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Help us out... publish some reviews...

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this is for VIP members only.

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chessmaster

I said yes for arnies and polekatz. That review of al's goldmine was a "free vip" review. Not sure if paradizio reviewer was saying his review was 2 years old or not. Didnt pick one or the other.

Is this going to be everyday?

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founder

I'm going to let VIP members decide the fate of reviews and free VIP time.

Enjoy the power.

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lolruned

I'm glad you listened to some of our feedback and implemented a new feature. Can't say how smoothly this feature will work out but I look forward to the honor system

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rickdugan

Wow. I could get used to this.

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founder

I'm sure there will be tweaks.

Keep in mind that the review author will see your comments and your nickname. Try to be civil.

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Papi_Chulo

Not sure how this is intended to work and if it will work.

I think it was Dolfan whom suggested a "like" type feature.

I think reviews should be published but have a "thumbs up" "thumbs down" type feature or similar to Amazon have a "was this review helpful" - VIP should be withheld for maybe 48 hours from posting to give the community a chance to view and vote

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founder

A review will need a certain number of votes to be published or rejected. It's not based on one user's opinion.

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Papi_Chulo

How will this be done - parsing out a few reviews to specific TUSCLers? Or will all reviews be visible and vited on by all TUSCLers/VIPs?

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founder

It's for VIPs only

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chessmaster

Is this all reviews or only the ones initially rejected?

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founder

All reviews

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shadowcat

I'm going to need more information on how this will work. Am I going to be expected to read every review submitted to TUSCL? or will I have a choice on whether to review it or not? I don't want to read a bunch of reviews on clubs that I am not interested in.

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founder

Shadow... You don't need to do anything. A review needs just a few votes to be approved or rejected.

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Papi_Chulo

It's not foolproof but def an improvement - i.e. there may be some good, or bad, reviews, that may not get any votes b/c no one was interested enough to read it b/c it's not a club of interest or maybe the few that read it didn't bother to vote - what happens to no/zero vote reviews?

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Papi_Chulo

^ or low-vote reviews

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founder

I have that covered papi. But I don't think a review will sit too long without getting voted on.

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Call.Me.Ishmael

Would be cool if there was some sort of up-vote or down-vote for discussion topics. Gives the community some control over what rises to the top based on popularity rather than most recent post (a feature that is sometimes abused by trolls and the occasional attention whore).

In any case, this seems like a good feature.

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lolruned

I am skeptical over troll accounts that will try to screw over some of our members from ever getting their reviews published (even when it's a high quality review)

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founder

Most troll accounts aren't VIP.

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Corvus

Interesting concept

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Liwet

We get more VIP on top of what we already have right?

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Liwet

Also, I just realized that I have no way to access the unpublished reviews other than through this thread.

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rh48hr

I like the opportunity. I've already completed a couple of them.

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lolruned

"Also, I just realized that I have no way to access the unpublished reviews other than through this thread."

Daily Reviews --> Help us out and publish some Unpublished Reviews

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WillMunny

Power to the people?

Will be interesting to see how this experiment works out. Especially whether the voting members get any hate PMs if they downvote a review.

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alerius

I like this feature and already did a couple. I did notice that this thread is the only way I can access. That will be a problem I think.

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twentyfive

I gave it a try I’m a yes vote, let’s see how this works out.

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s275ironman

I just voted yes on a few reviews and now I see that they are already published.

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flagooner

^ Your opinion is so valuable that your vote carries the weight of 20 others.

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flagooner

This site has reviews?

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jackslash

I think this is a good feature. We could vote no on any reviews that are too explicit or promote prostitution.

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twentyfive

At the risk of complicating things in necessarily could you @founder give us some feedback on our roles as proctors at regular intervals to let us know if we are performing the way you hoped.

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sp

Hmm?? So how do reviews get reviewed and posted now? Is it just you, Founder, who does it? I've done one almost monthly since 2002. Does that make me a VIP? LOL! #ibetterbrushuponmywritingskills

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flagooner

Founder made this board for us (and for $). I personally like that he has given us the ability to govern ourselves. This takes it a bit further. I like it.

Plus it takes him out of the loop so it isn't a time suck for him and he doesn't have to hear our complaints.

Win-Win

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Estafador

Looks like I'll never be VIP again. I doubt the clubs I review get looked at

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flagooner

^ Win - Win - Win

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Estafador

....^ your an ass

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Electronman

good idea. If you look at the rationale for recommending for or against publication, you might be able to extract some general community guidelines for acceptable (and unacceptable) content for a review.

For me, the review should describe the club, the entertainers and the customer experience in sufficient detail that I would know what to expect. Also, it should NOT link specific dancer names with specific activities that could get the dancer (or the club) in trouble.

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Papi_Chulo

Don't like the format for reviewing - it needs to list all the reviews that require vetting - I don't wanna be reading/vetting reviews that don't interest me. List of reviews needing vetting should be shown in short and long formats. My 2 cents.

Will all reviews require to be voted-on/vetted?

Also don't think it's a good idea for the vetter's name to appear in order to avoid a back and forth flame war.

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flagooner

^^^ Moi?

And it's you're.

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wallanon

"Also don't think it's a good idea for the vetter's name to appear in order to avoid a back and forth flame war."

If the same members are downvoting valid reviews just because, they won't be hard to spot. Maybe there will be a way to revoke the vote privilege for those who abuse it. When I took a look yesterday I only voted for one to test the feature, but all if them looked ok. Didn't see the two line one that got mentioned.

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founder

Papi... You don't have to read any reviews. But you now have the option to.

Estafador, your reviews will eventually be acted upon, even if you think no one will read them.

I have been analyzing the rejected reviews and comments. I think the comments to the author will greatly increase the quality of reviews.

Thanks again for helping out.

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Dblednmike

So far I like it. To get to the unpublished reviews without this link go to daily reviews and there is a link at the top of that page.

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Papi_Chulo

Is there a way that a vetter can pick which reviews to vet - unless I'm confused it seems TUSCL picks them at random one at a time.

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DeclineToState

Interesting tweak.

Founder said: "I'm going to let VIP members decide the fate of reviews and free VIP time." and "It's for VIPs only."

Does this mean that only the paid VIPs get the vote or all VIPs (paid and free 30-dayers)?

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founder

All unpublished reviews are visible to all VIP members (unless you already voted on it or it's your own review)

They are not shown one at a time.

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twentyfive

^^^VIP is just that there doesn’t seem to be a separate category of VIPs.

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sinclair

Great improvement to the website. Thank you, founder.

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georgmicrodong

Nice idea. You’ll undoubtedly find things to tweak as the feature is used more.

Is the list any given user sees comprised of all the reviews not yet adjudicated, or is it just a random sample?

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founder

Gmd... It's all unpublished reviews

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Papi_Chulo

Confused.

In the daily reviews I see a list of reviews and a separate option for vetting a review - I don't see how I can pick the specific review I wanna vet (when I click on "unpublished reviews" seems a random review comes up for vetting) - i.e. by vetting a specific review I wanna read I'm killing two birds with one stone and this provides higher vetting participation, IMO.

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founder

Papi... If you're only seeing one review it means there is only one review in the queue.

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wallanon

If there are any reviews submitted that have not received 3 votes up or down, they will be sitting there for vetting. I've voted on several today, and have seen more than one at a time if there was more than one waiting.

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Papi_Chulo

So all the other reviews I see listed were already vetted, or are u only picking certain reviews for public vetting

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Papi_Chulo

e.g. - in today's list - Sensations in Jacksonville, was it already vetted? If not how can I vet it when I see it in the list.

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realDougster

"I think reviews should be published but have a "thumbs up" "thumbs down" type feature or similar to Amazon have a "was this review helpful"

"Don't like the format for reviewing - it needs to list all the reviews that require vetting - I don't wanna be reading/vetting reviews that don't interest me. List of reviews needing vetting should be shown in short and long formats"

"Is there a way that a vetter can pick which reviews to vet"

"I don't see how I can pick the specific review I wanna vet (when I click on "unpublished reviews" seems a random review comes up for vetting)"

Do you ever stop complaining?

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orangepicture

Papi, it's very simple.

People upload reviews. They all now get temporarily shown via a link at the top of the page that only VIP members can see and the typed reviews don't show who the submitter is or the 10 star rating system. Once the text contents of a review receives a certain amount of positive or negative votes (I'm guessing the number is 3), it is either permanently posted as a review with all the other star rankings and poster's name or it is scrubbed from the system.

As such, reviews that are permanently approved by the community will be published throughout the day instead of the usual way which was a wave of reviews getting published 3 or 4 times a day.

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founder

Thank you orangepicture. That's pretty much exactly the process.

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Papi_Chulo

So once one sees a new review posted that means it wss already vetted?

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orangepicture

Yes! If the review is seen directly by clicking on the "Daily Reviews" link, without the ability to vote on it, it shows the poster's name and avatar and shows the star rating system, it has been uprooted by the community and is a permanent review.

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orangepicture

^ "uprooted" should have been "upvoted". Stupid auto-correct.

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twentyfive

@founder where do we get to see the reviewers comments that you spoke of

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flagooner

Can some send Papi the latest edition of TUSCL for Dummies?

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Bj99

I like it. It would be even better if our votes were weighted by how trusted we are ;).

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Cashman1234

It’s a cool feature. I like it. I like the idea of us reviewing and voting on reviews. Thanks Founder!

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Jascoi

will the review author get the benefit of feedback of our opinions?

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Bj99

^ you want to be reviewed for your review of reviews?

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Bj99

Oh, or did you mean if you are a review author, you want to revive the comments members made when voting?

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founder

If a review is rejected, the author gets an email with the comments and who commented

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Jascoi

i’m missing the indian packers and movers... NOT!

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Papi_Chulo

@flag

I guess I deserved to be patronized this time

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Bj99

I wanna review discussion topics too!! ;P

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twentyfive

@founder out of curiosity if a revue is accepted does the reviewer get to see the voting tallies and a chance to up his game by seeing the comments?

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Dolfan

Can we see some of the other metadata when we screen the reviews? Technically not required to make a decision, but if I'm reading the review anyway I might as well know if it was a friday night, if/how they answered the other questions, etc.

Also, just curious. Do you plan to re-review the ones reject?

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Dolfan

Also, is it a simple count? Like if the threshold is 3, does that mean 3 total Yes votes, or 3 more yes's than no's?

And, could we get the feedback on any no votes even if the review is published? Maybe the yes votes too. Or put them in as the first comments maybe? Just thinking it may be useful to know if I got two complaints about some shitty aspect of my reviews even though they were still deemed "good enough" by others.

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jackslash

What happened to the top 40 lists? Just asking.

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founder

T40 lists will return. Just tweaking the algorithms.

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Papi_Chulo

Where are our pictures

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founder

What pictures?

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Papi_Chulo

I used to have a whole bunch of pics in my profile - since the top-40 lists are coming-back, so should pics in one's profile

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DeclineToState

Founder said: "If a review is rejected, the author gets an email with the comments and who commented."

Perhaps scrub would be disappointed that the rejected reviewer would get only an email of the rejection and scrub is deprived of the opportunity to publicly shame the reviewer.

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chessmaster

^lol

Founder, a suggestion if i may. Can you make it so we dont have to fill in the "why or why not" if i pick yes? I can only think of so many different reasons why it should be published.

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flagooner

The system seems to be working. I submitted an obviously unacceptable review and it was promptly turned down.

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Papi_Chulo

^ what a dick - wasting our resources for his amusement

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goosman

I like it. Keeps out the riff raff.

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Papi_Chulo

There should be a quick view to make it easier to scroll multiple reviews (and the star ratings along with time of visit should be displayed).

On smartphones, the yes/no text-box is too small and seems one can't scroll back to check for typos.

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Mate27

I got my review approved in 5 minutes! Is this because members are in charge of voting it in?

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twentyfive

^^^I didn’t see it I’d have voted no just to fuck with you;)

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flagooner

Does Papi leave a 5 page explanation for his vote?

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WillMunny

So will there be a permanent link for unpublished reviews added, or do we have to bookmark or dig up this thread?

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georgmicrodong

There’s a link at the top of the Daily Reviews Page.

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