Where Can A Liberal Go And Not Have Government Oppression?
rockstar666
Illinois
In other words, what country in the world would suit someone like me as far as social values? A country that has abortion on demand, socialized medicine, strict gun control, freedom of expression, legal gay marriage and legal pot? Bonus points for good year round weather (so Canada is kind of out!).
Not that I want to move, because I like where I'm at. Yet if I won the lottery and could retire, I'd consider leaving the US for just such a place and let the rest of you figure out how to deal with Donald Trump.
Not that I want to move, because I like where I'm at. Yet if I won the lottery and could retire, I'd consider leaving the US for just such a place and let the rest of you figure out how to deal with Donald Trump.
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I'm thinking that along with a pretty progressive country like Canada are the Scandinavian countries like Sweden and Denmark. Greenland? Iceland?
Of course, the Netherlands have FKKs, but the winter wether
Of course, the Netherlands have FKKs, but the winter weather sucks as badly as Canada.
What's the tax rate like? ;)
I realize that post-WWII that will be an uphill battle since we have the FBI and CIA to contend with. But I refuse to just lie down and take it up the ass from the G-Man. Big military guns equalize that. Simple weapons like little handguns and revolvers and shotguns will not cut it.
Sit there and believe in fairy tales, rainbows, and unicorns for all I care. I don't *trust* them. They have a monopoly on power.
You just committed a capital offense if you're saying you do. You seriously own guns in case you have to kill government agents?
In July of 2008, presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama stated that Americans could no longer “…continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHf…
Leaving the country could be a necessity if Trump is elected. Lots of Europeans came to the US in the 1930's to escape the Nazi's. And then in the 1950's lots of American intellectuals went to Europe to escape the McCarthy Era.
Wilhelm Reich's books got burned on both occasions.
Scandinavia and all of the Social Democracies of the EU could be a possibility.
Jeremy Rifkin
http://www.amazon.com/European-Dream-Eur…
But another way could be the developing world, like Latin America. Totally different situation, but still with some definite advantages:
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
But some might not be able to select the role they get cast into:
The Hiding Place full movie Corrie Ten Boom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX0GwjXE…
Claude Berr, born Sioux City Iowa, 1925
part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zdzf5aQ…
part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hgU3wvQ…
part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BPWoYzp…
by Leonard Cohen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BGWx8hr…
Just a preview clip of Jean Renoir's masterpiece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og2quk1a…
Sophie Scholl - White Rose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJXLZdn…
Sophie Scholl & The White Rose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6irHPPwb…
SOPHIE SCHOLL THE FINAL DAYS Full Film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXtC08tW…
SJG
I had some bad run ins with the local Govt (zoning and building) very bad reactions with a monopoly on power that left a bad taste in my mouth. It made me feel powerless.
Plus I would like to see your socialized medicine (Medcare for everyone?) take off. Medical care is just getting to expensive to point I just avoid using it since deductibles are so high. I would just like to see a system with reasonable costs and reasonable outcomes, for the little guy, making like $50K/yr.
Obama's record is quite clear: in his almost 8 years in office, gun laws nationally are even weaker than they were when he started. Not because that's what he wanted, but the NRA controls this issue with their money. No president can change that; only the will of the people could.
Some said the same thing when Reagan was elected, same with Bush2 but they never leave and you won't either. *sigh*
And if you know so much about other countries why the fuck are you asking a bunch of PLs on a strip club website about what country to move to?
BTW sport, even the chicks @ OSU can play guitar better than you can. And what's suce s?
Something you do with your band mates?
Embrace those social values along with an empty pocket!
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Seems to me the UK qualifies as a capitalist economy with a truly world-class health care system (NHS). The NHS provides the best results, at the lost cost, of any health-care system in the world. The UK dictates the salary of MDs, which would be rejected as socialism here and could never happen in the US.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/15/w…
It is true that Sanders is advocating going after the wealthy elites who dominate the economy by raising taxes, closing tax loopholes and placing tax havens off limits while at the same time doubling the minimum wage to help low-income earners. And it is true that he is proposing to also redistribute that wealth in the form of funding universal healthcare, tuition-free university and much-needed infrastructure projects. But none of this constitutes socialism.
Bernie Is Not a Socialist and America Is Not Capitalist
http://www.theatlantic.com/international…
SJG
http://www.sciencealert.com/a-canadian-p…
I think a basic income guarantee is mandatory. Capitalism is what creates unemployment. And Cecil Williams and the people who run Guild Memorial United Methodist Church in San Francisco have got it right. Poverty is caused by social marginalization.
So a corollary is simply this, everyone wants to do well. They want to win the admiration of family and friends. So if they are not doing well, then there must be some social marginalization or disability at work here. But as the main problem is marginalization, then we should not talk about disability, as usually this just means more marginalization.
And of course it is absurd that people should be accepting psychiatric labels. These are just an extreme form of oppression.
So for there to be justice there has to be this basic income guarantee, or what amounts to cradle to grave welfare.
The typical person on welfare takes far less out of our economy than those employed do. And if the welfare recipient is not driving around much in a car, then they are treading far more lightly on the earth than those who senselessly burn up gas and dump CO2 into the atmosphere to do jobs which produce absolutely nothing which people need to live.
Now welfare takes money out of gov't coffers, but in the US welfare has never been more than 3% of federal expenditure. This is much less than corporate welfare and other expenses directed to the betterment of the middle class in order to maintain political allegiance, or to keeping the poor down. So welfare is a cheaper way to keep our society going than the present state of affairs.
And then as far as federal accounts, it is the federal gov't which controls the printing press, the furnace, and interest rates which multiply the availability of money by the inverse of the interest rate. Suffice to say, federal accounts and the money supply are all under gov't control, hence it is artificial. It is just a matter of who and what are being served by it.
So as those who are not doing well are simply the victims of social injustice, we must redress this social injustice.
1. Stop using psychiatric labels, learning disability labels, or morality labels.
2. Offer people value producing work, not nonsense just to get a paycheck.
3. Provide this cradle to grave welfare system as efficiently as possible, and understand that everyone wants to be a useful and meaningful part of our society.
4. Follow my recommendation and hold parents accountable for exploiting their children, using them to give themselves a adult identity. This amounts to psychological child abuse. So besides criminal prosecution where practical, also prevent disinheritance and offer something like a divorce from one's parents when their is parent v child animosity. Make the parents pay, and pay dearly. Make it so that child exploitation no longer pays.
5. And for those who insist on calling the poor lazy or immoral, know that this is how Capitalism works. It is the family where this starts, with the designation of a child as the blacksheep. Those who denigrate the poor are just doing what their parents did to them. So the poor and marginalized need to start standing up for themselves rather than submitting. They and all of us must start engaging in public advocacy and non-violent civil disobedience.
6. And then since the New Economy and Libertarianism are really just the old Social Darwinism and Eugenics Movement, saying that the poor are not fit to compete, we all need to be prepared to do more than just be non-violent. We don't want to be like Anne Frank's father, hiding in an attic waiting for the Gestapo. We need to be ready to engage in guerrilla warfare, the use of lethal force, and without taking prisoners. Unless we are willing to do this, then we are helping the eugenicists who say that we are not fit to live. Gandhi and Jesus lived in violent revolutionary times. They were only able to accomplish their works because others were maintaining the constant threat of lethal violence on a large scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_…
SJG
www.sciencealert.com/a-canadian-province…
I think a basic income guarantee is mandatory. Capitalism is what creates unemployment. And Cecil Williams and the people who run Guild Memorial United Methodist Church in San Francisco have got it right. Poverty is caused by social marginalization.
So a corollary is simply this, everyone wants to do well. They want to win the admiration of family and friends. So if they are not doing well, then there must be some social marginalization or disability at work here. But as the main problem is marginalization, then we should not talk about disability, as usually this just means more marginalization.
And of course it is absurd that people should be accepting psychiatric labels. These are just an extreme form of oppression.
So for there to be justice there has to be this basic income guarantee, or what amounts to cradle to grave welfare.
The typical person on welfare takes far less out of our economy than those employed do. And if the welfare recipient is not driving around much in a car, then they are treading far more lightly on the earth than those who senselessly burn up gas and dump CO2 into the atmosphere to do jobs which produce absolutely nothing which people need to live.
Now welfare takes money out of gov't coffers, but in the US welfare has never been more than 3% of federal expenditure. This is much less than corporate welfare and other expenses directed to the betterment of the middle class in order to maintain political allegiance, or to keeping the poor down. So welfare is a cheaper way to keep our society going than the present state of affairs.
And then as far as federal accounts, it is the federal gov't which controls the printing press, the furnace, and interest rates which multiply the availability of money by the inverse of the interest rate. Suffice to say, federal accounts and the money supply are all under gov't control, hence it is artificial. It is just a matter of who and what are being served by it.
So as those who are not doing well are simply the victims of social injustice, we must redress this social injustice.
1. Stop using psychiatric labels, learning disability labels, or morality labels.
2. Offer people value producing work, not nonsense just to get a paycheck.
3. Provide this cradle to grave welfare system as efficiently as possible, and understand that everyone wants to be a useful and meaningful part of our society.
4. Follow my recommendation and hold parents accountable for exploiting their children, using them to give themselves a adult identity. This amounts to psychological child abuse. So besides criminal prosecution where practical, also prevent disinheritance and offer something like a divorce from one's parents when their is parent v child animosity. Make the parents pay, and pay dearly. Make it so that child exploitation no longer pays.
5. And for those who insist on calling the poor lazy or immoral, know that this is how Capitalism works. It is the family where this starts, with the designation of a child as the blacksheep. Those who denigrate the poor are just doing what their parents did to them. So the poor and marginalized need to start standing up for themselves rather than submitting. They and all of us must start engaging in public advocacy and non-violent civil disobedience.
6. And then since the New Economy and Libertarianism are really just the old Social Darwinism and Eugenics Movement, saying that the poor are not fit to compete, we all need to be prepared to do more than just be non-violent. We don't want to be like Anne Frank's father, hiding in an attic waiting for the Gestapo. We need to be ready to engage in guerrilla warfare, the use of lethal force, and without taking prisoners. Unless we are willing to do this, then we are helping the eugenicists who say that we are not fit to live. Gandhi and Jesus lived in violent revolutionary times. They were only able to accomplish their works because others were maintaining the constant threat of lethal violence on a large scale.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare
When I Google "most liberal countries", I see the usual cold-weather suspects. Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, and Canada. But Costa Rica is also on the list.
In Costa Rica, prodtituion is legal. But I porn is not. Go figure
SJG
"I fear that an writing a requiem for myself"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPlhKP0n…
SJG
http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2016/03/14/…
Robert Paxton on Donald Trump
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/15/fa…
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/15/is…
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/17/fa…
John Nichols
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/16/do…
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph…
SJG
Best of Debussy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRZmdzCG…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Deb…
http://soundzgreg.blogspot.com/2012/01/c…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Chat_No…