Whales/regulars locking down dancers at cheap dives.
chessmaster
Illinois
Pretty sure this a recurring topic but what isn't?
I have noticed lately a lot of pl's locking down the best talent at cheap dives and midscale clubs. Specifically on the weekends. Is this good strategy? What do you think about this?
I have noticed lately a lot of pl's locking down the best talent at cheap dives and midscale clubs. Specifically on the weekends. Is this good strategy? What do you think about this?
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Also, whales come in different forms. Sure, there are money-spending whales. But imagine if a club owner had other investors help them get the club started. You don't think he'd make sure they got top-notch treatment when they came in, spender or not? Or, hey, do you know what your local alderman looks like? Maybe they get treated really well at the club, too, too help make sure nothing code-wise becomes an issue.
I mean, I get it, it's frustrating when the girl you see and like gets tied up. But this is a business, and there's usually always a business-related reason why it's going on.
Club Climaxxx is a small black club in Miami w/ $5 full-nude 2-way contact floor dances - even at those prices many of the dudes in there don't get any dances and prefer just to hang (listen to the music, drink, smoke) - but when I was there last weekend a week ago on dayshift I noticed a few young good looking AA dudes locking down some of my hos for an hour getting dances - I think they may have been out-of-towners on vacation since we have a lot of vacationers down here in Miami in the summer, they looked like middle-class guys instead of the local hood type guys that often frequent this club and don't spend jack on the girls - one of these out-of-town looking dudes had a voluptuou brickhouse that was put together like nobody's business locked down for an hour+ and I was waiting till he let her go but he didn't and I left while he was still getting floor dances with her and I was unable to get w/ the bitch.
I don't mind as much if a guy has her locked doing a VIP or dances, but does bother me when I wanna get some dances and a dude has her locked down just sitting there at a table like a mannequin for an hour(s).
She did go on stage - and I asked if she would give me a few dances and then go back to her customer. She did come over and give me dances. They were good. Which is the standard here. Turns out that customer was landlord of the house she was renting - and she told me a good buddy of hers helping out with odds and ends.
So, just a variation of good 'ol "Sugar Daddy" arrangement - although part time (else she'd not be a dancer).
So I'd say - as glued as the dancer may be to a whale - the fact that she came in to work, implies she does need money beyond what the whale can or will provide. If asked, she will most likely free up to entertain another customer and return back to the whale. And most assuredly be open once the whale has left.
It is difficult and frustrating I agree. The best strategy I have used to wedge my sorry ass inbetween a stripper and a possible whale goes as follows because keep in mind some will give older men that is well dressed shit loads of time for no pay in hopes of a pay out that never arrives.
Pay a waitress to send your girl of choice a drink and have her discretely tell the dancer if her current guy isn't buying yet that four ready now
I can't tell you how many times I have seen the dancer's run over to me with a smile ready to go play while that old broke bastard sits their nursing his cocktail.
Rare times I get denied because she is getting compensation some way by this whale. In those cases the dancer will still come over and thank me for her drink and explain the situation and I just tap out and congratulate her on a successful night then let her know in the future I would enjoy time with her.
Being generous and respectful goes a long way with these chicks. So does good hygiene
This is in fact true.
Btw, Fuck you Jackie.
Yes I agree chulo.
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As repeated above already: you know precisely jack shit about whether anyone is spending money or not ... I can't believe experienced PLs still think they "know" who is spending what. You would pretty much never see me exchanging money with my CF, who I tend to lock up for many hours.
On the other hand, UGK and chess are right, in that, sometimes the stripper has merely profiled the customer as a high-$ target, and leaves with nothing. That definitely happens. But you as an onlooking, jealous PL have no idea which situation it is: well-compensated stripper getting paid surreptitiously, or stripper taking calculated risk and possibly getting nothing.
I do sympathize with you variety guys, has to be frustrating
If you're paying her for five hours of awkward silence where her thought bubble of "what exactly does this guy want from me??" is almost visible, then as my preferences go, it wouldn't be worth it. Maybe for the guys who primarily want to impress other guys at the club, it would be, though.
I have had dancers spend a lot of time for relatively little compensation when I wasn't actively trying to lock them down, though. It was generally either a slower night and we got along well or my table was an emotionally safe place to recharge and feel desired again after another customer rejected her offer for dances.
Sometimes another guy would approach her on-stage/through a waitress/etc, for dances, which was probably a win/win for her, since at that point the guy was identifying himself as a sale from the outset and maybe even felt the need to compensate her a bit more to "compete" with me.
In other words, I have only found it worthwhile when a dancer locks herself down at my table. That said, I wouldn't mind trying Subraman's approach of pre-planning a block of time on a slow shift if there were currently any dancers that it seemed worthwhile/doable with.
Fortunately, my budding CF doesn't seem prone to being locked down, and spending 15-20 minutes in the front room before going for dances has worked out.
Blasphemy!!!!
I think it is best to work the situation in your favor, like Rick says. Except I would try a different night shift and/or club. Shift that encourages the dancers to keep moving is best for a LD variety guys.
This is where for me I think Fri or Sat night shift works in my favor for me.
I think the key point is in the OP's opening post: "cheap dives and midscale clubs.". If noone is spending money, then they latch on to whoever is, or someone that will at least buy them drinks (or anyone that is not utterly repulsive to be around).
To echo Rick and John, you've got to buy your way into her attention.
I find it frustrating if I see a hottie I want to spend money on but she has lots of people waiting for her already. But that's just how the business works.
And is expected to abide by the procedures of the club.