Realistic Pricing of Extras

Some of the stripper focused web sites seem like a cauldron of man bashing commentary and unrealistic advice on how to extract more money from customers. Is this a fair assessment?

I often wonder what the TUSCL web site looks like from the stripper perspective?

I'm an area where extras are prevalent (Providence, RI). Personally, I've never encountered a dancer who tried to charge more for head than FS. Around here, if you're paying for FS, then that pretty much always includes head.

$5,000 for FS in a strip club setting is pure fantasy, as far as I'm concerned. I know that there are ultra-high-end escorts that get flown out to Dubai, etc., who charge that kind of money, but that's a completely separate world from the average (or even above average) strip club setting. So, that to me sounds like internet posturing (we see a fair amount of that here...).

It's relatively rare to get FS for $200 around here, at least with a dancer who would generally be considered a solid 7+. I would say $300 is low(ish) end of the price range. $400 or so is about average. $500 to $600 is above average but not unreasonable. Anything over $600 is an exceptionally hot dancer with a good reputation ... or a guy who's not smart with his money.

I don't like to waste my money, but I'm also not a bargain-basement shopper. The price tag is not necessarily the sole deciding factor if I take a dancer to VIP or ask her about OTC. But, everyone has their own way of making choices. It's none of my business.

Same goes for you. Set the limits that make you comfortable and charge the rates that get the rent paid. New strippers and new customers all learn their lessons eventually.

I say: If they can get 5k, good for them. For the most part, they can’t. I get handys here in seattle and they cost $300 to the girl and $50 to the club, more or less. FS is going to cost you more like $500, but it is a wealthy city. Other regions may vary. This is all more costly than streetwalkers, and less costly than high end escorts. I never buy FS, but if I did I would be willing to pay $600 for something great, but would be on the lookout for something great at $200. Shaming another person for how they make money is a weak assed flex, and shows a lack of confidence. The market has whores, who compete for dances, and if you can’t make what you want with what you’ve got and what you’re willing to do, in the market you’re in, no amount of condescending to other SWs is going to change it. That said I do notice that some dancers will offer FS but not BJ. Which is a head scratcher to me.

Just think of how many girls are giving it away for free! These online strippers are not paying you bills, so you gotta do you. Me personally you start really losing me after 5, that's kind of my ceiling and I won't do that often, probably just once and never again. I think 3 is fair, and I'll keep coming back.

CMI: I’m assuming your numbers don’t Include the house fees? And that these are all ITC rates?

In my area, I would knock anywhere from $50 to $250 off those numbers, depending on the club, and the girl, of course.

I’ve been doing this stuff quite a while, and I have never had a girl offer FS for less than head. I have had a few that would do FS but not head, or vice versa, but never FS for less than head.

And yeah, $5,000 for anything is complete fantasy land.

Some of those who said they charge more for BJs backed it up stating condoms taste gross. And... well, that area usually smells funky regardless of showering before hand or not. It's this hairy area trapped and smoothed together in boxers or briefs, so there's going to be a little sweat or warmth. I get what theyr saying, but FS is a wee bit more intimate than BJs, so FS should have a higher fee.

“FS is a wee bit more intimate than BJs”

In my experience, that’s what they usually say about kissing.

As far as condums tasting gross, there is an easy solution to that.

doc... You are correct. I'd say my average ITC is $400-$450. But I have paid more for dancers who were hot and a lot of fun.

"it’s mind blowing that fssw goes for 500/hr.. y’all should be making 5k in 10 minutes fr"

That's the exact quote.

I just reread the post and mostsay they charge by the time and not service actually. But I think most are talking about OTC whereas ITC I have only ever heard of it being charged by the type of service.

CMI: Wow. I’m glad I live where I do. My arithmetic average here is probably $225. I had a fantastic VIP at what I think is your usual club for $250 a couple of years ago, but I also remember it was kind of a slow evening.

"I would charge more cuz it’s more effort. Just my opinion tho"

Another quote in regards to charging more for BJ than FS. And she's not lying. Some take 30 years to cum it seems like.

"it’s mind blowing that fssw goes for 500/hr.. y’all should be making 5k in 10 minutes”

That’s crazy talk. I only recently did my first $500 OTC. I’ve done a few since, but they have always include a couple of hours of dining and drinking first, like a sugar baby date. Unless inflation gets a lot worse, that my limit.

This is a tough one. It's really going to vary by city.

The girl should try to get as much as she can and shouldn't let the trick haggle. Realistically high end limits would be around $1000. Although I know girls who have been paid $2000 and up to $10,000 to take trips. But that's not a common thing.

I think now $300 is probably the average and better looking girls can get $500.

I've had girls in Vegas clubs offer sex for like $200. All nighters for $500 to $700. Lowest offer I had was Jack in the box and a ride home lulz.

But hoes working clubs will get hate coz they decrease everyone's earnings. The point of dancing is to make the most doing the least. Not doing the most for chump change.

BubbleYum, at least you can laugh all the way to the bank. As a grown up living in the real world, I’m sure you’re doing better than those newbies posting what they regard as wisdom.

"I'm assuming you're going to choose the girl who's willing to charge $200 so long as she isn't a hot mess and not sloppy drunk."

Maybe? There's a lot baked into that assumption. But I wouldn't know because I only go to strip clubs to drink at the bar. Or if I'm feeling frisky I'll tip at the stage.

I would agree with your rant. You can't really say someone should be charging x amount of money rather than y amount of money for FS because that is decided by supply and demand.

I started out dancing four years before pandemic stuff happened. In an area where I think most would consider higher mileage and services more readily available than most places nationwide. There was plenty of extras shaming back then too. Often by dancers who I suspected were engaging in xyz activities themselves, and I will only stick with saying suspect because in general I prefer to not ask and not tell.

If anything, I think the open shaming has lessened over the years? I think the first “mainstream” influence to lessen that is Jacq the Stripper, even if she has fallen out of favor in the past few years? Then even more mainstream, Cardi B blatantly rapping about allowing activities in her music. (Tho she def does price shaming in her songs while she’s at it) That’s just my vantage point though.

===> "I'm assuming you're going to choose the girl who's willing to charge $200 so long as she isn't a hot mess and not sloppy drunk."

For me a lot goes into the decision making, price honestly only being one factor. Yes I have a limit as to how far I'll go and how often I'll see a girl who is pushing my price limit, but I'm also long past the point of shopping in the deeply discounted bargain bin.

As far as what you're hearing in another venue, that's just posturing and noise. The market will always tell you what you should be charging - or not if you decide that market rates aren't worth it. Who cares about what some silly girls who likely don't really sell xyz think about anything?

Never less than $200 and never more than $500. If the chemistry is good and I'm having fun I really don't care where it falls in between. If it makes the dancer happy and we're having a good time I'm not gonna quibble over a couple hundred bucks. Sorry if that makes all the "negotiators" cringe. I've been known to surprise a lady when she says $200.... I come back with $250 or $300 followed up with let's go relax and take our time.

^ this…

For me fabulous nights like this don’t happen often so $100-200 more is not going to spoil the mood.

@long:” If it makes the dancer happy and we're having a good time I'm not gonna quibble over a couple hundred bucks.”

This is really right on. A lot of PLs don’t feel good unless they get a deal or haggle, but this completely misses the qualitative boost from a service worker who feels they are being fairly compensated.

FS is always more expensive than bjs.

You're not answering what a fair price is for a woman to fuck you. You're answering what's affordable to you.

I think Longball300 got it right.

If things are going well, it’s not worth it to negotiate hard to bring the price to a minimum.

In my view, a seasoned club customer knows the range at his regular club.

If a dancer quotes $1,500 at a low end club, where $400 is a very fair FS price, then it’s a simple no.

If a simple no causes her price to drop from $1,500 to $400, I’m not playing her game.

I’ve had dancers tell me - you can’t afford me. I’m fine with that and accept it as a no. But, I’m curious as to what the unaffordable rate might be - unless it’s her way of saying no.

I understand the concern over customers being willing to pay higher prices, and the possible chance it could push overall prices higher. I’m not sure there is enough communication that a few customer interactions would have a definite effect on overall pricing.

If dance prices were an exchange traded service, then overpaying could have a marginal effect on elevating overall dance prices. Since that’s not the case, it’s left as dancer word of mouth. I wouldn’t find this to be a concern. Many other factors are going to be part of a dancer’s rate.

The trend I've seen on extras conversation on stripper forums: in the bad old days, all extras girls were the devil and everyone bashed them. In the last few years there's been a reaction to that, to call that out as whoreocracy, slut shaming, delusional and hypocritical, etc. No stripper wants to be called those things, it undermines them, so now the smart ones are no longer extras shaming, but rather presenting this disingenuous "but they should be charging (some delusional amount)". This gets them back to their agenda: if strippers agree to hate all extras girls who don't charge $1000 for FS, well that means they hate 99% of strippers who do extras. Obviously, this has never been about ethics, etc., it's about the fact that some non-extras girls don't want to compete with girls who are giving customers what they actually want -- which I totally get, I wouldn't want to either. But "I don't want to compete, it's bad for my business" just isn't as hard hitting as "they are doing something unethical and we should all be furious and shame them"

Strippers generally loathe prostitutes working clubs coz they lower the amount of money going to legit dancers.

Germany has it so much better. I had $50 with Bella Poarch lookalike. 30 mins. I need to go back

It's to be expected that some dancer are going to try and make more $ by sabotaging other dancers in various ways. Saying "you're a nasty whore if you do xyz!" or "you're weak if you can't get 5 Gs for FS!" are a couple of strategies they use.

That said, it's not good for anyone if dancers get into desperate, race-to-the-bottom price wars with each other. In the long run it will mean the woman who think it makes sense to become a stripper will be similar to the ones who think it makes sense to become a street walker. The youngest dancers especially need to be careful not to ask for too little. A certain sum of money doesn't seem like so much once you get use to paying for your own rent/bills/groceries.

Could you guys check my thread related to this I was thinking of not doing anything with my atf dance wise, but now wondering if I should offer 2k, or even 3k on her for FS and toys and squirting!

Icey asks what is a fair price for a stripper to fuck me? She can pay me $200.00. That's fair, but life is not fair, so I pay her.

I wouldn't talk to women like that, ask them to rationalize their pricing. It isn't rational and it won't be.

Just pick the one you want and try to make something happen with her. Then try to get her outside the club to continue ASAP.

Coming out of a strip club, assume you'll be handing her money. If she likes you she will be reasonable. But don't like at it as fee for service, look at it as Mistress Maintenance.

SJG

Pre-covid the standard I paid at my regular club was 20 per timed five minutes (which I know was split 50/50 between the girl and the house). I'd usually pay for 4 dances up front and sometimes extend the time by 1 or 2 additional depending on how it's going. The girl would get a 70 tip regardless of time spent in the fuck room. So for a total of between 150 and 190 I'd get FS and whatever other freaky shit I wanted. Plus I always buy plenty of drinks, which I'm sure the girls get some commission for.

More recently it's been the same dance price, but I find myself tipping more like 100.

For OTC I'll pay for a cheap motel room and 200 to the girl and that's for no set period of time, but I keep it to about an hour. At the massage parlor it's 80 for the room including a clean-up in the shower room. 200 for the girl. There it's a timed 1 hour.

Some of the costs I've seen in this thread, even the lower ones, all seem high to me and some are outright ridiculous. I'm in central NJ, and the girls I go with may not be model quality, but if they weren't halfway decent I wouldn't be paying them. Not sure if these same girls might charge more for some new guy because I've known them all for quite a while and they get semi-regular business from me.

^ Better to soften her up in the front room, then get her into the back room for a block of time, then out the front door with her to continue on a mattress somewhere.

SJG

The Funk Brothers & Chaka Khan What's Going On youtube.com

Ain't No Mountain High Enough youtube.com

Instead of lowballing hookers. Ask yourselves what amount you'd be willing to suck a dick and get fucked for. Bet the amount would be higher....

^Fuck you boy. Pay what you want and myob. Only a cunt calls them hookers. Like to slap you like the bitch you are.

Personally I never look at any of this stuff as fee for service. It just doesn't make sense that way. The one I engage with is the girl I want to know. So money is just an intro to Mistress Maintenance. It is how she pays her bills.

SJG

Heh I am all for hos raising their prices. That being said if a ho insists on 5k for fs I'd imagine she would price herself out of the market and wouldnt sell that on a regular basis.

I agree "clean" strippers and prostitutes are viewed the same way by the general public.

I would also say the general public views girls allowing some touching as prostitutes.

Anyway I should stfu now lol

A girl should ALWAYS charge the most she can for the least amount of work. That's the hustle. Cheap hoes ruin it for everyone

Guys one dancer said she doesn do otc but also said you have to pay a lot Like 2k now im thinking if I should do it

Skibum you just owned Icee

Now Icee that comparison is invalid, you dont get to say what price you suck a dick and get fucked for, its men so it would be what price you eat pussy for and fuck pussu for. And you could say its pussu you normally dont want to suck and fuck, to be fair to the women who dont want to suck fuck a dick but do it for money.

I guess a lot of this is reality shock when the new girls get to find out the spectrum of activities (and prices received) is different between what their social media suggests and their first club actually provides. Not that different, in terms of reality bites, for Dancers than other first time work in the non SC world. The more experienced Dancers learn to tune it out for the most part; or indeed watch them learn or burn.

There are nuances too, from the Dancer's side which the newbies can miss. A successful $600 offer is not necessarily going to turn out safer or better longer term than $350 from a regular you get on with. I also hear sad stories too frequently about $1k or more a day paid trips gone wrong; and most of the cash spent getting the next flight back.

The lowball offer isn't generally the best. A higher volume of tricks isn't better than a few who pay more

"Ask yourselves what amount you'd be willing to suck a dick and get fucked for."

@Icee, once again you make no fucking sense. That's not a fair comparison because it involves GAY shit, which I understand doesn't make any difference to you, but most of us consider that much more repulsive than a girl getting fucked by a guy for money, even if the girl is a 20 year old smokeshow and the guy is a 60 year old disgusting slob.

The real question is how much we would charge to eat out some old woman's hairy wrinkled cunt. While that doesn't sound very appealing to me, I'd definitely do it for less than 5 grand. Probably for a thousand. And if I worked in a job where I could do it up to a dozen times a night for a bunch of old horny grandmas, I'd lower it to a couple hundred.

@mrO:"And if I worked in a job where I could do it up to a dozen times a night for a bunch of old horny grandmas, I'd lower it to a couple hundred."

I'd probably just try and pick up a pizza delivery job instead. HAHAH

Mister orange. It makes perfect sense. A hooker doesn't want to fuck tricks just as you probably don't want a man to fuck you up the ass. So I'm asking what a fair price would be.

Some here argue high volume low price is best. So is sucking 10 dicks for $50 better than sucking 1 dick for $500?

^^ extra anchovies!

Calling other dancers hoes when you're a dancer yourself is ugly. And calling dancers "clean" for not doing extras insinuates we're dirty. We're all the same, only making money doing slightly different things. You probably do some form of an extra without even realizing it. Do better, blah.

No it's reality. There's a difference between strippers and hoes working in strip clubs

No, you're an idiot wannabe pimp with no respect for women. You come here to get a rise out of other posters. You're opinion is and will always be invalid.

Also, I'm assuming you're a man. Based off of that, you don't get to speak on strippers calling other strippers hoes. You're just a customer who fantasizes about being a pimp.

Nah I just keep it real. My posts about strippers and hoes are true.

You're triggered coz I said hoes working in clubs are different from strippers. And they are. That's why the tension between them.

A hoe in a club is a bottom feeder with no game selling pussy.

A stripper does the least for the most and hustles

I really only have real hate for the hoes doing it in clubs where most of the girls don't do prostitution. It fucks shit up. If it is a club where prostitution is the name of the game, no hate. Like let's attack people on the net and talk sht about someone u dunno lol. f off.

I can hate and love who I want, darling.

"Instead of lowballing hookers. Ask yourselves what amount you'd be willing to suck a dick and get fucked for. Bet the amount would be higher...."

Yay! Icey is fantasizing about sucking dick!!!

Icey makes me so fucking HARD 😜

As I’ve often posted, strip-clubs are bizarro-world – SCs are more of a fringe business/entertainment, and for the most part only a small portion of the population are “into the SC thing” meaning they do it regularly either as a job or a custy – and as it has often been posted, TUSCLers are even a smaller % of the already small regular-SCer population – meaning there are obviously many variables at play to try and peg what extras are/should-be – it’s not as if there are commercials on TV telling you what SC prices are nor does Consumer Reports report on SCs  - one of the variables w.r.t. payment is the lack of general info especially if one is not a TUSCLer where many if not often most guys that hit a SC often don’t have a clue of what is a fair-going-rate.

Another variable is that regular-SCers/TUSCLers are often gonna be more sensitive to price b/c they are doing-it on a regular-basis and can’t afford, or don’t want to, to often be paying a premium or overpaying above the going-rate – it’s one thing to overpay once or twice a year on a SC trip vs when one is going once a month or more.

Having said this – I’d say “on average” a fair offer lies in b/w $300 and $500 – IMO one is not underpaying nor necessarily overpaying by a lot depending on the caliber of the club and the dancer – so I’d say that seems like a fair going-rate but of course there are many outliers for various reasons.

IME I would say I feel I’ve hardly ever felt I had a much better time by paying more of a premium – if anything I’ve felt there have been more times I’ve been underwhelmed when paying towards the higher end of the scale vs the lower end – I think that has something to do w/ dancer-entitlement but that’s just been my personal experience and obviously not a universal truism.

I think most dancers that feel extras should be super-expensive it’s b/c they don’t want to be extras-girls so for them it would take something along the lines of an offer they can’t refuse – dancers that are ok w/ extras seem to have a more realistic view of things and that while there may instances where there are custies paying a premium for extras they are def not the norm and extras-girls can’t really depend on these exceptions to make the living they want/need.

I think a lot of the girls posting the 5k either don't want to do the extras or think they are so dang hot you're lucky to be in their presence. For realist pricing a lot depends on the area you're working in, the clubs you're working in, and the competition. More run down clubs will mean you're not going to be able to charge near as much, higher end clubs probably will be able to ask more but will still be dependent on how many clubs I have a choice of as a customer and what your "friends" are charging. Strippers are there to make money dancing and taking off however much clothing is allowed, extras are not a guarantee. The girl only offers them for financial reasons and only she knows the state of her finances. I would never pretend to tell someone what to charge, I can only tell you yes or no if you quote a price. And realistically I'm not paying significantly more regardless of the girl.

^ you don't have to tell them what to charge the market is quite efficient, that will tell the dancers what to charge, If she seriously wants to earn she'll adjust, folks asking prices are very rarely the selling price.

There's not really "the" right price, there's a demand curve. Since every dancer is unique, they all have a personal demand curve. For emotional reasons and/or not wanting to get soreness or the itchy scratchies down der, it's common that FSSWs don't want to do the full monty more than once a day. So they will ask for a higher amount, since they aren't looking simply to maximize what they make.

Showed this thread to a stripper hoe last night.

She had some great thoughts on the topic.

You have no problem paying $15 for an omelet when you can get a dozen free range eggs for $2.79. So don't bitch about markups.

In south Florida strip clubs, I'd say typical pricing is 200-300 or so ITC. There's some lower end clubs where its probably 100-200 range, and some higher end clubs where it's more like 400-600. Some clubs it's not an option period.

I'd say that stripping/extras isn't a market here price fixing is likely to work. Strippers being upset at other strippers for charging too little isn't going to be any more effective than the customers who get upset about guys paying too much and trying to band together on one side or another. The dynamics at play here aren't new or entirely unique to this scenario, nor are they overly complex.

Its $600 and down to $50. if im paying in the high end i expect good hygien, nails/hair done, no bad breath or body odor. clean butt hole too. i prefer high end

^^For PhX^^^

@ilbb There's not really "the" right price, there's a demand curve.

Exactly I mean the reality is that no matter your wanted price either as a customer or a stripper, the market will only allow so much fluctuation for a “right” price. I’m not 100% on the soreness aspect, I mean it probably does play a part, but at the same time people want what they want and if you’re going to try and charge much above your standard they may just pass, you may have made your nightly “quota” but I mean what about that coming sucky day where you make virtually nothing because it’s slow af.

Realistic extra price? I can have sex with an average looking woman my own age for the cost of a dinner at Olive Garden, say $70. So I'm willing to pay a premium for younger and hotter.

$70 Olive Garden dinner X (dancer hotness level/average hotness level of 5)² X (my age/dancer age) = realistic extra price

A smoking hot 9/10 23-year-old is therefore $591.65. A 7/10 39-year-old is $211.08.

Now there are some variables. You get a discount of $100 if it's close to the end of the month, you're wearing a white polyester leisure suit, and you pretend to be a chemical engineer. On the other hand, there's a $3000 premium if you rode to the club on a Huffy bicycle, think dancers will fall in love with you if you can only get them to kiss you, and are trying to recruit them to be sex slaves for your organization.

I thought everyone knew it was a simple mathematic formula. Pretty sure I saw this the first time over on the pink site.

@Shy to give a concrete example, compare, say, Riley Reid and Jenna Fox. I'd have a strong preference for Janna, but I'm sure many would prefer Riley. I'd be down for it if Riley wanted $300. I'm guessing most of us would be down for it with either of them for $300. With Jenna I might be OK with $800, more than double. But yeah, $5,000, why, is she that Mars chick with 3 boobs?

Hey, Huffy bicycles are cool. Many a man's heart has been broken when he catches his SO in the garage, her head bobbing up and down on the kickstand.

Personally I don't look at any interactions with women as fee for service or as 'extras". And there is no reason to look at them this way.

Women in strip clubs are working for a living. Guys do give them money. And if you want them to engage with you, you have to give them money. But this does not mean that you should ever look at it as though money buys them.

SJG

X - Your Phone's Off The Hook - Live 1980 Rare Early Performance youtube.com

Capri Sun tuscl.net

The way some of you commodity people shows what you are

Generally strip club customers seem to commodify people, like the dancers, but like everyone too.

It takes work to learn how not to do this.

Commodifying people is the basis of Right Wing Politics.

SJG

All it takes to not commodify someone is to view them as a human being

^ Yes, but issues about sex and women are deeply rooted, so we have to do some careful self inventory.

SJG

The girl you're talking about from that FB group constantly talks nothing but trash on girls who don't charge 10k per minute because that's what she makes 🙄🙄 or makes men buy her YSL or whatever else she's spewing to start drama

A lot of girls charge too little coz they're desperate for cash. $500 is realistic for a hot girl. As is 1k otc

How is 1k otc reasonable especially as a regular going rate? Thats what pornstars with millions of fans charge. And even they arent fully booked at that rate. Some no name escorts charge that much, but it’s intentional because they want to be exclusive. And only get a few clients a month probably. People will get suspicious of someone charging $100 or less an hour. But $200 to $400 is what most people are looking to pay. The more you charge the less people will be willing to pay. You might easily get 3 people to pay you $350 each compared to one person willing to pay $1000. $1000 to $2000 is what insta models and pornstars with hundreds of thousands to millions of fans charge.

The hustle is doing the least for the most. Not to be a bargain pussy cum dump

Icee will give you $100 if you fuck him anally. $250 if you won't use a condom.

Is that how much your wife charges?

If a dancer asks for [X] amount for a service and gets zero or very few takers, then that's not a realistic amount for that city and/or club. She needs to lower her prices (or work on her approach) until she's getting enough takers to make it worthwhile to work a shift. Similarly, if a customer is offering [X] for a service and getting zero of very few takers, then that guy needs to offer more (or take a shower...) to have the sort of fun he wants with the caliber of dancer he wants.

===> "I really only have real hate for the hoes doing it in clubs where most of the girls don't do prostitution. It fucks shit up."

Bullshit. If you can't earn just because you're doing less than some others, you were never going to earn anyway. I hear this BS excuse time and again in dancer threads - "Wah wah the club was too dirty so I couldn't make money." Ah huh.

Time and again I've seen "clean" girls make money in "dirty" clubs. Not every guy wants to nut in a club and many will spread their spending out among different types of girls for different types of entertainment.

One of our local clubs, Wackos, is a prime example. There are a lot of Cuban girls working there and every single one of them fucks and sucks in the back. Yet on any given night half of the crew consists of Americans who by and large do not. As my favorite in the club has told me, she works there because she makes more money in the club than in any other club in J'ville, including the so-called "cleaner" clubs.

As I've always opined, in order to make decent money in a club, IMHO you have to have one or a combination of the following attributes: (1) Be very hot; (2) get guys off; and/or (3) be able to make connections with guys when interacting with them. If you don't have any of these advantages, you're fucked regardless of what the other girls are doing. Any complaining that a girl does on a discussion board about so-called "dirty" girls is really just scapegoating to avoid facing her own shortcomings.

Rick wouldn’t the making connections thing mostly work on gullible guys? I have seen “cleaner” dancers do this, and i just see it as fake manipulative behavior. Actually it can always be fake, even with extras girls trying to convince you, just like with any salesman/sales job. I ignore that factor and only focus on your first two. Certain girls if they look a certain way I might be okay getting one or two dances even if theres no extras. But the reason for it is im settling for a lapdance. Personality and connections can be faked

In SoCal nude extras clubs (& there are many), FS can usually be found for $100-140 plus VIP room charges. Some girls get more, based on looks, audacity, selling skills. If you can believe the internet (LOL), some guys say they pay like $500-600 plus the room for what they inevitably describe as “best ever” sex in a fuck closet; but in my opinion that’s crazy & reflects issues unique to those buyers (wealth, ego, conspicuous consumption, etc.). Some girls ask higher rates, but never heard of them getting even $1k in a club there’s just too much sex worker competition here. But hey, I’m fine with girls asking whatever they want; I can always say no, and they can’t pay rent & feed that child or habit with a stack of no. A willing buyer & seller will find the “right” price. Yay free markets.

Who the fuck revived this and why? I'm on a vacation from TUSCL and these emails about replies are annoying.

Miss Chloe, whoever you are, you are aware that there are numerous Facebook groups. I don't even remember which Facebook group I was referring to at the time.

BTE, shut the fuck up. I believe I've told you numerous times already that you are not welcome in any of my threads. Nobody has time for the amount of retardation you have.

^ Go to your settings here on TUSCL in the dashboard and turn off settings you won’t get any more notifications

I know. I'm too lazy though. 😂

I just wanted to bitch for the sake of bitching because BTE is involved.

There are places where everyone knows extras are common and you can find what you want. There 250-300 to the girl will frequently do it. In some cases maybe even 200. In others you’re trying to persuade a girl to do something that dancers aren’t open about even if it is sometimes available. Then the price is more unpredictable and dancers might get guys to pay what many of us would consider ridiculous.

At my favorite club dancers would know I can ask someone else. They have a pretty good idea what the other girls would do it for too. It’s hard Togo too high in that environment. The dancer has to determine what the most she can get is and then decide whether it’s worth it. That’s going to vary a lot.

"I'm on a vacation from TUSCL and these emails about replies are annoying."

Lol. I'm on a staycation at TUSCL and I'm gonna reply all the threads! So BubbleYum doesn't do the extras but supports those who do at reasonable prices?

BubbleYum is extracurriculars friendly at clubs that allow it. However, Bubbles is a low-key hater (despite saying she supports extras girls). BubbleYum hates r/Stripper, but Bubbles is all up in their shit causing chaos.

Bubbleyum is a male troll.

^^^LOL so says the troll account of Eltriste and Iceydodo 🤭🤡😂

“The girl should try to get as much as she can and shouldn't let the trick haggle. Realistically high end limits would be around $1000. Although I know girls who have been paid $2000 and up to $10,000 to take trips. But that's not a common thing.

I think now $300 is probably the average and better looking girls can get $500.

I've had girls in Vegas clubs offer sex for like $200. All nighters for $500 to $700. Lowest offer I had was Jack in the box and a ride home lulz.

But hoes working clubs will get hate coz they decrease everyone's earnings. The point of dancing is to make the most doing the least. Not doing the most for chump change.”

Icee, $1000 is not a realistic number for a no name dancer with no fame working a random strip club. Its what high end escorts charge, who intentionally want to restrict their number of clients and types of clients. Low volume escorts. And its what girls with millions of fans charge.

Dancers and escorts have an opportunity cost. If you want to book a dancer during her working hours, youll have to pay more than if you book her outside the working hours since she loses money if you book during working hours. With an escorts its even more the case since their hours are often 24/7. The ones being paid 2k or 10k are likely putting in lots of time. It would be tough to charge that for just one hour.
Some escorts offer exclusivity packages. One was like 300k per year for her to live with you, and give you all her time besides 8 hours of sleep, 2 hours free time daily.

The girls offering you $200 for sex or $500 for all nighters werent giving you a special discount. Those numbers are common. For a stripper, doing an all nighter doesnt have the same opportunity cost as it does for an escort. So you can often get $500 for an all nighter wheras an escort might want you to pay a discounted hourly rate for each hour. An escort might do $400 an hour then offer $2000 for an all nighter since she loses clients with the all nighter.

Escort prices always have an influence on what girls in clubs can charge. Those girls have no right to be hated they’re literally doing more work for more money. They don’t decrease anyones earnings. If one dancer isn’t willing to do as much as another one that’s her problem and her choice. Nobody is entitled for money for nothing and if your approach to dancing is doing the least for the most money that’s called being a scammer not a dancer. Scammers do the least for the most. You can commit all sorts of heinous acts and justify them under the logic of “well im just doing the least for the most amount of money, its all good im such a hustler”

One possible strategy is to start out offering a high rate with a lot of time. Like $500+ for a full hour. If the night is feeling slow, you could then say. since I like you, $300 for a half hour. If it turns out you're then selling lots and lots of half hours, you could raise it to $550 - 600 for an hour. You could offer 15 minutes for $200 on an especially slow night. You could include the extras that bug you the least for whatever the base price is for the amount of time, and upsell others if it's worth it.

If you watch escort vlogs, many will say it's not worth it to do less than an hour for a discounted rate. A lot of the fixed effort/costs for the scort are the same, even if the session is half as long. And you're putting up to twice the wear and tear on your lady parts. And the customers for full hours typically don't take as much out of you, even though they are paying more.

Cheap extras may result in expensive risky doc visits

Icee isn't going to be around much longer.

$440.00 is the price for a half hour room with BJ and Fs and dfk with one of the finest around here.