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Stealthing FSSW - DON'T

Sunday, February 16, 2020 1:53 AM
Happy belated Valentine's Day to all of the really awesome and respectful guys on this site. I think I speak on behalf of most females here that we all appreciate your understanding and consideration when you come into our places of employment and treat us, and our co-workers, with respect and dignity. With that said, I do want to briefly mention the activity of "stealthing" is illegal and considered rape (at least in my two states of residency). If you don't know what's stealthing is, it is the act of removing a condom during intercourse without the other party's consent. While on this subject, I am not confessing or admitting to being a victim of stealthing, but I did hear an awful lot about it happening tonight at the club I'm working at (at least three girls complained throughout the night). And the stories I did hear pissed me the fuck off. this isn't an argument on whether girls should feel the removal or not. This is more of an argument of (and demand for) consent and how important it is to communicate that with your chosen entertainer. I know this one little miniscule post on the Internet isn't going to stop it from happening, but I do hope you guys will speak up when you read about it in reviews or if you (hopefully you never do though) consider doing during your next outing, that you stop and reconsider. Regardless of this post, I hope you all had a splendid Valentine's Day and stuff and stuff. And for my fellow dancers on this site who may read this, I suggest you look up Lydia Dupra's 'free' videos on YouTube. She has one specifically on preventing stealthing as well as one on 20 ways to screen clients (for escorts). Both videos come in handy if you are a FSSW. And even then, it's still incredibly useful information to have as a non FSSW for your couch dances and VIPs.

40 comments

  • wiffle shwaffle
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    4 years ago
    For those interested, here is her video regarding stealthing: [view link] And here is her video regarding 20 ways to screen a client/customer: [view link]
  • gobstopper007
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    4 years ago
    No excuses. Some guys are just trash. If they don’t get charged they should at least get banned from that club.
  • wiffle shwaffle
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    4 years ago
    I don't know what happened exactly. From what I could understand in the locker room, it happened to one girl and then two others spoke up about a different guy doing it to them. But the first girl was in hysterics because the guy partially came in her in doggy and she's not on birth control. It pisses me off that guy's would do that without consent - especially cumming in her, too. 😡 I don't know if the other two girls had it happen on the same night as the first girl though. Regardless, it's shitty and I feel bad for them all. I wanted to speak up, but minded my own business and just kept getting dressed to leave.
  • wiffle shwaffle
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    4 years ago
    Whoops. Apostrophe typo with "guys". Fook yew, Samsung Galaxy Note 9.
  • Huntsman
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    4 years ago
    Waffle, at least by speaking up here you called it out. It’s an awful thing to do and there is no excuse for it.
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    4 years ago
    It's rape and guys who do that should be arrested. It's very rare, but I have seen some TUSCL users brag about stealthing and worse.
  • Stephanie4life
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    4 years ago
    Well said Wiffle
  • doctorevil
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    4 years ago
    If I'm not mistaken, this is what led Julian Assange to being charged with rape in Sweden.
  • DrStab
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    4 years ago
    Please be considerate of the dancers and fellow mongers! Keep it wrapped up!!!
  • Subraman
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    4 years ago
    I see SBs on sugar forums complain about this constantly -- they are much less aware and prepared than a professional sex worker, so they're sitting ducks for this, unfortunately.
  • FishHawk
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    4 years ago
    I was unaware that this was a thing. Thanks so much for bringing it forward, Waffle. Some guys are just royal jerks.
  • Uprightcitizen
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    4 years ago
    That's pretty fucked up. Waffle will management ban those guys if they can be identified?
  • bigman226
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    4 years ago
    Uprightcitizen, probably not. To do so would be to acknowledge sex is going on in the club.
  • wallanon
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    4 years ago
    It's clearly not cool. This the open forum so anyone can read it. Hey anyone, if you're reading this stealthing isn't cool and you're a dbag if you do it. Do customers really need anymore strikes against them when they show up in a club for entertainment? And then there's the not-ambiguous matter of consent. That one's easy. Either it was agreed there would be a wrapper or no wrapper.
  • ATACdawg
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    4 years ago
    It takes a major league jerk to put another person at risk of pregnancy or disease without so much as a "by your leave".
  • gSteph
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    4 years ago
    What a pitiful, asshole, self centered, jerk, rape thing to do. Entitled, boorish, despicable behavior. ESPECIALLY to someone who has agreed to have sex with you (even commercially). So wrong on all fronts. Saddens me to hear of this happening to another human being.
  • Fun_Loving_Fella
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    4 years ago
    Anyone uses “she should have felt it” as an excuse is missing the point that the line has already been crossed before that even comes into question
  • Jascoi
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    4 years ago
    best to agree to cross together.
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    4 years ago
    Uprightcitizen said "Waffle will management ban those guys if they can be identified?" Here's the problem with the dancer going to either club management or the cops. In both cases, the dancer has to confess to being a full-service sex worker (FSSW). The stigma of rape causes a large percentage of rapes outside of sex work to go unreported. Add the stigma of being a sex worker, and it becomes increasingly complex and difficult for the victim. Also, at many clubs I wouldn't blame the dancer for not trusting management to do the right thing.
  • loper
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    4 years ago
    Disgusting. Too bad that the bad guys so often get away with shit like this.
  • RTP
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    4 years ago
    I don't even understand why you would want to do this? Makes zero sense to me.
  • shadowcat
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    4 years ago
    I always take the used condoms with me to prevent the girls from self inseminating and blaming me. :)
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    4 years ago
    RTP said "I don't even understand why you would want to do this?" Well, most guys prefer sex without a condom. And a small subset of those guys are horrible raping pricks.
  • Liwet
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    4 years ago
    I'm not condoning the behavior, just asking a question due to my own ignorance. Can girls not feel the difference between a penis with a condom on and a penis without? I know I can feel the difference between bareback versus with a condom. Is there not a lot of nerve endings in the vagina or something?
  • boomer79
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    4 years ago
    Yeah that’s awful. I did have one time where one came off inside pulling out after I had finished but the girl was understanding. It was definitely an accident and was an anxious moment for both of us.
  • san_jose_guy
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    4 years ago
    If stealthing is considered rape, how about the women who engage in oopsing, making the guy believe that a contraceptive measure is being employed, but then doing something to remove or sabotage it? SJG
  • skibum609
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    4 years ago
    Condom use is to protect me. Leave it to the Progressive Ted "SJG" Bundy to make an asshole comment.
  • whodey
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    4 years ago
    Why the fuck would somebody do this? Yes I know it feels better without a condom, but if you are already paying a stranger for sex why not just find one who is willing to let you pay her for bareback? I know they are out there because I have had several escorts and a couple of strippers offer bareback but in my opinion if you are willing to fuck me bareback chances are you are doing it with others and that is too big of a risk for me. I have only had a few girlfriends that I was willing to risk going without a condom and I doubt I would ever find a p4p companion that I would risk it with.
  • san_jose_guy
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    4 years ago
    A lot of women lie about contraception use. SJG
  • rogertex
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    4 years ago
    Wiffle Waffle thanks for the post and really pleased with supportive responses. There will always be ghetto assholes and none will be reading this. While I agree there should be punishment for this bait and switch - but it is mainly for dancers to "read" their clients and not agree to anything solely for money. Your links are really useful. I have visited a lot of clubs. A majority - I'd say 90% of patrons are quiet, shy, peaceful people. i.e., Gentlemen. Heck a lot of TUSCLers don't even drink alcohol. The one or two that are forcing themselves on dancers - are giving away way too many clues - that even me as a guy can spot such a person. And a vagina is just as sensitive as a penis. Even with a condom, female knows exactly when guy is about to climax. Yeah makes my blood boil when our wonderful hobby is tarnished by a few assholes.
  • Dolfan
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    4 years ago
    Can I just add/correct. Don't do it period. Why only to FSSW? Don't do that shit to anyone.
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
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    4 years ago
    ^^^ Exactly.
  • rickdugan
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    4 years ago
    I't sad that anyone needs to be told this. Besides, it's not like most girls won't do it anyway when presented with the alternative of not getting paid. Maybe not the high volume girls fucking and sucking 5-10 guys a night ITC, but in many decently paid OTC situations it is often a cursory discussion if they bother to bring it up at all. If I did not of course insist on protection or stop them at a BBBJ, I'd be raw doggin' routinely.
  • san_jose_guy
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    4 years ago
    Can't pressure them in this kind of an area. Best just to be playful and teasing. SJG
  • crosscheck
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    4 years ago
    I just don't understand bullshit like this, but that just might have something to do with the fact that like the majority of people, my conscience is intact. The idea to pull a stunt like this would never even occur to me. There are some real pieces of shit out there though.
  • skibum609
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    4 years ago
    Amen cross.
  • twentyfive
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    4 years ago
    Ditto for me as well cross
  • san_jose_guy
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    4 years ago
    Women engaging in oopsing, deception about contraception all the time. Not exactly the same thing, but it is similar. SJG
  • IceyLoco
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    4 years ago
    Men who pay hookers are capable of a lot of things. I don't see why a hooker would trust a trick when the very nature of their relations is illicit.
  • san_jose_guy
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    4 years ago
    ^^^^^ I NEVER talk to women as though they sell sex or sex acts. No reason to every talk to them like that, not in any situation. SJG
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