Turned down a handy from a 9
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At Baby Dolls Dallas on Monday night, I was approached by an absolutely gorgeous, tall, dark-haired/dark-eyed dancer while I was scoping out the scene having a beer--best looker I had seen so far with a really nice rack. She had an accent and I asked where she was from--"Cuba." I had heard to watch out for the Cubans, and we had a little language barrier, but this girl was too good to pass up. She asked if I was ready for a dance: LET'S GO! She took my hand and led me upstairs to the chairs left of the bar (most girls seem to prefer this area upstairs). I was so entranced I don't even remember her name.
First song begins and I am in love, this chick knows how to move. She alternates between tits in face/mouth, and backwards dick grind effortlessly. I have a raging boner. As we continue, she takes my hands and puts them where she wants them, including inside her g-string for kitty play. She is gear shifting like a MOFO. Some random dude 25 feet away at the bar is snaking us as I am trying to decide if I am dreaming. Every so often she goes down to her knees to rub her face and amazing tits on my bulge, this is the closest to LDK I have known and up until then I didn't think that was something I would ever actually do.
Finally a few songs in, she goes to her knees again, smiles, and puts her her arm up one leg of my shorts to grip my boner. She starts stroking it and says something to the effect of "$100, you cum?" After a few seconds, I told her I didn't want to do that right then. She kept going, trying to be more persuasive. She asked again, but when I told her no and I would take care of it later (I club commando and didn't want the night to end so quickly with jizz-soaked shorts) I could see the air go out of her sails. I said, "Don't be mad, you can keep dancing," but I felt like the mood had changed.
I got her back up on my lap with the promise of a tip for more pussy play. After 5 songs, she insisted that it had been 7 and I cut her off. When I stood up to pay her, she looked at my crotch and said "You cum! $100!" I looked down to see two small pre-cum spots on my shorts and protested "NOOOOO, I didn't finish that is nothing." ROB disagreed saying I owed her $100 on top of her over-counted 7 songs.
Lesson learned. I payed her the $140 for 7 songs (that didn't happen) plus another $20 tip just because I didn't want more drama.
What would you do? Accept the handy? Negotiate the handy? Put the ROB in her place after she over-counted?
After all that, this PL will probably look for her next time because she was that good.
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Why? Because she tried to pick my pockets by trying to overcharge songs.
I understand some guys are in the position that $20 or $40 extra is no big deal. But to me it is. $20 is like an hour of work to me. The dancer can take the $10" and deal with it.
What's a fair price for a HJ? $20 by a street walker on street. ITC? I go by Chili Palmer's rule because his method hasn't let me down. He is tip schedule of $10/$20/$40 where $40 dollars is the asshole tax. And cumming triggers the asshole tax. So I'd tip $40 unless CP says I'm wrong. The dude CP is like Yoda Jedi Monger, er Master.
I probably would have cut it short after she started aggressively pushing a handy. Once a dancer starts asking for money in large increments, that's a pretty clear signal to take your leave unless maybe what she's offering is what you're seeking.
I would avoid this ROB on general principle because if she got away with these shenanigans she'll try again next time. If you can't get over her and want to try again, make sure that you're clear with her when the song ends. Say this is a new song? If she says yes, then say Round 2 then. And repeat this for every song when it ends. Round 3, Round 4. You can even use the auto Shazam app, that sinclaire described in an article a few months ago about the benefits of smart phones in the club. If there is someone that counts dances, you might have to get him involved. Don't let her start in the middle of a song even if that means you have to stay standing up and don't spend so much time in the area after the last song ends. Usually i wait for the girl and leave with her holding her hand, arm, back or butt, but with this ROB, i would just pay, thank her, embrace her and leave so you don't potentially get charged an extra song for loitering too long.
Dick comes out. Up and down. There you go. That's a Handie. Hold on, let me get you a towel. See you in five weeks, honey. Here's $40.
Dances at BD's are $20 so I would not mind paying $100 for good dances including a HJ (assuming I wanted one) if the dances were good mileage but $100 is enough payment (I'd either get 4-dances and tip a $20 or 5-dances and no tip and I would tell her $100 was enough payment and only reason I got 5-dances was b/c of the HJ o/w I would've stopped earlier) .
The closer a stripper gets to being an all natural 10, the more PL I become.
BDs sounds wonderful. If there are blonde corn-fed country girls there I would be in heaven.
When you're engaging in sexual shenanigans with a stranger, you should always negotiate beforehand, especially if more than $100 is going to be involved.
What many girls do (in my area) - they ask subtly (“want another?”) and that’s the indicator of another dance/song starting. I keep count that way - and I make sure the dancer knows too.
Seems that the Cuban dancers have banging bodies - but they have a bad reputation for being ROB’s.
And Sir Lap...how can you have an ATF who's a ROB??? I kick ROBs to the curb no matter how good looking they are. Have you noticed there are lots of pretty girls in a club who won't cheat you?
One thing I've learned from being here in TUSCL a while: You have to stand up for yourself in a club or you WILL be a victim.
Report her to the Better Business Bureau!
I agree with this, but there is also the thing about when a bargaining position isn't exactly the best.
Of course, I really do admire the guys who will stand up and say in a loud, firm voice with 15 people nearby "That's not CUM on my shorts, it's PRE-CUM, and I had asked you not to give me a handy in the first place. I said I would tip you for pussy play, and anyway, that was only 5 dances!" (all the while, the 15 people are trying to discreetly glance down and judge for themselves whether they think it's cum or pre-cum and whether he has a legitimate gripe or is just trying to short her on a handy as a manager starts to head over to referee)
In my club both the dancer and a bouncer know the number of dances before we start, so if we go long (or short) it's always sorted out easily. I'm surprised other clubs don't adopt that policy.
She did a fantastic job up until she said 7 songs...
LOL - good one!
You don't think it would work? I bet they could get a dozen guys and women to investigate the situation!
Howard would be all over this one, don't you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxogtWL3…