted in the wild: Trans Stripper
March 12, 2022
Icee also said "Cacaplop why do you talk to yourself with your different troll profiles?"
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=8084…
But, but, Icee, the only profile on that review making a comment along the lines of what you're saying here is Eltriste.
I thought you weren't Eltriste ... or someone who maintains troll profiles?
https://tuscl.net/member.php?id=748304
Drew. I posted a link to your review.
LULZ
@icee: I think you have difficulty separating what you would *like* to be the truth from what is the truth. This makes me question some of the other things you say here.
I don't believe he does. He says whatever, in his estimation, will create the most drama and turmoil. That it is patently untrue is either not important or a useful lever to get more drama and attention.
Schrödinger's cat arose out of his musings on the peculiarities of EPR entanglement. Schrödinger wanted to show how Bohr's notion that nothing is fixed until it is measured could lead to logical absurdity if we imagined blowing entanglement up to everyday size.
1. Paying women for sex is a show of generosity, not paying them for sex
2. Blah blah my nonexistent organization
3. (insert sophomoric leftist politics)
I'm pretty sure he has blackmail info on Founder, who lets him get away with shit other don't.
Keep denying you wrote this....its on your profile.
Spotted in the wild: Trans Stripper
March 12, 2022
https://tuscl.net/review.php?id=383651
Stuff happens. I was at a club in New Jersey the other week and the dancer I wanted to get was being a bitch (it was Johnny A's and they had a strong preference for regulars and locals) but there was another dancer who caught my eye. She was a little butch but very pretty. You know, like fitness model hot but not a body builder.
Anyhow, her voice sounded a little off and her head massage I thought could've popped my melon halfway through song one. But she gave a great dance. Very sensual, and other than her voice, muscular arms, and man hands she was really hot lol. This is what happens when I give myself a 30 minute time limit! I actually let her do three dances. Then I may or may not have gone to another club down the street and railed a couple of dancers to reaffirm my dudeness.
<img style="transpose: rotate(-90deg)" src="https://tuscl.net/photos/620063f286fc9">
SJG
<img style="transpose: rotate(-0.25turn);" src="https://tuscl.net/photos/620063f286fc9">
SJG
<img style="transform: rotate(-0.25turn);" src="https://tuscl.net/photos/620063f286fc9">
SJG