I said yes for arnies and polekatz. That review of al's goldmine was a "free vip" review. Not sure if paradizio reviewer was saying his review was 2 years old or not. Didnt pick one or the other.
I'm glad you listened to some of our feedback and implemented a new feature. Can't say how smoothly this feature will work out but I look forward to the honor system
Not sure how this is intended to work and if it will work.
I think it was Dolfan whom suggested a "like" type feature.
I think reviews should be published but have a "thumbs up" "thumbs down" type feature or similar to Amazon have a "was this review helpful" - VIP should be withheld for maybe 48 hours from posting to give the community a chance to view and vote
I'm going to need more information on how this will work. Am I going to be expected to read every review submitted to TUSCL? or will I have a choice on whether to review it or not? I don't want to read a bunch of reviews on clubs that I am not interested in.
It's not foolproof but def an improvement - i.e. there may be some good, or bad, reviews, that may not get any votes b/c no one was interested enough to read it b/c it's not a club of interest or maybe the few that read it didn't bother to vote - what happens to no/zero vote reviews?
Would be cool if there was some sort of up-vote or down-vote for discussion topics. Gives the community some control over what rises to the top based on popularity rather than most recent post (a feature that is sometimes abused by trolls and the occasional attention whore).
I am skeptical over troll accounts that will try to screw over some of our members from ever getting their reviews published (even when it's a high quality review)
At the risk of complicating things in necessarily could you @founder give us some feedback on our roles as proctors at regular intervals to let us know if we are performing the way you hoped.
Hmm?? So how do reviews get reviewed and posted now? Is it just you, Founder, who does it? I've done one almost monthly since 2002. Does that make me a VIP? LOL! #ibetterbrushuponmywritingskills
Founder made this board for us (and for $). I personally like that he has given us the ability to govern ourselves. This takes it a bit further. I like it.
Plus it takes him out of the loop so it isn't a time suck for him and he doesn't have to hear our complaints.
good idea. If you look at the rationale for recommending for or against publication, you might be able to extract some general community guidelines for acceptable (and unacceptable) content for a review.
For me, the review should describe the club, the entertainers and the customer experience in sufficient detail that I would know what to expect. Also, it should NOT link specific dancer names with specific activities that could get the dancer (or the club) in trouble.
Don't like the format for reviewing - it needs to list all the reviews that require vetting - I don't wanna be reading/vetting reviews that don't interest me. List of reviews needing vetting should be shown in short and long formats. My 2 cents.
Will all reviews require to be voted-on/vetted?
Also don't think it's a good idea for the vetter's name to appear in order to avoid a back and forth flame war.
"Also don't think it's a good idea for the vetter's name to appear in order to avoid a back and forth flame war."
If the same members are downvoting valid reviews just because, they won't be hard to spot. Maybe there will be a way to revoke the vote privilege for those who abuse it. When I took a look yesterday I only voted for one to test the feature, but all if them looked ok. Didn't see the two line one that got mentioned.
In the daily reviews I see a list of reviews and a separate option for vetting a review - I don't see how I can pick the specific review I wanna vet (when I click on "unpublished reviews" seems a random review comes up for vetting) - i.e. by vetting a specific review I wanna read I'm killing two birds with one stone and this provides higher vetting participation, IMO.
If there are any reviews submitted that have not received 3 votes up or down, they will be sitting there for vetting. I've voted on several today, and have seen more than one at a time if there was more than one waiting.
"I think reviews should be published but have a "thumbs up" "thumbs down" type feature or similar to Amazon have a "was this review helpful"
"Don't like the format for reviewing - it needs to list all the reviews that require vetting - I don't wanna be reading/vetting reviews that don't interest me. List of reviews needing vetting should be shown in short and long formats"
"Is there a way that a vetter can pick which reviews to vet"
"I don't see how I can pick the specific review I wanna vet (when I click on "unpublished reviews" seems a random review comes up for vetting)"
People upload reviews. They all now get temporarily shown via a link at the top of the page that only VIP members can see and the typed reviews don't show who the submitter is or the 10 star rating system. Once the text contents of a review receives a certain amount of positive or negative votes (I'm guessing the number is 3), it is either permanently posted as a review with all the other star rankings and poster's name or it is scrubbed from the system.
As such, reviews that are permanently approved by the community will be published throughout the day instead of the usual way which was a wave of reviews getting published 3 or 4 times a day.
Yes! If the review is seen directly by clicking on the "Daily Reviews" link, without the ability to vote on it, it shows the poster's name and avatar and shows the star rating system, it has been uprooted by the community and is a permanent review.
Can we see some of the other metadata when we screen the reviews? Technically not required to make a decision, but if I'm reading the review anyway I might as well know if it was a friday night, if/how they answered the other questions, etc.
Also, just curious. Do you plan to re-review the ones reject?
Also, is it a simple count? Like if the threshold is 3, does that mean 3 total Yes votes, or 3 more yes's than no's?
And, could we get the feedback on any no votes even if the review is published? Maybe the yes votes too. Or put them in as the first comments maybe? Just thinking it may be useful to know if I got two complaints about some shitty aspect of my reviews even though they were still deemed "good enough" by others.
Founder said: "If a review is rejected, the author gets an email with the comments and who commented."
Perhaps scrub would be disappointed that the rejected reviewer would get only an email of the rejection and scrub is deprived of the opportunity to publicly shame the reviewer.
Founder, a suggestion if i may. Can you make it so we dont have to fill in the "why or why not" if i pick yes? I can only think of so many different reasons why it should be published.
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Is this going to be everyday?
Enjoy the power.
Keep in mind that the review author will see your comments and your nickname. Try to be civil.
I think it was Dolfan whom suggested a "like" type feature.
I think reviews should be published but have a "thumbs up" "thumbs down" type feature or similar to Amazon have a "was this review helpful" - VIP should be withheld for maybe 48 hours from posting to give the community a chance to view and vote
In any case, this seems like a good feature.
Daily Reviews --> Help us out and publish some Unpublished Reviews
Will be interesting to see how this experiment works out. Especially whether the voting members get any hate PMs if they downvote a review.
Plus it takes him out of the loop so it isn't a time suck for him and he doesn't have to hear our complaints.
Win-Win
For me, the review should describe the club, the entertainers and the customer experience in sufficient detail that I would know what to expect. Also, it should NOT link specific dancer names with specific activities that could get the dancer (or the club) in trouble.
Will all reviews require to be voted-on/vetted?
Also don't think it's a good idea for the vetter's name to appear in order to avoid a back and forth flame war.
And it's you're.
If the same members are downvoting valid reviews just because, they won't be hard to spot. Maybe there will be a way to revoke the vote privilege for those who abuse it. When I took a look yesterday I only voted for one to test the feature, but all if them looked ok. Didn't see the two line one that got mentioned.
Estafador, your reviews will eventually be acted upon, even if you think no one will read them.
I have been analyzing the rejected reviews and comments. I think the comments to the author will greatly increase the quality of reviews.
Thanks again for helping out.
Founder said: "I'm going to let VIP members decide the fate of reviews and free VIP time." and "It's for VIPs only."
Does this mean that only the paid VIPs get the vote or all VIPs (paid and free 30-dayers)?
They are not shown one at a time.
Is the list any given user sees comprised of all the reviews not yet adjudicated, or is it just a random sample?
In the daily reviews I see a list of reviews and a separate option for vetting a review - I don't see how I can pick the specific review I wanna vet (when I click on "unpublished reviews" seems a random review comes up for vetting) - i.e. by vetting a specific review I wanna read I'm killing two birds with one stone and this provides higher vetting participation, IMO.
"Don't like the format for reviewing - it needs to list all the reviews that require vetting - I don't wanna be reading/vetting reviews that don't interest me. List of reviews needing vetting should be shown in short and long formats"
"Is there a way that a vetter can pick which reviews to vet"
"I don't see how I can pick the specific review I wanna vet (when I click on "unpublished reviews" seems a random review comes up for vetting)"
Do you ever stop complaining?
People upload reviews. They all now get temporarily shown via a link at the top of the page that only VIP members can see and the typed reviews don't show who the submitter is or the 10 star rating system. Once the text contents of a review receives a certain amount of positive or negative votes (I'm guessing the number is 3), it is either permanently posted as a review with all the other star rankings and poster's name or it is scrubbed from the system.
As such, reviews that are permanently approved by the community will be published throughout the day instead of the usual way which was a wave of reviews getting published 3 or 4 times a day.
I guess I deserved to be patronized this time
Also, just curious. Do you plan to re-review the ones reject?
And, could we get the feedback on any no votes even if the review is published? Maybe the yes votes too. Or put them in as the first comments maybe? Just thinking it may be useful to know if I got two complaints about some shitty aspect of my reviews even though they were still deemed "good enough" by others.
Perhaps scrub would be disappointed that the rejected reviewer would get only an email of the rejection and scrub is deprived of the opportunity to publicly shame the reviewer.
Founder, a suggestion if i may. Can you make it so we dont have to fill in the "why or why not" if i pick yes? I can only think of so many different reasons why it should be published.
On smartphones, the yes/no text-box is too small and seems one can't scroll back to check for typos.