Apparently none of you are ideal customers.

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wiffle shwaffle
According to a dancer I work with.

I showed her a review on a baby stripper we both know. She was appalled that I'm on and participate on this site and that I read/write reviews. I told her I've met several of you from here (but not amounts spent) and her literal response was: "
"These aren't the type of guys you want as customers. If they have all of this time to write all of this, they should be at the club spending more than on that site."

I don't know if she's pretentious and expects every guy to spend over $100 multiple times each week or if she just hates the idea of club/entertainer reviews.

I was offended for those of you I have met though. Kinda pissed me off.

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JuiceBox69
5 years ago
Birches be Bitches and Hoes be WHOLES
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
"These aren't the type of guys you want as customers. If they have all of this time to write all of this, they should be at the club spending more than on that site."

^ Wow this is an ignorant comment. Does she not realize that the average TUSCLer is one who goes to strip clubs and spends on strippers regularly? And that this site enables that behavior? She's a complete dumbass for thinking that.
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twentyfive
5 years ago
And apparently your friend isn’t an ideal dancer
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Warrior15
5 years ago
There is a little bit of logic in her thinking. I have become a much more efficient club-goer since I joined TUSCL. I now know not to over pay for things and am more prepared on how to deal with a ROB. So if she is a ROB, then she is not going to like our site.
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Huntsman
5 years ago
“I don't know if she's pretentious and expects every guy to spend over $100 multiple times each week or if she just hates the idea of club/entertainer reviews. ”

WW, as to your question, it could be both. Greed isn’t confined to strip clubs and, I guess, from the perspective of greed I suppose she is being logical. If she hates the idea of reviews, she’s being illogical in how she is stating her objection. But greed corrupts logical thinking at least as much, if not more, than and other vice. So it could be both.
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Huntsman
5 years ago
*than any other
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
"And apparently your friend isn’t an ideal dancer"

Trust me, not really a friend. Just someone I'm broke is a narcissist and extremely full of herself. Someone I keep at an arm's length away. I already have one narcissist looking for me and where I live/work, so I'm good with having any others come after me.
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nicespice
5 years ago
If TUSCLers aren’t ideal customers, then it shouldn’t be any sweat off her back. More high value customer potential for her. 😀

I don’t think I’ve ever heard review sites get mentioned anywhere else, IRL or online, aside from Stripperweb. Most of the comments are negative, but there are some who make more tone neutral comments that they use it to check reviews. Or even admit to writing BS reviews & posing as a customer to get VIP—back before the verification thing and free reviews.
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
I've done searches in the two major stripper/club related private Facebook groups for "TUSCL". The site has been brought up in both groups. Those groups are larger and more relevant than StripperWeb. The latter is more for the girls not in the Facebook groups.
I also looked on r/sexworkersonly on Reddit and those girls HATE USASG, but there was hardly a mention of this site on there.
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founder
5 years ago
Here is a little info from Google analytics.

Tuscl users are more often than not college educated, have above average income, and are in the 40-60 year old age bracket.

How Google comes up with that, I don't know.
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EndlessSummer
5 years ago
⬆️ Sounds ideal to me...
Aside from that, I found my one and only (at least, so far 😏) unicorn here, it's a brilliant way to market for free, and every one of us gals has the ability to drive traffic directly to this site if we so desire.... therefore creating a place where our "ideal" clients are provided additional service (posted schedules, messaging) and entertainment (photos, discussion boards) outside of the club.
Frankly, I'm appalled that she was appalled! 😲

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founder
5 years ago
I wouldn't mind being endlessSummer's unicorn, if you know what i mean... 🍑🦄
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jackslash
5 years ago
Six or seven years ago I was sitting in the Flight Club with my ATF and 3 of her dancer friends, talking and drinking (I was buying of course). The girls were talking about a TUSCL review of the club that mentioned some of these dancers. They did not like the idea of being reviewed or judged, and my ATF took particular exception to some of the comments about her. Not wanting to take any flak, I pretended I had never heard of TUSCL.
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nicespice
5 years ago
“Here is a little info from Google analytics.

Tuscl users are more often than not college educated, have above average income, and are in the 40-60 year old age bracket.

How Google comes up with that, I don't know.”

Based on what I’ve met so far, I can definitely believe that.

I remember back when I had a main club, there were a couple of separate times I met up with somebody from this site. And just based on their appearance, the waitresses would start trying to hustle the (expensive) cabanas for me. One of them was especially persistent once and chewed me out later on after he left because apparently he had a black card. 🤭

That really didn’t happen during normal shifts with the rando customers I dealt with.
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gammanu95
5 years ago
No offense meant to the lovely and lucid ladies on this thread, but when we refer to "stripper logic", WW's co-worker is the perfect example.
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georgebailey
5 years ago
Blah, what is a black card?
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Longball300
5 years ago
She'll learn.... learn that the members of this site *guaranteed* spend more $$ clubbing on an annual basis than the random Joe off the street. If she were smart she would use the site as a way to generate business for herself and whatever club she works at.
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jacej
5 years ago
@George - a Black Card is an AmEx Centurion Card. It's black colored, so it's called a Black Card. It's an invitation-only card. You can't apply for it, and you have to be a high net worth individual to get one. Someone with a black card is very well monied.
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gSteph
5 years ago
I'm not an ideal customer? Sigh

Damm, she must have seen my wallet.
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skibum609
5 years ago
My brother has a "black card" too. He was so proud when he showed me. All I could so is just shake my head. Its a status symbol he said. It lets people know you made it. All I could tell him was that the fact he cares that others know he made it, means he actually hasn't. When you can live your life secure in the knowledge that you are happy and doing your best to not harm others and not care wht others think; you have made it.
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
I can understand dancers often not seeing TUSCLers as ideal or preferred customers - a TUSCLer is often gonna be experienced and educated about the game, and is often gonna have higher expectations - and less-likely he can be overcharged and under-delivered - as I've at times posted in the past, dancers and custies often have different motivations and needs w.r.t. SCing (e.g. and why often times certain clubs that custies love (VHM/UHM, etc), dancers often hate) - I would not think most salespeople, whether they are selling cars or lappers, feel good about customers getting outside input/info other than what they wanna tell the customers (e.g. prior to the internet, it seemed way more common for customers to get shafted when buying a car b/c they were much less informed and much more at the mercy of the salesperson).

So I'd say TUSCLer custies can be good and bad for dancers - good b/c they are not spectator amateurs that just wanna look at some titties on stage and think spending $50 bucks in the club is "big $$$" - TUSCLer custies are bad for dancers b/c a lot of dancers bank on inexperienced custies not knowing any better.

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nicespice
5 years ago
Papi said —> “So I'd say TUSCLer custies can be good and bad for dancers - good b/c they are not spectator amateurs that just wanna look at some titties on stage and think spending $50 bucks in the club is "big $$$" - TUSCLer custies are bad for dancers b/c a lot of dancers bank on inexperienced custies not knowing any better.”

That’s a good summary and I’d agree. That being said, a lot of big spenders (and by that, I mean those who may drop over a grand for a single club visit) I believe aren’t necessarily being taken advantage of. They are just simply a different customer group looking for a different experience (related to ego).

And it’s unsurprising they don’t hang around here. The few times I’ve seen one of these customers write a review—they tend to get shamed.

There’s also another group that doesn’t get represented on this site, but is a customer demographic that I tend to like in every city I’ve been at: blue collar Mexicans. There are exceptions of course, but IME they tend to be an easygoing batch of men. 🥰 And tbh if I see a middle aged white guy or a 30 something Mexican sitting at two different tables, there’s a good chance I’ll go for the easier sale first and check back on the other guy later if he’s still free.
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Lovelyeast
5 years ago
I mean technically she isn’t wrong and no Tuscl member should be offended because I’ve heard y’all spit out worse about dancers. I don’t come here to get customers out of 100 only %5 show up n keep ya word.

Perhaps y’all should go pay the lady and visit and change her mind. After all love begets love, 😂
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
"... That’s a good summary and I’d agree. That being said ...


Somehow I knew there'd be a "but" after reading the first sentence in that statement (particularly coming from a dancer 😄 - but as I often say, dancers and PLs are often gonna see things thru different goggles)
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
"... a lot of big spenders (and by that, I mean those who may drop over a grand for a single club visit) I believe aren’t necessarily being taken advantage of ..."

IMO the amount of $$$ does not determine whether a custy is being taken advantage of - a custy being charged $20 for a $10 floor-dance is being taken advantage of IMO - a custy paying $500 for VIP at an upscale Manhattan club is not necessarily being taken advantage of.

But I assume you mean e.g. there are custies that are perfectly fine w/ spending $1K in VIP just for company with no other expectations (or just comfortable w/ spending $1K for w/e form of entertainment) - I assume there *are* custies like this, and that they would get scolded by many on TUSCL - as far as I'm concerned, as long as a custy knows the deal, then what he decides to spend and how to spend it, is his biz - it just seems more -often-than-not that custies paying big-bucks do it out-of-ignorance not knowing any better.
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
"... There’s also another group that doesn’t get represented on this site, but is a customer demographic that I tend to like in every city I’ve been at: blue collar Mexicans. There are exceptions of course, but IME they tend to be an easygoing batch of men ..."

Down here in SoFlo, I'm used to being mostly around Cubans - the few years I lived in Dallas in the 2000s, I had the chance to be exposed to Mexicans - per my limited interaction, I found most Mexicans to be humble - Salvadorians and Guatemalans OTOH are often rougher-around-the-edges (not always easy to tell who is from where though).
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K
5 years ago
she has no idea what an ideal customer is. She has an us vs them mentality. The job will become hell for her if she does not lose that.
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PinkSugarDoll
5 years ago
Ooh thoughtful comments. 👍🏼

I’m with BlahBlahBlah or whoever you are today—what’s going on here mostly carries no weight with any dancer.

Unless, you would like to use it to be better at your job. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Blue collar Mexicans—agree, two of my top ten customers ever have fit this demo, one of them was Best Customer #3 and a very nice guy and we had dinner monthly in spite of our language barrier. These guys are also the most likely to come to the club and spend zero though, and the most likely to try to not pay for their dances or pay less than they owe. My experience, and my apologies if you think it’s a stereotype but just discussing the other side of the coin.

With reviews for clubs and dancers, they are usually not positive. That’s probably why girls object to them. People here don’t go out of their way too often to say anything about ALL THE OTHER STUFF WE ARE EXPECTED TO DO for customers, unless it’s missing, and here, there is a lot of disrespect for women. There are a lot of very nice people too, but it only takes one—one cruddy comment, or one cruddy review to make you feel like shit and avoid the thing that makes you feel like shit.

I have other things to say but trying to remain positive lol!
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
PinkSugarDoll, if you search for SexWorkersOnly on Reddit, you'll see a lot of comments from those girls who have had awful issues maintaining their businesses and keeping customers after negative reviews have been posted. It's mostly escorts, but still applies to dancers. When customers review *us* negatively, they fail to take into account a plethora of varying reasons as to why whatever they're complaining about is even happening. We're human beings, just like the gentlemen. Mistakes can happen, we can forget things, we can run out of time to clean properly, etc, etc.
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doctorevil
5 years ago
“ We're human beings, just like the gentlemen. Mistakes can happen . . .”

Another reason not to use names, unless (1) you have something good to say (not involving extras) or (2) she was an outright ROB, in which case she should be run out If the business.
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
"... When customers review *us* negatively, they fail to take into account a plethora of varying reasons as to why whatever they're complaining about is even happening. We're human beings, just like the gentlemen ...."

In all fairness - dancers probably "review" PLs also - i.e. it seems fairly-common for dancers to share info w/ each other about custies in the club (both good and bad)
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skibum609
5 years ago
If there is any woman on earthn worth "dropping a grand" on I would like to meet her. At the end of the day we pay chefs because we suck at making food; mechanics because we suck at fixing cars; plumbers because we suck at plumbing and sex workers because ........
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Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
"... If there is any woman on earthn worth "dropping a grand" on I would like to meet her ...."

So a Victoria Secret model would not be worth it? Or a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit model? IMO they'd be def worth that and much-more assuming one is into that look.

The avg provider is not worth spending $1K on since that is well above going-rate in most-areas - but that's not to say no woman is IMO.
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K
5 years ago
"We're human beings, just like the gentlemen. Mistakes can happen . . "

The words "I am sorry" were invented for such cases. An apology and an explanation would go a long way towards stopping any bad reviews. Details aren't necessary. just a short apology and a brief explanation. I am sorry I was late, I had baby sitter issues. Or I am sorry was distracted my last customer pissed me off. I'll be better next time.
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Lovelyeast
5 years ago
Papi_Chulo we really don’t share info about customers. I honestly found men to be much more chatty about things that you would think women would be chatty about.
Not saying we are lip tight about customers because sometimes there is talk but wwwwwaaayyy less than you’d assume. And it’s funny cause it’s always the same one or two who talk about everything n everyone.

On the Stripperweb are main focused is the club operations not the customer... but hey what do I know I’m just a Vet 🤷🏾‍♀️
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
"In all fairness - dancers probably "review" PLs also"

There is a customer review site for SDs and escort clients that I don't know about. I've heard of it though from escorts and sugar babies though. It's none of the common ones we all know of.
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Uprightcitizen
5 years ago
Simply tell her she should avoid educated, high earning middle aged males. If she is worried about a personal review well I suppose there are some random douches that do that but I have observed they are typically shamed into silence.
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skibum609
5 years ago
Papi: The answer is no they would not be worth it. Beautiful women are simply beautiful women and it has no positive impact on how great they are sexually. Value is how each individual perceives it and in my perception there is no woman on earth worth that kind of money just for sex. I am well aware many feel differently and I am related to a few who think I am out of my mind on this issue, but thats their value perception.
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twentyfive
5 years ago
The amount of effort required to become an ideal customer is more that I’m willing to be bothered with, all I know is if I’m spending my money, IDGAF what her requirements are, she needs to satisfy my requirements or I won’t be a customer.
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
I would think that an ideal customer is the kind that drops $100 for one air dance. Basically overpays for minimum in return. That's definitely not me, but I do think most TUSCLers in general are good customers simply because most will spend on a stripper. All I know is my faves are all glad to see me when I visit them because of my massages. 🤗💃. Yesterday my ATF DS was moaning from my neck massage as she called me "the best".
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rickdugan
5 years ago
All of this is way too much thinking for me. If a dancer and I have a meeting of the minds as far as what we are get from the interaction then great. Otherwise either she moves along or I send her away. Simple. My obligations to her end at treating her decently and, of course, paying her what was promised.

Now I agree that some dancers have a negative view of the site, but that's not the reason why I don't advertise my participation. Given my travels and local activities, some of which I post about, I don't want any dancer to have such a full picture of what I do as it could impact my negotiations with some of the lower volume gals.
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
@rickdugan I think that's a pretty normal approach for most TUSCLers. Regardless of the service desired, it's businesslike and efficient and ideal from that standpoint. Basically most TUSCLers cut through the hustle game and get to business.
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rickdugan
5 years ago
===> "I think that's a pretty normal approach for most TUSCLers. Regardless of the service desired, it's businesslike and efficient and ideal from that standpoint. Basically most TUSCLers cut through the hustle game and get to business."

Au contraire SLD. "Businesslike' is a goofy concept harbored primarily by dancers, most especially those who struggle to understand people and process nuance. What I mean by what I get from the interaction is sexy entertainment and often more, which by its very nature has a quasi personal element for the customer. Sure there are a few tusclers on here who go in for quick strike dances and little else, bit there are plenty also looking for fuller experiences and it is the same with many club regulars.
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
"I would think that an ideal customer is the kind that drops $100 for one air dance. Basically overpays for minimum in return. That's definitely not me, but I do think most TUSCLers in general are good customers simply because most will spend on a stripper."

For the person who said that, yes. This is accurate. I told her I've met some of the guys from here as customers and that's when she basically bashed everyone at once. Small minded hoe.
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
@rick we are on the same page. I meant we are businesslike in getting "sexy entertainment and often more, which by its very nature has a quasi personal element for the customer". To me this is still part of the business. Again I meant we are businesslike in getting what we want and are efficient in negotiating over it. This is why I said "regardless of the services desired."
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
@Waffle that was me that said that and yeah, in short, a TUSCLer is almost guaranteed business. Or at the very least they will move on quickly.
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
Everytime I've met someone from this site, they have spent time with me in vip. The exception was once - where he was almost out of money, but still gave me like $40 to hang out and chat for a few songs.
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nicespice
5 years ago
—>”Otherwise either she moves along or I send her away. Simple. My obligations to her end at treating her decently and, of course, paying her what was promised.”

https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6951…
🤭
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rickdugan
5 years ago
===> " I meant we are businesslike in getting "sexy entertainment and often more, which by its very nature has a quasi personal element for the customer". To me this is still part of the business. Again I meant we are businesslike in getting what we want and are efficient in negotiating over it. This is why I said "regardless of the services desired.""

Again SLD I'm going to dispute this a bit. I think it's more organic than that for most guys. I for one am never going to sit there and have a clinical conversation about my entertainment expectations and I doubt that most other guys are either, at least beyond any negotiated p4p services. It either clicks or it doesn't.

As much as I'm sure all us tusclers appreciate your continued efforts to speak on their behalf, I have to say that your efforts to try to box this are kinda' getting weird from my perspective... 😉

To add to my earlier comments, the one thing I'm not inclined to do is sit there and ponder how I can be an "ideal customer." Either she comes to the same meeting of the minds, including any organic components to the interaction, or she doesn't. I suppose I might feel differently if my interactions with hot dancers were going poorly, but I get my share, as no doubt do many others on here, so there it is.

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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
@OG nicespice LMAO!

Next time we meet up I'm going to make a jerking off gesture at you as your cue to come over for your massage. And you better pretend to like it! 😝
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
@rickdugan you misunderstood my point but that's ok because your argument is actually supporting what I'm saying. LMAO we are actually agreeing.
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rickdugan
5 years ago
Blah, that one didn't get paid because she didn't do what she agreed to. In interactions with too many dancers to count over two decades, that is one of only two I have ever withheld money from. It was just that bad. The implication of "pay her what was promised" assumes that she at least tried to hold up her end. I've even paid girls who I took to the hotel and then passed out drunk before we could do xyz, but this one tried to be devious and it cost her.
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
"I think it's more organic than that for most guys. I for one am never going to sit there and have a clinical conversation about my entertainment expectations and I doubt that most other guys are either, at least beyond any negotiated p4p services. It either clicks or it doesn't."

^ This is a businesslike approach to me.

And it's ironic that you stated "most guys" in it. 🤭
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FishHawk
5 years ago
I am one of the PL’s from this site that has met Wiffle Waffle. My only regret was I did not have more time to spend with her. We did have a very nice timed dance, I truly enjoyed it.
My goal is to meet as many of the dancers here who post regularly on this site. There is a good chance I will meet two more in the next month or so. I do recommend that any that can meet Wiffle Waffle make a effort to see her. She is a pretty, sweet spinner with a great personality. You won’t regret it.
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
I'd meet up with Waffle in a heartbeat. And give her the best massage I can for as long as she wanted before getting some dances. And the drinks are on me. 🤗💃🥂
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MackTruck
5 years ago
Lmao
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Tiburon
5 years ago
I'd hate to be her friend if I were prettier than her. Couldn't go to a night club without her making a stank face because she was paid less attention to. Unfortunately girls like that never grow out of it and only find a sucker to rip off all his money until death do them part keeping up her inflated ego.
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gSteph
5 years ago
Well, there's an if

And there's an opinion
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rh48hr
5 years ago
I did not read all of the previous comments so if I'm saying something that's already been said I apologize.

Those dancers who do not like to be reviewed probably don't like to be reviewed because they're afraid they don't do a good , or know that they rip people off and don't want the word getting out.. If you do a good job, reviews can increase your business. But I think most of those dancers are probably too short-sighted to see it.
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max_starr
5 years ago
I try not to review dancers by name or get very specific on thing as I don't want to get anyone in trouble. But I will say this...if I come and visit you, you'll not be disappointed if you're decent looking and know how to dance.
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
Nobody from TUSCL is going out of their way to meet a dancer from the site only to not spend any money or buy one dance. I think the least I ever got from anybody from TUSCL or TwoSheds (RIP) was like $100. And many turned into repeat customers, too.
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
@Waffle to your point I saw nicespice 9 times over the span of a month. And got 3 dances with her every time.
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
^ and besides that she got, and I quote, "DA BEST" massages every time. 🦄🤗
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Tiburon
5 years ago
@Wiffle Waffle I dunno. If your picture looks like one thing and reality looks like another, then I'm not paying you a dime. I've seen it happen once or twice.
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
I'm concealing my identity on purpose. Not all of us thots want to be out there openly or posting public photos.
Everyone has their flavor. Clearly, I'm not yours. It's a mutual feeling, so no loss to me. ^_^
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Tiburon
5 years ago
@Wiffle Waffle I wasn't referring to you specifically. I was speaking in general terms
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
Well, you tagged me. So it seemed targeted. I apologise.
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
Plus I'm in a bad mood because the State of Florida decided to screw me over on my birthday weekend. So, again, super sorry.
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Nidan111
5 years ago
@waffle. I thought getting fucked for one’s birthday was a positive thing. I know I’d like it. ..... did they not kiss you when they screwed you?
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rickdugan
5 years ago
===> "Plus I'm in a bad mood because the State of Florida decided to screw me over on my birthday weekend. "

Mind if I ask how so? Don't mean to pry - I'm just curious as a fellow resident of the state. I'm assuming it is a moving violation or DMV issue as these are about the only interactions most people here have with the state since there is no income tax and most of the policing is done by county sheriffs. Unless of course you have an occupational license, but the state doesn't license strippers.
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wiffle shwaffle
5 years ago
It's complicated, but believe it or not, I, a stripper, didn't do anything wrong legally speaking. I don't want to put it all here because it's personal and completely off topic. But I did nothing wrong, yet the DMV made a big oopsie.
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Tiburon
5 years ago
So what is the ideal customer in you strippers minds?
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max_starr
5 years ago
Probably what I've done a few times when I was in an extremely good mood and loaded with cash. I visited the club on a dead night...maybe one or two other customers....I end up with 2 CF I know sitting at the bar and even one new girl they just hired....I buy them their drink quotas, pay their tipouts....go and get some dances from all 3, and then end up taking 2 of them OTC to a hotel afterwards....and blowing another 500....

You know its pretty bad when the club lets you take them home out the back door and manager asks me if I'm going to cover tipouts! LOL

I don't do it most of the time, but I can be generous once in a while...
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boomer79
5 years ago
I suppose it depends on what an ideal customer is although even on here there is a lot of variation. This site does have a lot of people who spend a lot of time and money in clubs. However they may also have higher expectations than the general customer population.
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EndlessSummer
5 years ago
I've been thinking a lot about this one... What IS an ideal customer?
I think for me, it's someone who I enjoy being around (the basics: practices good hygiene and isn't rude) and who is generous. That doesn't mean extravagant, just not clutching his wallet like it's the last remaining lifeboat at the sinking of the Titanic.
When I'm with an ideal customer, I never have to ask for anything... He offers a drink when he sees mine is empty and he asks for the dance(s) when he's ready ( or, we know each other well enough to both know when it's time).
During the dance, he's able to relax and enjoy himself and afterward he slips me a tip to show he appreciated my efforts to make sure he relaxed and enjoyed himself.
The ideal customer treats me like I treat him and we both walk away from the encounter feeling like it was time/money well spent.
As I write this, I realize how lucky I am to have so many ideal customers!! 🔆🧡🔆
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DeclineToState
5 years ago
^Good for you. Win/Win. And one of the reasons I like a CF.
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PinkSugarDoll
5 years ago
Endless Summer YES.
👍🏼👌🏼👏🏼🤙🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼🤟🏼
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Uprightcitizen
5 years ago
EndlessSummer nailed it! It's not a zero sum gain and both parties need to feel they gained/ enjoyed the experience. It also leads to repeat and potentially becoming a CF (which I also would expect is the next level ideal customer).
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Tiburon
5 years ago
@EndlessSummer WTF!?😵 That doesn't sound ideal, that sounds like a chump. Closed mouths dont get man. Who auto refills a person's drink without provocation if it ain't your friends or GF? Might as well go to a night club. It'll be cheaper.

Then again I restrict majority of my funds to dances so who knows. Maybe I'm just weird.
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Tiburon
5 years ago
@uprightcitizen I think your just a Cape crusader. Pretty sure repeat business comes from showing you can pay for a lot of dances/VIP, not just drinks.
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EndlessSummer
5 years ago
@Tiburon First of all, I'm not slamming shots... I'm usually sipping wine, or leisurely drinking a cocktail. The usual flow is that we finish our drinks at around the same time and he'll order another round. A polite courtesy in a social situation.
Also, dances are usually better when drinks are flowing and inhibitions are lowered... kind of a no brainer. Not sayin I'm gettin schnockered or anything, but a pleasant buzz is good for all! 🥂
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FishHawk
5 years ago
I think there are dancers with different styles and each have different ideal customers. There are dancers that just like to cram as many dances in a shift as they can. Jumping from one customer to another. There are customers who are happy to just get that immediate physical contact without a lot of chitchat.
Other dancers want a more interactive experience where drinking and conversation lead to fewer but more engaging dances. I for one is a customer who prefers the later. I am willing to spend the money but I want an experience that is more then physical.
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EndlessSummer
5 years ago
^Since i'm strictly a day shifter, this works best for me.
However, I should add that I don't NEED drinks to give entertaining dances, but it's usually part of my day shift experience. I don't like to feel like I'm putting anyone out, so I prefer not to ask for anything. Hence, the auto refills if we're both enjoying beverages and some conversation before the culmination of our encounter.
If someone just wants a dance, that's just fine by me as well...at that point, the ideal remains that he's someone I enjoy being around and is generous.
And...this was all about what the ideal is... I don't refuse all others! 🤪
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Tiburon
5 years ago
That actually should say "closed mouths dont get fed" I'm not sure how autocorrect thought it was appropriate to change that but it seems to work in this case so happy accidents all around 😁

@EndlessSummer you cant go and first say your ideal customer treats you to a drink without provocation. Then suddenly say hes fine not to order you one. Your creating confusing points here. And nowhere is it socially considerate to just automatically order someone a drink without asking. That's entirely individual perspective and in some settings may get a man slapped or covered with said drink. I'd refer to that unconventional (since most people ask before doing) and bizarro stripper world is all about unconventional.....so never mind keep up your perspective. It fits strip club rules and regulations 😂

Also I didnt mention anything about you "slamming shots". Not sure where that came from
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
The way I see day shift and slow times in general is that some dancers don't mind sitting with a PL for a long time and not be a lapdance hopper because there's no one else to get dances with anyway. So rather than sit alone and make zilch, a dancer can at least get some free drinks and probably get a bigger lapdance tip later if she sits with a PL a while. When business picks up, then she can go into lapdance hopper mode. On a slow day I've sat and massaged and got my dick continually teased with a fave for up to 2 hrs straight before getting dances. And absolutely at the time I was by far the most ideal customer because nobody else was there (or they came just to play video poker and not spend on strippers)! 😎😎😎
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OldWhiteGuy
5 years ago
The great thing about strip clubs is that there's someone for everyone. Girls I have no interest in are the girl of some other guy's dreams. This site gives a little information to help in the decision making process. And, by the way, skibum ,I've had a few $1,000 days.....but it wasn't with one girl
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Nidan111
5 years ago
I am. But, I’m
Drunk at home, so my opinion doesn’t count at this moment. At least i got my shooting berm set up in
My back yard. Gonna teach my kids how to be expert marksmen. Gonna wait until I’m sober.
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
I met a new fave the other day. All natural 8-9 redhead straight out of a pinup model calendar. Within two minutes of sitting down together I'm giving her a sorely needed massage and she's moaning and groaning from it, telling me she's spoiled and purring like a kitten. We sit that way for 30 min as she also wiggles and grinds her juicy booty into my hard boner. When it's time for dances she quotes $40/1 or $100/3 but she comes down for me when I ask her if $30/1 is OK. She gives me two awesome high mileage dances and even asks me exactly what position I like for the second song. I couldn't have scripted it any better with a regular fave.

Yesterday my ATF DS and I were sitting together and she said to another regular at the bar that she "loves" me and that I'm the best.

If I'm not an ideal customer I dunno why strippers, old and new, want to sit and let me feel them up - I mean massage them - with my boner poking their ass for at most a drink and then give me a deal on dances. It happens just about ever club visit now. 🤷🤗
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SirLapdancealot
5 years ago
^ *every* club visit now
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georgmicrodong
5 years ago
With regard to the "blue collar Mexicans" mentioned up thread, those types are almost universally reviled in Louisville. They're demanding and cheap. More than one girl has complained about them attempting to insert fingers where they don't belong, at the bloody stage, thinking that FS is available on a single song lap dance, and having severe body odor.

This has been the case for a long time, my ATF complained about them when she was still dancing.

The track seems to attract a lot of them for whatever reason, so maybe it's just the higher concentrations that bring them out.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
5 years ago
Now that I've been on this site for a few years, I think that TUSCL has users represent both the best and the absolute worst offered by strip club customers. I think that if a dancer wants to be a rip-off artist, then she'll hate everything here.

Most of the guys here want to spend their money, and not get scammed in the process. I think that there's a fair number of us who don't see dancers as adversaries or "the enemy", even if what we want is not always aligned with what a dancer wants.

But there's also guys here (scpandit) who can die in a fire.
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MackTruck
5 years ago
I am the ideal shit truck driver
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bang69
4 years ago
As a vip member of this site. I tell it like it is. And always try to be respectful of others on this site. And mostly be respectful of dancers when at the club. Strippers, Dancers or what ever term you want to use. They are people to.
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wallanon
4 years ago
"She has an us vs them mentality. The job will become hell for her if she does not lose that."

I tried to read down the whole thread again, but you can just guess at what it said and save yourself the time. The "hell" quote was interesting because what came to mind is "there's a sucker born every minute". People suck at cooking fries and still have jobs. If the dancer whose ill received comment kicked off the thread gets a rise out of dudes some of them will spend on her.
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TheElmerFudd
4 years ago
i just don't give a shit what some random stripper thinks.
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dirtyburt
4 years ago
Many of the post 2008 dancers were used to free stuff just being handed out to them. 99 weeks unemployment insurance,welfare, free phones etc. So they really didn’t understand the nature of many of us.
Example a dancer that works 5 to 6 days a week, doesn’t get strung out, loves to make money, learns to play and understand the game, will do outstanding in this business.
Many new dancers think that we are walking ATM’s, that never saw pussy before, and will empty our pockets on the first bomber that stops by.... some may many more will not.
Looks, hygiene, and a sensual tease also score points........
The best skill they need to sharpen, is how to determine a spender from a miser in under 5 minutes. Don’t spend all night to figure out a guy is cheap. But just because a guy only tips a buck, don’t immediately blow them off.
Once you find the spenders, learn to juggle them so you can keep them all happy.
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Cashman1234
4 years ago
That is my daily affirmation - I repeat it every morning in the mirror -

I am a filthy pig, and brutally rough pervert - but I am an ideal strip club customer. I know this because I know whores love my money.
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twentyfive
4 years ago
I may not be ideal but my wallet is damn good
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MackTruck
4 years ago
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