25 thinks money entitles him to control strippers. Do you agree or disagree?

https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=58532

Hey biggdumbass it appears that this "guy" Iceydodo agrees. Per "his" thread above "he" posted the following:

"You're going to have to spend money. It will get her attention and make her notice you ITC. Don't get dances though. Learn shit like making flowers and hearts out of bills and give her a few hundred dollar bills just because. These bitches associate everything with money. Their self worth is linked to how much money they get for their looks. Affection, happiness, anything positive, its expressed with money. Its just how the stripper life is. These are bitches who are viewed as commodities so they act on it. She will accept everything. Whats different when she likes you is her reaction to it. She’s gon feel special and treat you like a king, start doing shit for you in return. Ie buy you groceries, clean your place, cook for you, do her hair and nails how you want them, dress like you want her to, shes going to want to share shit like that with you. But remember, this is a very temporary stage. The goal is to get her interested enough to get hooked, eventually she’ll be the one giving you money cos she’s just going to associate it with her liking you and that’s how she expresses it. The number one sign of you having won her over is her giving you money. When you get there, you know you’ve made it. There’s nothing like a hot bitch giving you a grand in pussy or perfume scented bills on the regular."

"She’s not happy with herself and never satisfied, she’s always looking for a quick fix and fast satisfaction. You have to be a few steps ahead of her and make sure you fulfil her needs for constant stimulation so that she has no reason to stray. The number one thing you need to do to fulfill her needs is to make her dependent on you for as much as possible. You basically have to manage her life. Its what these bitches crave. She doesn’t have any control in her life so she’s going to give it to you. If you don’t take control she’s gon be a loose cannon, spend all of her and your money on drugs and stupid shit, get all self destructive."

^^^ "He" basically says "he" caters to stripper hoes needs by paying them. "He" owns them when "he" pays them.

Amirite my niggette? Iceydodo believes the same as twentyfive. 🤭🤡

Key point...

"The number one thing you need to do to fulfill her needs is to make her dependent on you for as much as possible. You basically have to manage her life. Its what these bitches crave. She doesn’t have any control in her life so she’s going to give it to you. If you don’t take control she’s gon be a loose cannon, spend all of her and your money on drugs and stupid shit, get all self destructive."

TwoBits has definitely said some odd things over time, but IMHO this ain't one of them. He's right - she isn't entitled to his bank roll just because she showed up to the club. He certainly doesn't control her. If they don't agree on the particulars, she's free to walk away and work another customer at any time.

Rick you sound too young and lack experience. 20fag flashes his bankroll and the hoes know they better do as he says or they're out. When they give in. He's the type to storm off if they don't cater to his fantasies and indulge his delusions.

I think he should be going to aa meetings instead of the stripper hoe club

Icey you keep changing your name and now you put thid nonsense post. That quote you posted makes absolute sense. You’re paying so you choose what you pay for. Hes not forcing them to accept his demands. Do you not know how free market works? If you say you want x y z and you’ll pay for it, its not abusive.

Rick What else do you spend money on besides strippers and otc. Watches, jewelry?

So yall saying a stripper hoe is a thing you buy.

A normal person would say she's someone whom you pay for a service ie her time her company and in some cases the use of her bodily orifices .... she's under no obligation to give up her agency and act like your slave.

The customer is always right.

"Their self worth is linked to how much money they get for their looks. Affection, happiness, anything positive, its expressed with money. Its just how the stripper life is. These are bitches who are viewed as commodities so they act on it."

^^^@biggdumbass what are your thoughts on this post from Iceydodo?

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"These are bitches who are viewed as commodities so they act on it."

LULZ!

Not really. Would you argue about an omakase? Or with salt baes meat preparations? No. So why would you feel entitled to act like you own a person? Thqt kind of interaction is not normal

"So yall saying a stripper hoe is a thing you buy"

"These are bitches who are viewed as commodities so they act on it."

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Bubba, do you own that rolex on your profile? And your trolling has changed to changing your name and pic everyday? Comon

I certainly am not saying I own anyone, I am saying I can afford to spend a bunch of money, if you'd like me to spend it on you then you need to be available and do what I like does that clarify my remarks, Iceefag, just saying, now you're back on ignore cause your're boring.

No, you don't get to control them with money. You get to purchase whatever service they are offering at that price. That's it. You don't get to control the clerk at the grocery store or the Uber driver or the kid that cuts your grass. You exchange $ for X. That's all you get.

Cacaplop 25 isn't dougster third eye is.

BGSD3100.....EXACTLY! Trying to tell them what to do and not to do is abusive

"EXACTLY! Trying to tell them what to do and not to do is abusive"

"The number one thing you need to do to fulfill her needs is to make her dependent on you for as much as possible. You basically have to manage her life. Its what these bitches crave. She doesn’t have any control in her life so she’s going to give it to you."

^^^LMFAO preach, biggdumbass, PREACH!!! 🤭🤡

"Notice the pattern. Its about control...She doesn’t have any control in her life and wants you to fill that void."

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===> "20fag flashes his bankroll and the hoes know they better do as he says or they're out. When they give in. He's the type to storm off if they don't cater to his fantasies and indulge his delusions."

So? Flashing his bank roll doesn't deprive these girls of free will. They are grown ass women who choose whether to indulge him or not and are also free to walk away at any time. If simply using money to entice a girl to behave a certain way was a crime, most of us on this board would be found guilty.

Like you he coerces women in desperate situations. Coercing someone and saying they had a choice is a sign that you know what you do is wrong but just want to legitimize your actions

Telling a dancer you won't give her money unless she does what you want is not coercion. Physically threatening a dancer if she doesn't do what you want is coercion. Coercion would include acting in an angry belligerent manner where she feels physically threatened, not just explicit threats. She should feel like it is safe to walk away from you at any time if there is a disagreement on payment or service provided. I've had several of my regulars tell me they have to deal with customers who get angry if she doesn't do extras in or outside the club and I've seen it with my own eyes.

@Icey so no response to SLD who is posting shit that YOU SAID, that in essence agrees with all the shit you're now suddenly protesting against? Looks to me like you're saying it's ok when you do it, but not when someone else does?

Now all of a sudden you're saying the dancers that 25 interacts with are in desperate situations. You pulled that straight out of your ass. Dugan admitted that he looks for that, 25 said nothing of the sort. So it looks to me like you're assuming. If you're gonna do that, then are we safe to assume that the dancers you become interested in are also in desperate situations?

Docsavage, is cumming during the lapdance considered an extra youre supposed to pay for? If its just from the grinding. What about if they play with your willy but only through the clothes not directly touching it.

Icey you don’t understand what coercion is, its not taking advantage of someone. Many strippers are there because they need the money, so all strippers are coerced then?

===> "Coercing someone and saying they had a choice is a sign that you know what you do is wrong but just want to legitimize your actions"

Great, Icey reincarnated. Now enticing a girl with money = coercion. Would she be better off if she didn't have the money? Or is the assumption that TwoBits is supposed to give a stripper large sums of money for free? That confuses me given that she is there to work, is she not?

TP I directly quoted 25 who admits to acting like he owns a girl when he pays her.

And I'm not icee. I'm biggbubba and I'm even using my real picture. Unlike you

Enticing a girl jn desperate need of money is coercion

BigThirdEye, something is an extra if the dancer thinks it is an extra. The problem comes when the dancer assumes the customer already knows what is and isn't an extra to her without her telling him.

To take an example, here in Indianapolis breast touching and butt touching are considered part of a standard lap dance but touching her between the legs would be considered an extra by most dancers. Sometimes, though, I'll do a lap dance with a new dancer who gets angry if I touch her breasts because she would consider that an extra that requires her permission first. I've even had new girls think a no touch air dance is the standard lap dance and anything else is an extra and get angry at me if I touch them at all. What usually happens is that most customers quit after one lap dance with her and pick a different girl on their next visit. The new girls then realize if they want to successfully compete with the other dancers, they have to offer on a standard lap dance what the other girls are.

coercion - the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.

^^^I have yet to find anything posted or quoted in this thread that constitutes 'coercion'

biggdumbass is talking out of his ass. 🤭🤡

"If you're gonna do that, then are we safe to assume that the dancers you become interested in are also in desperate situations?"

^^^@TFP this is exactly why biggdumbass thinks that way. She's guilty of taking advantage and coercing desperate whores herself. biggdumbass is projecting, that's all. 🤭🤡

Shit!

===> "Enticing a girl jn desperate need of money is coercion"

By that definition, just about every employer in the world who has an employee who really needs the money is engaged in coercion. That's an interesting worldview.

Big Bubba seems to be real: a real pussy.

How much of a dick licking pussy do you have to be to come on here, antagonize every single member including the owner of this website, make up lies everyday and change your username every couple of months.

Everybody hates you, go away, fuck off, play in traffic.

Who dis fat white farang name Bubby?

Money talkie - no money walkie

He look too much like fatty to have boku dickie.

You bring money and you own my body. Mamisan give you good price. She give ticket for free buffet fatso. You want fudge packie - you pay more. You want fudge packie - with no fudge - you bring more money.

Are we good my n*gga?

Rick capitalism is a coercive system

I have no idea what you trolls are talking about

Ma n3gger! Yo take big fat bubbie an make monie for me? Me anus wan mo American dolla - I need organ wit fatso farang

Possibly a new low in tuscl discourse.

Iceydodo's stripper whisperer troll persona failed miserably so now she's devolved into this. It goes to show that she'll do anything for attention.

It's likely to go even lower. 🤷

I love it when a plan comes together, "Hannibal" Smith

Gee, Iceefag how's that trolling thing working out for you

What will be interesting is what's her next evolution now that she's declared 'biggbubba' as the "real" her.

The dumbass is stuck now. 🤭🤡

Your replies say a lot about yall.

You can't call anyone disagreeing or calling you out. Trolls. At your age you'd think you'd act more mature.

Can't usbold timers just get along.

Drew. How is this a low? I probably look like a lotbof yall

LMFAO doubling down as the "real" biggdumbass says a lot too.

It says needy attention whore despite all loss of respect and credibility (what little was there to begin with).

===> "Rick capitalism is a coercive system"

There's really no responding to such an extreme philosophical belief like that. If that's the case then almost all of us - or at least anyone who works for a living - is being "coerced" by someone.

This site is as useful as Icey. Should be killed off. Both.

The most loathsome strip club customers

Men who don't know the difference between a stripper and a hooker

Men for whom it's the only contact they ever get with a woman

Men who think spending money entitles them to act like the own her

Eltriste you type a lot like Iceydodo. Jes sayin'.

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