Brutal honesty in strip clubs
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To sort of springboard off Nice's last thread. I heard about a situation with one club where maybe the reviewers were getting a little too detailed with some of the physical descriptions of the lineup and the very dancers were not too thrilled reading about their very own not always too rosy picture being painted of themselves. The reviewers had to tone it down since.
It got me thinking. Would more brutal honesty be helpful in strip clubs? Me, not gonna lie I'm a huge fucking phony in strip clubs. ("Hey lookin' good tonight honey!" = "UGGGHHH!") And hey it goes both ways, what if customers heard it too? I personally don't think I'd like hearing it, I give off way too much material to absolutely eviscerate. I prefer the matrix version where I'm pretty much Burt Reynolds walking around. I'm taking that blue pill.
Do you think a strip club where we could all just openly speak our mind to avoid all the bullshit pretext would go over well? Is it helpful and important to read/hear/know the truth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgTGPPaS…
It got me thinking. Would more brutal honesty be helpful in strip clubs? Me, not gonna lie I'm a huge fucking phony in strip clubs. ("Hey lookin' good tonight honey!" = "UGGGHHH!") And hey it goes both ways, what if customers heard it too? I personally don't think I'd like hearing it, I give off way too much material to absolutely eviscerate. I prefer the matrix version where I'm pretty much Burt Reynolds walking around. I'm taking that blue pill.
Do you think a strip club where we could all just openly speak our mind to avoid all the bullshit pretext would go over well? Is it helpful and important to read/hear/know the truth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgTGPPaS…
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Still trying to work up the courage to ask an individual who I have ran into four times in three different clubs whether or not he has ever been on tuscl and/or stripclublist. That is, if I ever run into him again. (And I wouldn’t be surprised if I do…)
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Fake hair
Sure, strip clubs are a bastion of honesty
Something like 20 years ago, there was a wonderful topless club in an LA suburb (Bellflower) called "Fritz's That's It." A lot of top tier talent day and night, and even had a number of "B" movie Skinemax actresses (i.e., Nikki Fritz, Kitten Natividad) working there to supplement their incomes.
I was sitting and enjoying the show when an older, fairly unattractive and used up blonde came out of the dressing room. She walked past 15 guys without slowing down and came right up to me and asked for a dance. I politely declined, she asked again, and I declined again. She then left me, walked to the complete opposite end of the club without asking anyone else, then came back and made a beeline for me again. I declined a third time. She paused, then finally left and wandered back to the dressing room without stopping at any other tables (again). She came out five minutes, and yup, right to me and asks for a dance. Again. I'm a bit more terse now, and simply answer "No." "Why won't you dance with me?" she moped. So I proceeded to tell her.
I didn't appreciate her treating me a mark, literally ignoring every other customer in a crowded club and asking me 4 times in 10 minutes for a dance.
I prefer women with boobs, and she had none.
I prefer women with curves, and she had few, if any.
I prefer women who actually wear something attractive, instead of her dreadfully mismatched lingerie.
And finally, I prefer women who don't smell like an ashtray, which excluded her.
As you can imagine, she burst into tears and ran back into the dressing room. My mood was killed because she literally compelled me to be an asshole to her, which was the last thing I wanted to do, and so I left without getting any dances.
Funny thing is, there's a dancer at Hi-Liter who could be her doppelganger, in both body and mind. She, too, does not know how to take a friendly "no" as a no.
Moral is, inside a strip club, the truth will not set you free.
We have to help dancers maintain whatever separation of who they are in and out of the club that they want. So, to give one example, don't say much about her piercings and tats in a review, except that she has none/some/many.
A review shouldn't cause a dancer problems with LE or risk getting her fired. It's never fun for a dancer to deal with a particularly obnoxious customers. Consider how much worse it will be for her, if, because of your review, that customer now feels entitled for her to do what you said she did with you.
By default, you ask a dancer for a dance, or say yes or smile and say no thanks if she asks you if you want one. If she asks why you're saying no, she doesn't want an honest answer generally. If she convinces you she wants honest feedback, bend over backwards to be tactful.
I was married for a lot of years, and brutal honesty proved impossible, even in the offices of two marriage counselors.
SJG
Your dick is so big.
You are so handsome.
You really turn me on .
Are these things the truth ? I don't care. I want to hear my stripper tell me these things.
Also, when I rate a girl's attractiveness in a strip club I'm not using the same standard I would use for picking a girlfriend around the same age as me. A girl in a strip club could look just fine but just not quite good enough that I want to spend a large amount of money to spend a small amount of time with her. I'm 65 and look good for my age but, objectively speaking, they are almost all better looking than I am.
I am always friendly with each person I meet in a strip club. There is no reason to be brutally harsh with folks - whether inside or outside of strip clubs.
I think it can be a challenge with certain dancers - as Chilli Palmer described. A simple no doesn’t always work for dancers who put on a hard sell - or you view you as a mark.
I won’t give a detailed depiction of a dancer - and tearing her apart - as it’s not appropriate or necessary.
If I’m not acting appropriately in a club, I would appreciate a dancer (or bartender) letting me know, so I can correct my behavior.
I don’t expect folks to critique my looks. I’m an old guy who is a customer in a strip club - that’s likely pretty low on the looks scale already!
Now there is a difference between honest and intentionally cruel. If I'm not interested in a girl I just send her away. In rare instances where a girl is persistent I look her directly in the eye and tell her that she's just not my type, which usually does the trick. I can't remember the last time I had to something hurtful to a girl's face to make her go away.
But in reviews, all bets are off. If the club's lineup consists of four pigs, a stick thin post menopausal woman and a butterface with a fucked up grill, then that's on the club. I have zero interest in toning down the rhetoric for clubs that do a bad job in sporting decent lineups. If they don't want the bad press then they need to do better.
In so many words, a girl says she'll get naked and rub herself against me for $X/dance. Fair enough - I love the straight-forward exchange. Nowhere else in dating/romantic/relationships does this happen. Makes SC'ing one of the most relaxing endeavors known to man.
But I think that this type of thinking comes with time and experience. I definitely didn't view clubs the same way 20 years ago.
Thank God for titty bars and for all the gorgeous, destitute women who work there to pay their rent and feed their habits!!!
Who? Elsa, as in someone Elsa.
On a tangent: I completely disagree with “Regarding dancers, I don't see the point of including too much detail in reviews” (from a guy with 1200+ forum comments but just 4 reviews haha); the whole point of monger websites is to share intel to achieve better results, to get actionable intel from one another’s failures and successes. Sure, don’t explicitly tie good girls’ acts to names & get them in trouble; but otherwise name names & describe the experience - good or bad. I’d rather draw my own conclusions from a reviewer’s actual experience in the trenches than from reading abstract “wisdom” LOL.
You can be honest while also showing discretion, empathy, and compassion. Simply don’t say the mean things that pop into your head. It’s called emotional intelligence.