I've seen her a few times and everything else is available but not her pussy. Should I let this one go or is there something I can do so we both get what we want?
Usually slowly go for it she will let you know if she doesnt want you to by moving your hand to a different place. But you can always test it out dont be going all crazy right away lol
Some allow it because they are ovulating or ugly; I don't want to mess anything up with a new girl and don't want to dig myself into a hole only to realize that she's used to me not touching her pussy.
Offer a tip for what you want, if you wanting to touch it is worth more to you than the value she places on not being touched you can come to an arrangement. Otherwise tdhere are plenty of other dancers who value money above all else.
1. Spend a little more than the bare minimum for the service you want. Tip really well. 2. See the same dancer for a few weeks in a row. 3. After a few visits ask the dancer what her boundaries are. 4. If she says no to something you want ask if that is a hard no or an occasional light touch is fine.
Have you took her to VIP and try? In my experience with the ones that would allow, they'd prefer it not happen on the main floor, but were okay with it in VIP. Some just won't let you touch irregardless of main floor or VIP.
i will give you my input because you seem legit after reading your reviews.
you are walking on thin ice, you already got banned from 1 club being super aggressive. im not saying your antics are wrong but you dont spend enough for them to put up with your antics. it looks like youre on a budget like most of here, so heres my advice.
I personally dont negotiate with strippers, i will give x to do x with you. i will say, if you are getting DFK in the back room FIV is available. Dont push the envelope though, you already got banned once. just let shit happen, when you are having a good time dont save it for next time. Go all in.
@25 what I meant is that for a lot of these men, strip clubs are the only time they interact with women and don't get rejected, since they're paying for the fantasy of women paying attention to them.
I'll rephrase it most men who frequent strip clubs can't touch pussy very often.
Some dancers have specific limits. It’s possible this is one of hers.
However, there are two things I’d try (if you really want her pussy). If it’s been a no go in a lap dance area, I’d ask if she will allow more in VIP/champagne. If she isn’t - I’d move on. You could also ask before going for lap dances - to see if she might want more $$$?
I just read the review where he got banned mmmmmmmmm getting banned from Palomino??? Yeah it sounds like there was more to it. They wouldn't ban you for just that unless you've been bothering a few girls.
>what I meant is that for a lot of these men, strip clubs are the only time they interact with women and don't get rejected, since they're paying for the fantasy of women paying attention to them.< I don't know that to be true, I interact with many women, in and out of clubs don't get rejected very often, and many of the members here that I have met are decent looking guys with more than a few bucks in their pockets, can't imagine that they wouldn't do just fine in any environment, more likely they aren't interested in putting in the time to create a relationship, but the strip club is good for creating an instant if temporary relationship, and when they leave they don't have to do anything else.
Speaking only for myself, I don't really approach women younger than 30 something, and my GF is a smoking hot 37 year old woman, who looks better than 97% of any women I see in a strip club of any age, she doesn't use foul language generally, is quite intelligent, an entrepreneur, like myself, reasonably successful (makes more money than most strippers) and carries herself well.
Liwet, just be generous with her, to show good intent, and treat her in a completely civilian manner. Never act like she sells sex. Just get to know her, and the front room is best.
Front room makeout session, buying dances is for chumps.
I rarely do pussy touching and if a girl is very open to that check her cleanliness. LFK, DFK, and even BBBJ are hell of a lot lower risk for girls than FIV as many of the guys who come into the club dont wash thier hands let alone take a shower/use deodorant
That being said, I asssume if you get a girl who's comfortable with reaching her hand in to give you a HJ trying to FIV should be easy. Some will slap you away, but its hard for them to get angry if they are giving you a handshake
If they give me the Cuban handshake, I normally try to return the favor. I was at Follies on Wednesday, and a girl straight up told me that I could touch it if I wanted to.
For those wondering, I'm not seeking FIV; at the minimum I just want one finger across the front of her panties, including some light friction across her clitoris.
I had an issue with 2 girls at the Palomino; the first one was disrespect or not spending enough money or something (part of the reason I kept chasing was because I wanted to know how I pissed her off). She did go up to the VIP room area with me once but wanted payment upfront which I refused and she ignored me ever since.
I don't know a single dancer who wouldnt show her pussy or just let a guy brush up against it for a tip if he is even semi normal , so...................
Some girls will let you touch a little but don't want continual touching down-there - i.e. often times dancers get pissed when a custy insists and continues to do something she doesn't like.
Subraman's "direct approach" is probable best - i.e. he's often posted the best way is to just ask for permission rather than jump right in - and that's probably the best-way to go - I tend to move in slowly to let her know my intentions - if she moves my hand away then I accept her preference - some dancers realize that often times the more you let a custy do the more he will spend (buy more dances or tip more), but that's not necessarily always the case but it is for me; i.e. if I feel a dancer goes above and beyond the typical dance then I try to go above and beyond the typical payment including wanting to get extra-dances.
Treat her in a civilian manner, just like you would any other woman, and you can be kissing her, feeling her up, and petting her in the strip club, most of the time, and then waking up with her the next morning, very often.
I like to ask if I can see her kitty, being playful asking to see it a few times, then shyly ask if I can pet the kitty, if she says yes I don't touch it right away and hopefully she leads my hand to the promised land all the while making it seem like her idea.
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2. See the same dancer for a few weeks in a row.
3. After a few visits ask the dancer what her boundaries are.
4. If she says no to something you want ask if that is a hard no or an occasional light touch is fine.
It's a near certainty that it won't be the most explicit conversation she has ever had.
>its a big deal cos most men who go to strip clubs don't touch pussy very often.<
I’ll bet most men who don’t go to strip clubs don’t touch pussy very often either.
you are walking on thin ice, you already got banned from 1 club being super aggressive. im not saying your antics are wrong but you dont spend enough for them to put up with your antics. it looks like youre on a budget like most of here, so heres my advice.
I personally dont negotiate with strippers, i will give x to do x with you. i will say, if you are getting DFK in the back room FIV is available. Dont push the envelope though, you already got banned once. just let shit happen, when you are having a good time dont save it for next time. Go all in.
I'll rephrase it most men who frequent strip clubs can't touch pussy very often.
However, there are two things I’d try (if you really want her pussy). If it’s been a no go in a lap dance area, I’d ask if she will allow more in VIP/champagne. If she isn’t - I’d move on. You could also ask before going for lap dances - to see if she might want more $$$?
>what I meant is that for a lot of these men, strip clubs are the only time they interact with women and don't get rejected, since they're paying for the fantasy of women paying attention to them.<
I don't know that to be true, I interact with many women, in and out of clubs don't get rejected very often, and many of the members here that I have met are decent looking guys with more than a few bucks in their pockets, can't imagine that they wouldn't do just fine in any environment, more likely they aren't interested in putting in the time to create a relationship, but the strip club is good for creating an instant if temporary relationship, and when they leave they don't have to do anything else.
Speaking only for myself, I don't really approach women younger than 30 something, and my GF is a smoking hot 37 year old woman, who looks better than 97% of any women I see in a strip club of any age, she doesn't use foul language generally, is quite intelligent, an entrepreneur, like myself, reasonably successful (makes more money than most strippers) and carries herself well.
Front room makeout session, buying dances is for chumps.
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That being said, I asssume if you get a girl who's comfortable with reaching her hand in to give you a HJ trying to FIV should be easy. Some will slap you away, but its hard for them to get angry if they are giving you a handshake
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I had an issue with 2 girls at the Palomino; the first one was disrespect or not spending enough money or something (part of the reason I kept chasing was because I wanted to know how I pissed her off). She did go up to the VIP room area with me once but wanted payment upfront which I refused and she ignored me ever since.
i think its your approach though. you need to play it cool especially if youre a regular.
Hopefully you can find a new location to monger - where you can find the action you desire. If these are Vegas clubs, they must be expensive.
Subraman's "direct approach" is probable best - i.e. he's often posted the best way is to just ask for permission rather than jump right in - and that's probably the best-way to go - I tend to move in slowly to let her know my intentions - if she moves my hand away then I accept her preference - some dancers realize that often times the more you let a custy do the more he will spend (buy more dances or tip more), but that's not necessarily always the case but it is for me; i.e. if I feel a dancer goes above and beyond the typical dance then I try to go above and beyond the typical payment including wanting to get extra-dances.
but I think Liwet's problem has to be deeper
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