To LDK or not to LDK?
GhostOfHell
New York City
Since joining I have read some about LDK. Is this the goal? Is this good or bad? Is it in private only or out in the open? Are some dancers into LDK? Or just put up with that part off the job? Cleanup? I love lap dances. I've been a monger of LDs since my late 20s in 2003. I love strippers and lap dances. As long as I'm attracted to the dancer and she gives a good grind allowing me to get erect I can get dances all night. Usually in the first dance I can tell if a dancer is going to be my type of dancer sometimes it takes the second song. And she has to seem like she is at least half way into dancing for me. If I notice she is looking far off wondering if she left the stove on I will tap out in the middle of a dance, pay her and look for another dancer. Oh I realize it is all fantasy yet it is such a turn on if the dancer seems like she is into it as much as I am. They are paid for their time and often tipped. But I have never been a LDK and not sure if I want to be. And when I mean I can get dances all night I'm talking 5 to 10 continuous dances at a time, have a drink and ready for more. Sometimes one dancer for the night sometimes a few dancers. It doesn't matter if it's just a great grind or two way high mileage touching I just won't cum. When I wake up the next morning I masturbate and cum like mad man thinking of the night before. Lately one dancer asked me if I was going to cum yet during the 2nd song looking at me as if I should have and she had other people to see. Another recent dancer told me during the 4th song that she needed to take a break leaving me fully erect ,I though she would come back, 10 minutes later she was working the room ignoring me. Last month was the first time that has happened to me. Both of these dancers seemed to be 19-24 years old if that makes any difference these days. I'm clean, always take a shower before I go out and have been told I am relatively good looking. Is there something wrong with me?
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I actually wish I could go all night on a great grind with high mileage and not LDK sometimes but alas... I’m just a PL.
If it's a club with high contact lap dances and very expensive extras then I usually go for LDK instead.
I used to be like you OP and get dance after dance being highly stimulated but always stop myself from going past the point. Till one day having dances with a sexy ass asian at Treasures in Vegas and just couldn't hold out any longer. That first time LDK felt so good! And two of my fears about LDKing before then luckily went my way. 1) The dancer didn't totally berate me in disgust like I always thought would happen. Instead, she acted as though she expected that result, even knew when to stop dancing. I guess I got lucky because there are plenty of dancers out there who I'm sure would have the reaction I feared. 2) There was no big, visible, wet spot in my crotch. When I went to the bathroom after the dance I found that my cotton boxers had soaked up most of the mess and prevented it from reaching my slacks for the most part. I didn't mind the mess in my shorts because I had a nice buzz going from my drinks. I decided from that point on I'd LDK every time.
At first it wasn't all that fun because after an LDK you feel so satisfied that you want to leave the club. Sometimes that could mean a short visit and I usually like to spend a lot of time in the club. So nowadays my MO is to have that first inevitable LDK early on. Then try out dances with some other girls my preference to let them get me worked up again. Then finally end with the best of those girls for LDK #2.
I was only able to LDK after my first nude fully lap dance but since then nothing, zilch, nada.
This, I am forced to resort to going FS VIP.
You must be a better (go to) sleeper than I.
If I had a dozen or more lap dances, was aroused as fuck, I wouldn't be waiting until next morning for happy times.
Preparation, context, intent ...
1. Be prepared: wear darker, smooth-fabric pants (f.e. Haggar "Cool 18 Pro" slacks; not jeans!), no belt, only one layer of button-down shirt (no undershirt) because if it's button-down then it's also unbutton-down; a smooth stretchy pair of underpants, or go commando no underpants; and (if this is anywhere within your kinks) pre-adorn mister Willie with a condom, lubricated on the inside. Seriously, life-changer. :)
2. Context: some clubs are full-service clubs, where achieving only a high-priced LDK is a disappointment rather than a laudable accomplishment. Other clubs are understaffed for hotties, so figuring out how to get an LDK with the best of the bunch is in itself probably the most sexual service you're going to get in that location on that evening. Some dancers are excellent at mimicking a highly intimate interpersonal dance in such a way that the stick-shifting which gets performed during that dance can indeed be a deliberate quest for causing you to LDK; whereas, some dancers think they're there to be looked at, so, even at a higher-mileage higher-contact club, they will back away from you to pose and be all frivolously princessy at exactly the wrong moment. Eschew frivolous posing princesses and all other girls with Golden Pussy Syndrome, but, if you think they're hot enough, you can instead educated them, in order to turn them into stick-shifters of the best variety.
3. Intent: don't want one? Don't try to get one. Then if she does make you LDK, it's all the more pleasurable since you got more than expected and without your own effort involved. Do want one? Well duh, then, look at items 1 and 2 here in this list and be prepared and in the right context.
Position can make a big difference. A stroke down the leg can work, or cowboy against upward position. Try them all. Don't be embarrassed to say "give me a moment to adjust myself."
Sometimes it just happens. Sometimes the dancer helps it happen. In that case, I add a tip.
And sometimes I just want a bit of arousal and no LDK.
Many dancers asked me after 2 or 3 dances did you come. I say no. It takes time for me to LDK. Usually I dont do LDK I can go all night with dances. Exceptional cases like a dancer with all natural DD tits allow me to squeeze and same time she has good ass .it depends on the girl.
Recently one girl giving me hot dance we were in cuddling position. I was rock hard. Heater expression during dance was speechless. After 2 dancers she said 2 dances I asked for one more she wasn't happy and said I need to go. She didnt even allow me to squeeze the tits but she was pretty and gor hot body.
Sometime they think they are gettinf into us. Not sure.
Dancers see customers who LDK in 2 or 3 songs. It's very rare they see guys who dont LDK in 2 or 3 songs
OP says he can usually get 5-10 dances or even more with heavy two way contact and still not cum. That's totally believable for me, since I used to be the same way. I could do VIP after VIP without cumming. Usually I'd just hold back if I was getting too excited. However after one session where I was tired of holding back I just gave in and exploded in my pants. It felt so good that ever since then I just don't hold back anymore. I find it a lot more enjoyable, despite the mess in my underwear.
Some guys say they just can't LDK no matter how hard they're trying. I think those folks can't be aroused enough by mere clothed grinding. Some folks, like myself, can. Nothing wrong with either. Enjoy your club visits the best way you can and it is what it is.
Several dancers told me most of the custies cum in 2 to 3 songs. It's rare if you cant come even after 6 or 7 songs nonstop even if you hold it.
Yes, LDK is the goal. And why not? You get the joy of cumming in your pants and get some laughs when people criticize you for wanting to cum in your pants.
Seriously though, I can see why a lot of folks say LDK = brilliant. If you’re married or in an LTR it isn’t really cheating to keep your dick in your pants but cum. And even if you aren’t in a serious LTR who doesn’t like to cum?
Second, you might want to consider using paragraphs. Or better yet, just short and sweet declarative sentences with lots of space. If you make your posts hard to read nobody will want to invite you to the Algonquin kiddy table! ;)
I have other options now.
It is only a fall-back or, occasionally, an accident while in pursuit of the Holy Grail:
a full service, deep pussy desploogination.
Other fall backs include:
* bare backed vulva-pussy rub & desploogination
* bare backed cum in mouth BJ
* bare backed cum on face or tits BJ
* condom BJ
* slow, loving hand job
* a one-handed Jiffy Lube Express hand job while she uses her other hand to play with her cellphone.
Fun is the goal.
4Got2Wipe said "If you’re married or in an LTR it isn’t really cheating to keep your dick in your pants but cum."
If it's something you can't tell your wife / girlfriend about without getting in deep shit... it's cheating.
Without the splitting of hairs, if you're with someone who isn't your SO having sexy time and you know you're fucked if you're SO finds out, you're cheating.
A lot of guys go through the mental contortions to convince themselves otherwise, but they know (deep down) that cheating is not dependent on inserting Tab A into Slot B.