In the future do you think we will see stripping become more career oriented
Muddy
USA
I might lose everyone with this one but fuck it let me give it a shot. It recent years it seems like there is less of a stigma to being a stripper/sex type worker seems to have worn off some. Recent movies like Flashdance, Pretty Woman, Leaving Las Vegas, The Wrestler and the Magic Mike’s have put workers in the sex industry more in the every(wo)man light. Then you also have this garbage southern rap today but it is popular where the strip clubs are the platforms for that horrible music. We’ve come a long way since the 1920’s where it was out of the question to have too much ankle showing at the beach. As we approach the 2020’s I know multiple grandmas that stripped at one point.
Is it possible we can one day see it be a major at Arizona State, how to stay shape, how to sell yourself, what good customer service is and how to keep them coming back for more. I can see it now. Because to me, If you told me there was a job where you can pull 2 grand a week give or take, working 2 nights on a weekend to ME that is career worth pursuing, who wouldn’t sign up for that? I know can’t do that, can you?
I was talking to the CF and she stated “No way am I dancing past 25!” Why the fuck not? What the fuck else are you gonna be doing? Don’t think for a second your gonna be making this money. Kiss it goodbye, showing whenever the fuck you want, working part time hours leaving with hundreds. Don’t give me this once she hits 30 it’s over, they just gotta exercise, otherwise your body is gonna betray you. I look at like this, being a soldier myself. No soldier thinks they are gonna be doing this stuff at 55 or 60, rucking carrying all this fucking heavy shit, falling on hard rocks when training a night, fuck no. We plan for a second career after the service. That’s what dancers should be doing. But there is a solid 15 years where they could be getting it done. Then what they are 33,34 that it still young as fuck in the buisness world.
The reason I’m thinking this is because this industry is not being given a fair shake, look at all the other careers that have terrible outlooks, if how much of my paycheck I drop at the strip club every weekend is any indication, then being a stripper will be a thriving industry for a very long time.
TL;DR if you want to make dancing a career you go girl. Say that shit loud and proud to your high school guidance counselor.
Is it possible we can one day see it be a major at Arizona State, how to stay shape, how to sell yourself, what good customer service is and how to keep them coming back for more. I can see it now. Because to me, If you told me there was a job where you can pull 2 grand a week give or take, working 2 nights on a weekend to ME that is career worth pursuing, who wouldn’t sign up for that? I know can’t do that, can you?
I was talking to the CF and she stated “No way am I dancing past 25!” Why the fuck not? What the fuck else are you gonna be doing? Don’t think for a second your gonna be making this money. Kiss it goodbye, showing whenever the fuck you want, working part time hours leaving with hundreds. Don’t give me this once she hits 30 it’s over, they just gotta exercise, otherwise your body is gonna betray you. I look at like this, being a soldier myself. No soldier thinks they are gonna be doing this stuff at 55 or 60, rucking carrying all this fucking heavy shit, falling on hard rocks when training a night, fuck no. We plan for a second career after the service. That’s what dancers should be doing. But there is a solid 15 years where they could be getting it done. Then what they are 33,34 that it still young as fuck in the buisness world.
The reason I’m thinking this is because this industry is not being given a fair shake, look at all the other careers that have terrible outlooks, if how much of my paycheck I drop at the strip club every weekend is any indication, then being a stripper will be a thriving industry for a very long time.
TL;DR if you want to make dancing a career you go girl. Say that shit loud and proud to your high school guidance counselor.
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I don't think it'd end up being a college course, but I have a number of (non-stripper) friends who are getting into pole dance classes - it's obviously not the same thing, but stuff like that chips away more and more at the stigma against it.
If various prudish interests don't regulate it into oblivion, I can see it becoming more and more popular as a job - but I also see the service levels we're used to going down, and not in the good way.
its too easy to burnout from stripping
April9424
Everywhere
SEPTEMBER 26, 2018
"didn't read, but i'm sick of all these girls saying they want to "normalize" and "destigmatize" stripping and other forms of sex work. if being a stripper were as normal to society as being a barista, we'd be making as much money as a barista. i'll take my stripper money and the stigma that comes with it."
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If university offered a degree - the salary will come down to that of a PhD in Psychology - so still about $2K a week. But 40 hours a week, 4 years of school.
Interesting concept. Will you be one of the professors ? I'd sure hope Papi joins the faculty too
But I agree. If one takes care of herself well, then she can be dancing for many years to come.
If stripping were taught at college then the girls would all likely prefer a Hooters-with-a-pole type setting - "hands off, pervert, I have a degree!". I can hear it now... fuck that lol.
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And nobody should bat an eye. For better or worse.
No. Not possible in the foreseeable future.
A slightly lessened stigma is far from the same as no stigma. As one of too many examples to count, I remember a former fav telling me about a problem she ran into with respect to her daughter. Apparently the Dad of one of her daughter's best friends came to the club that night and saw the fav dancing on stage. He played it cool ITC, but the very next day his child told the dancer's daughter that she could no longer be her firned. The two kids in question were in first grade. Now before we launch into some condemnation of the guy, ask yourself this: Would you let your own elementary school daughter hang out at a stripper's house? Right or wrong, many parents would have had the same reaction.
Real life isn't a music video. Most parents are still very sensitive to what their kids are exposed to, which makes it hard for strippers to integrate their children into normal life situations. Add to that the bible thumpers, feminazis and many other groups who disapprove for one reason or another and what we have is a sizable contingent of everyday society who will still look sideways at stripping as a profession.
Now are there strippers who have built good lives from stripping? For sure, but that has come with a lot of trade-offs. It is far more common IME for strippers to dance until their desire to integrate back into the vanilla world is stronger than the call of dancing, at which point they hang up their heels, take vanilla jobs and try to build normal lives.
Besides the example Rick cited I saw something the other day where a woman wasn't sure what to do with the gap in her work history and decided to play it honest and put exotic dancer as her occupation. She ended up not getting hired by any of the local hospitals despite the fact she had decent grades and they were looking for people. Worse once word got out ( and HR Directors do network) she was basically done.
Outside of Vegas where it seems the stigma isn't as bad a dancer is going to run into brick wall after brick wall trying to have a career fully dressed.
It's not fair. But that doesn't change how these job choices can stick to you.
Well she's in Vegas now dancing and for the most part she found out people are judgemental and some secrets can never stay secret.
Truely a case example that you can in some instances never go home again.
I knew two summers ago the veil was starting to drop and the truth was starting to leak out but I couldn't convince her. I haven't dated her in over 18 months but I do hear from her when she's down and out. I'm pretty sure at this point even her family knows, even if they don't come out and confront her or ask.
I felt badly, but to a very limited degree. The company where we worked was perhaps 10 minutes away from the Foxy Lady.
What? Dude, are you just trolling now? How long have you been out of the workforce?
Standard corporate background checks are generally limited to criminal record checks, credit checks (in some but not all instances) and contacting a few work references. If you work in a bank, brokerage firm, with children or in other sensitive positions, a fingerprint is often also be required (criminal records checks are often imperfect and do not pick up all arrests) . And yes, some will go the extra mile and run a search for publicly available social media information. If you are driving as part of your job, then the employer may also request DMV records. A dancer who has been doing it right should not pop on any of these.
I have never heard of anyone using a facial recognition program and I actively interact with a variety of HR functions in several firms. in a sensitive industry. You may be watching too much Sci Fi channel programming. I could see it for jobs requiring government security clearances, but cannot imagine it is coming anytime soon for everyday corporate hiring.
The words of an epitaph found on many a dancers professional career.
In fact, two of my current favorites also have day jobs as well, both with a certain level of responsibility and both of them had to get through standard corporate background checks. A couple of other girls I deal with bounce between dancing and vanilla work at will as the spirit takes them.
Normally the issue is IG but the problem goes a step beyond their page to their friends or even their friends of friends page.
If your four closest friends all work at a strip club, two of your male contacts are bartenders or club managers, and a handful of your clients follow you and 100 other girls guess what?
And your picture shows up on their feed no matter what setting you might have on your account.....which then brings in Google as well as even YouTube. I hate to use the phrase trust me but on this one the comment I made about six degrees of separation hits home and the more the weeks turn into months and the months turn into years the harder it becomes to lead a double life.
The few dancers I know well as friends ( and I do mean friends) work three or four nights a week. Over time they all have a tolerance to liquor that they can drink me under the table-takes about two years of working as a dancer to build up that type of tolerance but it also means they are not getting up the next day to go to school for class or work in a corporate job.
And from what I have observed first hand the longer they dance the more they get pulled into that world as well. Their circle of friends tend to be other dancers or club workers. If the club is large enough they date other staff members or at the very least people the other staff workers know because civilians for lack of a better term don''t think like they do and don't understand the lifestyle.
I'm sure there are exceptions and maybe you know a few but overall from my own experience it takes about a year before the shift in life choices starts to take hold permanently. After that it is like quicksand.
IME where girls most often trip up is by making some choice that results in a criminal record. Sometimes it happens simply through overzealous local PD coming into a club and writing a summons for every girl who shows too much titty or gets too cozy during a LD. Other times it involves the girl going just a little too far with some behavior and substance abuse and getting arrested. Once they have a criminal record, it becomes much harder to get out.
There is a stigma attached to it but that stigma is there cos of society's perceived norms and religion, not because there's anything wrong with dancers.
At first I thought this was a post about Asians when I saw "oriented". :)