Apparently none of you are ideal customers.
wiffle shwaffle
According to a dancer I work with.
I showed her a review on a baby stripper we both know. She was appalled that I'm on and participate on this site and that I read/write reviews. I told her I've met several of you from here (but not amounts spent) and her literal response was: "
"These aren't the type of guys you want as customers. If they have all of this time to write all of this, they should be at the club spending more than on that site."
I don't know if she's pretentious and expects every guy to spend over $100 multiple times each week or if she just hates the idea of club/entertainer reviews.
I was offended for those of you I have met though. Kinda pissed me off.
I showed her a review on a baby stripper we both know. She was appalled that I'm on and participate on this site and that I read/write reviews. I told her I've met several of you from here (but not amounts spent) and her literal response was: "
"These aren't the type of guys you want as customers. If they have all of this time to write all of this, they should be at the club spending more than on that site."
I don't know if she's pretentious and expects every guy to spend over $100 multiple times each week or if she just hates the idea of club/entertainer reviews.
I was offended for those of you I have met though. Kinda pissed me off.
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^ Wow this is an ignorant comment. Does she not realize that the average TUSCLer is one who goes to strip clubs and spends on strippers regularly? And that this site enables that behavior? She's a complete dumbass for thinking that.
WW, as to your question, it could be both. Greed isn’t confined to strip clubs and, I guess, from the perspective of greed I suppose she is being logical. If she hates the idea of reviews, she’s being illogical in how she is stating her objection. But greed corrupts logical thinking at least as much, if not more, than and other vice. So it could be both.
Trust me, not really a friend. Just someone I'm broke is a narcissist and extremely full of herself. Someone I keep at an arm's length away. I already have one narcissist looking for me and where I live/work, so I'm good with having any others come after me.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard review sites get mentioned anywhere else, IRL or online, aside from Stripperweb. Most of the comments are negative, but there are some who make more tone neutral comments that they use it to check reviews. Or even admit to writing BS reviews & posing as a customer to get VIP—back before the verification thing and free reviews.
I also looked on r/sexworkersonly on Reddit and those girls HATE USASG, but there was hardly a mention of this site on there.
Tuscl users are more often than not college educated, have above average income, and are in the 40-60 year old age bracket.
How Google comes up with that, I don't know.
Aside from that, I found my one and only (at least, so far 😏) unicorn here, it's a brilliant way to market for free, and every one of us gals has the ability to drive traffic directly to this site if we so desire.... therefore creating a place where our "ideal" clients are provided additional service (posted schedules, messaging) and entertainment (photos, discussion boards) outside of the club.
Frankly, I'm appalled that she was appalled! 😲
Tuscl users are more often than not college educated, have above average income, and are in the 40-60 year old age bracket.
How Google comes up with that, I don't know.”
Based on what I’ve met so far, I can definitely believe that.
I remember back when I had a main club, there were a couple of separate times I met up with somebody from this site. And just based on their appearance, the waitresses would start trying to hustle the (expensive) cabanas for me. One of them was especially persistent once and chewed me out later on after he left because apparently he had a black card. 🤭
That really didn’t happen during normal shifts with the rando customers I dealt with.
Damm, she must have seen my wallet.
So I'd say TUSCLer custies can be good and bad for dancers - good b/c they are not spectator amateurs that just wanna look at some titties on stage and think spending $50 bucks in the club is "big $$$" - TUSCLer custies are bad for dancers b/c a lot of dancers bank on inexperienced custies not knowing any better.
That’s a good summary and I’d agree. That being said, a lot of big spenders (and by that, I mean those who may drop over a grand for a single club visit) I believe aren’t necessarily being taken advantage of. They are just simply a different customer group looking for a different experience (related to ego).
And it’s unsurprising they don’t hang around here. The few times I’ve seen one of these customers write a review—they tend to get shamed.
There’s also another group that doesn’t get represented on this site, but is a customer demographic that I tend to like in every city I’ve been at: blue collar Mexicans. There are exceptions of course, but IME they tend to be an easygoing batch of men. 🥰 And tbh if I see a middle aged white guy or a 30 something Mexican sitting at two different tables, there’s a good chance I’ll go for the easier sale first and check back on the other guy later if he’s still free.
Perhaps y’all should go pay the lady and visit and change her mind. After all love begets love, 😂
Somehow I knew there'd be a "but" after reading the first sentence in that statement (particularly coming from a dancer 😄 - but as I often say, dancers and PLs are often gonna see things thru different goggles)
IMO the amount of $$$ does not determine whether a custy is being taken advantage of - a custy being charged $20 for a $10 floor-dance is being taken advantage of IMO - a custy paying $500 for VIP at an upscale Manhattan club is not necessarily being taken advantage of.
But I assume you mean e.g. there are custies that are perfectly fine w/ spending $1K in VIP just for company with no other expectations (or just comfortable w/ spending $1K for w/e form of entertainment) - I assume there *are* custies like this, and that they would get scolded by many on TUSCL - as far as I'm concerned, as long as a custy knows the deal, then what he decides to spend and how to spend it, is his biz - it just seems more -often-than-not that custies paying big-bucks do it out-of-ignorance not knowing any better.
Down here in SoFlo, I'm used to being mostly around Cubans - the few years I lived in Dallas in the 2000s, I had the chance to be exposed to Mexicans - per my limited interaction, I found most Mexicans to be humble - Salvadorians and Guatemalans OTOH are often rougher-around-the-edges (not always easy to tell who is from where though).
I’m with BlahBlahBlah or whoever you are today—what’s going on here mostly carries no weight with any dancer.
Unless, you would like to use it to be better at your job. 🤷🏼♀️
Blue collar Mexicans—agree, two of my top ten customers ever have fit this demo, one of them was Best Customer #3 and a very nice guy and we had dinner monthly in spite of our language barrier. These guys are also the most likely to come to the club and spend zero though, and the most likely to try to not pay for their dances or pay less than they owe. My experience, and my apologies if you think it’s a stereotype but just discussing the other side of the coin.
With reviews for clubs and dancers, they are usually not positive. That’s probably why girls object to them. People here don’t go out of their way too often to say anything about ALL THE OTHER STUFF WE ARE EXPECTED TO DO for customers, unless it’s missing, and here, there is a lot of disrespect for women. There are a lot of very nice people too, but it only takes one—one cruddy comment, or one cruddy review to make you feel like shit and avoid the thing that makes you feel like shit.
I have other things to say but trying to remain positive lol!
Another reason not to use names, unless (1) you have something good to say (not involving extras) or (2) she was an outright ROB, in which case she should be run out If the business.
In all fairness - dancers probably "review" PLs also - i.e. it seems fairly-common for dancers to share info w/ each other about custies in the club (both good and bad)
So a Victoria Secret model would not be worth it? Or a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit model? IMO they'd be def worth that and much-more assuming one is into that look.
The avg provider is not worth spending $1K on since that is well above going-rate in most-areas - but that's not to say no woman is IMO.
The words "I am sorry" were invented for such cases. An apology and an explanation would go a long way towards stopping any bad reviews. Details aren't necessary. just a short apology and a brief explanation. I am sorry I was late, I had baby sitter issues. Or I am sorry was distracted my last customer pissed me off. I'll be better next time.
Not saying we are lip tight about customers because sometimes there is talk but wwwwwaaayyy less than you’d assume. And it’s funny cause it’s always the same one or two who talk about everything n everyone.
On the Stripperweb are main focused is the club operations not the customer... but hey what do I know I’m just a Vet 🤷🏾♀️
There is a customer review site for SDs and escort clients that I don't know about. I've heard of it though from escorts and sugar babies though. It's none of the common ones we all know of.
Now I agree that some dancers have a negative view of the site, but that's not the reason why I don't advertise my participation. Given my travels and local activities, some of which I post about, I don't want any dancer to have such a full picture of what I do as it could impact my negotiations with some of the lower volume gals.
Au contraire SLD. "Businesslike' is a goofy concept harbored primarily by dancers, most especially those who struggle to understand people and process nuance. What I mean by what I get from the interaction is sexy entertainment and often more, which by its very nature has a quasi personal element for the customer. Sure there are a few tusclers on here who go in for quick strike dances and little else, bit there are plenty also looking for fuller experiences and it is the same with many club regulars.
For the person who said that, yes. This is accurate. I told her I've met some of the guys from here as customers and that's when she basically bashed everyone at once. Small minded hoe.
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6951…
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Again SLD I'm going to dispute this a bit. I think it's more organic than that for most guys. I for one am never going to sit there and have a clinical conversation about my entertainment expectations and I doubt that most other guys are either, at least beyond any negotiated p4p services. It either clicks or it doesn't.
As much as I'm sure all us tusclers appreciate your continued efforts to speak on their behalf, I have to say that your efforts to try to box this are kinda' getting weird from my perspective... 😉
To add to my earlier comments, the one thing I'm not inclined to do is sit there and ponder how I can be an "ideal customer." Either she comes to the same meeting of the minds, including any organic components to the interaction, or she doesn't. I suppose I might feel differently if my interactions with hot dancers were going poorly, but I get my share, as no doubt do many others on here, so there it is.
Next time we meet up I'm going to make a jerking off gesture at you as your cue to come over for your massage. And you better pretend to like it! 😝
^ This is a businesslike approach to me.
And it's ironic that you stated "most guys" in it. 🤭
My goal is to meet as many of the dancers here who post regularly on this site. There is a good chance I will meet two more in the next month or so. I do recommend that any that can meet Wiffle Waffle make a effort to see her. She is a pretty, sweet spinner with a great personality. You won’t regret it.
And there's an opinion
Those dancers who do not like to be reviewed probably don't like to be reviewed because they're afraid they don't do a good , or know that they rip people off and don't want the word getting out.. If you do a good job, reviews can increase your business. But I think most of those dancers are probably too short-sighted to see it.
Everyone has their flavor. Clearly, I'm not yours. It's a mutual feeling, so no loss to me. ^_^
Mind if I ask how so? Don't mean to pry - I'm just curious as a fellow resident of the state. I'm assuming it is a moving violation or DMV issue as these are about the only interactions most people here have with the state since there is no income tax and most of the policing is done by county sheriffs. Unless of course you have an occupational license, but the state doesn't license strippers.
You know its pretty bad when the club lets you take them home out the back door and manager asks me if I'm going to cover tipouts! LOL
I don't do it most of the time, but I can be generous once in a while...
I think for me, it's someone who I enjoy being around (the basics: practices good hygiene and isn't rude) and who is generous. That doesn't mean extravagant, just not clutching his wallet like it's the last remaining lifeboat at the sinking of the Titanic.
When I'm with an ideal customer, I never have to ask for anything... He offers a drink when he sees mine is empty and he asks for the dance(s) when he's ready ( or, we know each other well enough to both know when it's time).
During the dance, he's able to relax and enjoy himself and afterward he slips me a tip to show he appreciated my efforts to make sure he relaxed and enjoyed himself.
The ideal customer treats me like I treat him and we both walk away from the encounter feeling like it was time/money well spent.
As I write this, I realize how lucky I am to have so many ideal customers!! 🔆🧡🔆
👍🏼👌🏼👏🏼🤙🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼🤟🏼
Then again I restrict majority of my funds to dances so who knows. Maybe I'm just weird.
Also, dances are usually better when drinks are flowing and inhibitions are lowered... kind of a no brainer. Not sayin I'm gettin schnockered or anything, but a pleasant buzz is good for all! 🥂
Other dancers want a more interactive experience where drinking and conversation lead to fewer but more engaging dances. I for one is a customer who prefers the later. I am willing to spend the money but I want an experience that is more then physical.
However, I should add that I don't NEED drinks to give entertaining dances, but it's usually part of my day shift experience. I don't like to feel like I'm putting anyone out, so I prefer not to ask for anything. Hence, the auto refills if we're both enjoying beverages and some conversation before the culmination of our encounter.
If someone just wants a dance, that's just fine by me as well...at that point, the ideal remains that he's someone I enjoy being around and is generous.
And...this was all about what the ideal is... I don't refuse all others! 🤪
@EndlessSummer you cant go and first say your ideal customer treats you to a drink without provocation. Then suddenly say hes fine not to order you one. Your creating confusing points here. And nowhere is it socially considerate to just automatically order someone a drink without asking. That's entirely individual perspective and in some settings may get a man slapped or covered with said drink. I'd refer to that unconventional (since most people ask before doing) and bizarro stripper world is all about unconventional.....so never mind keep up your perspective. It fits strip club rules and regulations 😂
Also I didnt mention anything about you "slamming shots". Not sure where that came from
Drunk at home, so my opinion doesn’t count at this moment. At least i got my shooting berm set up in
My back yard. Gonna teach my kids how to be expert marksmen. Gonna wait until I’m sober.
Yesterday my ATF DS and I were sitting together and she said to another regular at the bar that she "loves" me and that I'm the best.
If I'm not an ideal customer I dunno why strippers, old and new, want to sit and let me feel them up - I mean massage them - with my boner poking their ass for at most a drink and then give me a deal on dances. It happens just about ever club visit now. 🤷🤗
This has been the case for a long time, my ATF complained about them when she was still dancing.
The track seems to attract a lot of them for whatever reason, so maybe it's just the higher concentrations that bring them out.
Most of the guys here want to spend their money, and not get scammed in the process. I think that there's a fair number of us who don't see dancers as adversaries or "the enemy", even if what we want is not always aligned with what a dancer wants.
But there's also guys here (scpandit) who can die in a fire.
I tried to read down the whole thread again, but you can just guess at what it said and save yourself the time. The "hell" quote was interesting because what came to mind is "there's a sucker born every minute". People suck at cooking fries and still have jobs. If the dancer whose ill received comment kicked off the thread gets a rise out of dudes some of them will spend on her.
Example a dancer that works 5 to 6 days a week, doesn’t get strung out, loves to make money, learns to play and understand the game, will do outstanding in this business.
Many new dancers think that we are walking ATM’s, that never saw pussy before, and will empty our pockets on the first bomber that stops by.... some may many more will not.
Looks, hygiene, and a sensual tease also score points........
The best skill they need to sharpen, is how to determine a spender from a miser in under 5 minutes. Don’t spend all night to figure out a guy is cheap. But just because a guy only tips a buck, don’t immediately blow them off.
Once you find the spenders, learn to juggle them so you can keep them all happy.
I am a filthy pig, and brutally rough pervert - but I am an ideal strip club customer. I know this because I know whores love my money.