The gap between an LDK and FS is just not worth hundreds and hundreds of dollars

And then going into these VIPs blind, with these crazy ho's yeah no. Ain't nothing butta set up. Fuck all of it.

Unless she is an absolute GODESS and they do exist then it's blank check time but otherwise I just ain't doing it no more.

I don't like that feeling in your stomach Oh God did I just spend that, wtf dude. I don't like it. Get in, spend the absolute bare minimum and then get the fuck out.

LDK is kind of like an OTP handjob. Theyre grinding their pussy on you instead of using their hands- but theres no actual penetration.

I agree if you are comparing covered FS to LDK. Its debatable. But something like a BBBJ i would say is worth $100+ more than LDK.

Your right in that 600+ is a high rate. But you can get full service with bbbj in the $250-$400 range as well.
I wouldn’t pay the $600+ unless its someone really hot or really famous and also provides a GFE.

Also i would prefer getting a bare HJ to LDK. You can find that for a lower price

Once the post nut clarity hits it’s like why the hell was I about to spend hundreds on FS when I could LDK or get OTP/handy at LD price

I wish I could still LDK. When I was much younger that happened a couple of times.

"This has saved me THOUSANDS."

This is a really interesting way of looking at the strip club hobby! I mean, if I'm wanting to SAVE money, normally I'm heading off to Costco rather than the strip club... :)

Of course, I also tend to associate coupons with saving money, so if clubs would just start sending out coupons in the mail, that could totally change my line of thinking. I mean, I don't really need a deal on a stinkin' double cheeseburger. But if instead I got a coupon for...

Buy one LDK at regular price and get a second LDK for $1.00 more

...well, alrighty then, I'm off to the club to get my savings!! 😁

"post nut clarity"

@PAWG_Patrol

Is it just me, or would that be a great name for a breakfast cereal? 😂

Wasted $$$ on FS. Many times I wished I stayed with LDK. Believe it or not many of those girls are not good at sex, even though they may be the best dancers.

However, I went out with two or three girls who took things to another level for me. I am not saying they don’t do it for money but they also enjoy it a lot. Those were worth every penny.

I agree in principle, but I’m with Jascoi. I can’t really LDK anymore. When I was in my 20s and 30s I’d LDK a lot, often just from a beauty grinding on me. Now I need at least a HJ. I have LDK’d from vigorous, dedicated OTP stick shifting. Does that count?

Look, I'll never begrudge a guy with premature ejaculation issues the enjoyment of cumming in his own pants from a dry hump. 😉 . Some of us just don't suffer from that condition and need more to get over the goal line.

If you want to save money, stay at home and bang your wife

I absolutely hate cumming in my pants. It makes a huge, irritating mess, and I have to immediately clean it up or it annoys the fuck out of me. Not to mention the wet spot(s) on my pants. Plus, like rickdugan, It's almost impossible for me to LDK. I need more stimulation.

Not much difference between coming in your pants and pissing in your pants , they’re both pretty much juvenile behaviors.

No one's mentioned that the legality is driving the price difference. A stripper doesn't risk losing her job or getting arrested from an LDK, from FS, she does, so obviously she's gonna charge more.

In places where solicitation is legal (Mexico, Germany), the gap between the cost of a few dances and FS is much much smaller.

Well look, I like variety and like to monger a lot. I can't make the numbers work if I'm getting taking to the cleaners at every stop. Sometimes you gotta hold on to that football for dear life. Stretch that dollar out. If we are moneyballing this thing, IF YOU CAN DO IT, (I understand those who can't, fair enough) I say play it like this.

I love to monger for sure. I also travel frequently for work.

I used to always hit up clubs in any new city. Lately though, not so much, unless I'm in a city with known extras clubs, like FLL, Dallas or Detroit. I just recently got back from a trip to the twin cities and skipped the club scene entirely.

Sure, you can find extras in a non-extras club. But in my experience it requires a big investment to build rapport in the form of dances or VIP rooms, and even then there's no guarantee, plus the price could be outrageous.

Much better IMHO to save my mongering dollars for that next trip to TJ or SoFla. That's the way to stretch the value of the dollar - deploying it only when it will have maximum efficacy.

I once attended a seminar on premature ejaculation, but it ended really early...

Or ... Let a hot one tune you up for a song or two. Then go home and wack it. Usually a better finish - and a better value.

As I wrote recently on this board, it is difficult to comprehend how bad some of these girls are at this.

Lmao bro you outta pocket with this post . Just save your money and pay for the pussy.

My first time back here in months and of course someone has an LDK thread going.

If your standard is the NFL, a pee wee kid's football game does nothing for you.

If your dick's standard is the inside of a tight wet pussy, then outside-the-pants stimulation will do nothing for you.

LDK'ing is only achievable if your dick is incredibly unaccustomed to stimulation by women. I won't be convinced otherwise.

I haven't had an LDK since my 40s. Strangely satisfying and down right cheap.

@5footguy i think part of it is also the dick size while soft. A longer soft dick is easier to stimulate from the outside of the pants. A shorter soft dick, or too big a belly, and you wont be able to get an LDK because she wont ever be touching the actual D.
Besides that its like masturbating. Some guys might need a longer time grinding to finish

Never done it and don't want to. Some dancers have tried. A remember one blonde at Mons who was grinding me so well in the lapper she came, and an AA dancer at Tootsie's who turned into a mission. Both brought me close but not over the edge. Although, I think the Tootsie's girl was edging me on purpose to get me into a VIP.

p4p is only worth it if the girl is a goddess, and goddesses don't have fake tits (or butt implants). I had one dancer at Spearmint Rhino in West Palm Beach who claimed to have been a playmate and wouldn't quit the strippershit trying to get me into VIP. Maybe she was a playmate, she had a pornstar body with a tight ass, slim waist, flat stomach, and big fake tits. The silicone in the tits kept my head on straight. I still bought too many lappers, though. No CIP there, either.

LDK'ing is only achievable if your dick is incredibly unaccustomed to stimulation by women. I won't be convinced otherwise.

@5footguy, that's certainly a provocative take, lol. I think you are on to something here, and you're right that the less you're getting laid the more likely you are to enjoy an LDK.

However, I think there's a bigger factor at work that others have alluded to: age.

When you're 20, you can fuck like 5 times a day but for like 30 seconds each time before you nut. If a hot woman so much as sneezes on you, you might cream your pants. I think at a younger age LDK is pretty normal.

And then as we age, it takes longer and requires more stimulation to bust a nut. So I think a lot of dudes simply age out of the LDK. That or it becomes much harder to achieve and requires a professional dedicated to that outcome.

I am 61. Yes, the ability to LDK is certainly age-related. Even if I get HJ, it is more difficult to cum.

The pants your wearing also makes a difference. Sweatpants, basketball shorts are a thinner material than jeans, khakis. But if shes grinding on your belly or thighs, an LDK might be totally impossible