Holiday gift ideas for an ATF

I guess learn to fold your money into a duck or flowers or what ever you can fold cash into...shit just wade it up into little balls and toss them in her face as she blows you.

That's what a Mang does

@CrazyJoe---> " I think you just make up shit because you're really not doing the things you say you do on here"

Popping pills

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For sure, not hard to look at the responses and see who is doing the exact equivalent of SW-style lying & posing.

Completely agree guys. MANG i tell you this board has some idiots.

Go windee da poo on her honey pot and eat dat good good

Sucking the devil's dick

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o • But I only troll Juice. Luckily he's got a nice demeaner about it and is a good sport.

While I'm at it...

"Juice how many times have you dropped your phone in the toilet while taking a shit and masturbating at the same time, while looking at backpage ads on your phone?"

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I'll admit I'm a cynical guy when it comes to dancers – in my cynical PL mind I doubt most of them care what we give them other than cash – I don't bother getting them something “special” b/c we are not special to them IMO – so it really won't mean much IMO – a POS gift from their BF/guy-they-like-to-bang-for-free probably means much more to them than our PL gift unless it's something very expensive/luxurious.

My 2 PL cents.

Money.

Give them DATY

I give em crabs

I don't think you'll get many serious answers here, although I'm a bit suspicious that shailynn was serious about the crabs :)

I would resist the temptation to make a grand gesture with a gift, almost certainly it's a waste of money and she'll resent having to pretend to value it. Whereas she'll truly value cash, or the fact that you upgraded from a VIP room to a Champagne room, or just a big tip. If you MUST also buy her a present to make it more personal (which, in the end, is more about satisfying your needs than hers), buy her something small & inexpensive ... e.g., a little stripper survival kit (her fave vodka, some redbull, & a hit of molly), etc.

Yea the crabs joke was funny

Here are a few things I've given striippers besides cash. Most of my gifts indirectly involve having sex with me.

A shopping trip. She models the clothes for me that night, then I get to remove them.

A vibrator. DS loved this gift.

Bluetooth speaker. We use it to play rap music on dates.

A couples visit to a spa. Sex is better before than after the spa.

Dinner at a nice restaurant. After dinner she gives me my gift.

An iPad mini.

In all seriousness why don't you just ask her if she needs anything - a coy way about it is ask "what's something you want but won't buy yourself because you think it's too frivolous." Maybe she'd say "a visit to a spa or a pair of running shoes or restaurant gift cards."

Why don't you write her a poem – works for Juice all the time

His usually start:

“Dear Bitch ...”

Oh yeah I forgot. This Christmas I'm giving all of my regulars marijuana edibles.

IME; with many women; and particularly dancers; the more one gives them the less they appreciate you and the more they expect

I typically get a gift for the stripper I am currently fucking during the holidays. If I have no such stripper during that time, I just buy my wife more shit, like she really needs another fur coat.

Why don't you write her a poem – works for Juice all the time

His usually start:

“Dear Bitch ...”

I just lost it on that one...lol...sad but true

For the longest time, I just gave money. I still do, to most of them. To one, though, I gave a locket, with pictures of her kids inside. She damn near cried.

Make it simple. Perfume, a gift card, money, a phone case, earrings. Something that has little or no meaning.

I once got my ATF a hand tooled sterling silver bracelet for which I paid about $400 to the artisan who made it. 6 months later I asked why I never saw her wearing it. She replied that she only wore costume jewelry and was pissed that she only got $40 for it at the pawn shop. There was a lesson there.

Give her a big ole hunk of summer sausage -- and not from Hickory Farms

Mo"head knows what's up

Someone posted a stripperweb article where the dancers chimed in on how PLish gifts were, and most of the girls threw away their gifts. Such a waste of time and money, and even worse they disrespect u even more if you give them a gift.

I only once in my life gave a gift, it was a bottle of wine from my trip to France. Needless to say she was overjoyed and gave me good times that day!

Give her juices phone number..Im God's gift to bitches

My ATF mentioned once that she loves shopping at Victoria's Secret. (I had just complimented her on the bra that she was wearing.) I decided to do something for her as a combo Valentine's Day/ birthday present. I got her a gift certificate for $100 at VS. It ended up being a gift for me as well - she modelled her purchase the next time I was at her club!

Put a bow on your boots then give her a swift kick in the ass hole

I bet pussy juice will fly

"Give her juices phone number..Im God's gift to bitches"

Fuck you - I just spit my drink on my computer laughing so hard from that one.

"Someone posted a stripperweb article where the dancers chimed in on how PLish gifts were, and most of the girls threw away their gifts. Such a waste of time and money, and even worse they disrespect u even more if you give them a gift."

This is what I've basically heard from strippers I've remained in contact with after they retire, when they're super transparent about their stripper days. One ex-stripper I remained good friends with told me that gifts were basically meaningless to her -- they'd break up roses in the locker room and each girl take one, throw away food, give away any low cost gift, and for most high cost gifts, give them to family. She kept a few expensive gifts she liked, but after she retired, "I gave all those things away -- having them in my house reminded me of who I had to blow for what. I don't want anything that reminds me of any customer."

Which is why I say that giving the girls gifts rather than cash is usually more for the PL -- he wants to feel like he's giving her something meaningful, and that their relationship is more meaningful than pay-for-play. There are definitely girls who break the mold, and guide their PLs to buy gifts they actually want (at a budget far higher than those guys would have paid in cash). I don't blame a PL for wanting to feel that way, but for me, I'd rather buy an extra VIP room, in most cases

One of my ATFs favorite was a piece of jewelry I had made for her.

If I give anything out this year it will be sexy t-shirts or boxes of See's candy.

I've gotten my ATF strippers perfume,shoe's,gift cards,nike jogging suits over the years.

Lol shylnn...

I have given my favorite strippers some nice gifts, including jackets and other clothes. Nothing very expensive. But I have to agree that gifts are mostly wasted. I'm sticking with cash from now on.

Gifts are only wasted by addicts, unappreciative bitches, or if you picked out a shitty gift.

-*Most* dancers would appreciate a Tiffany necklace or bracelet. If it's sterling silver you can get one for a couple hundred bucks.

-A lot of girls are into name brands. You can get a Michael Kors purse for 200-300. Most strippers would like that, and a lot of them like those bags.

-A gift certificate to Victoria's Secret. $100 doesn't go very far though so I'd say 200-300.

So if you have 2-300 to spend, I think those are all good ideas. But it wouldn't hurt to ask first. Say something like, "so what kind of jewelry do you wear outside the club?" or "I've seen a lot of girls wearing those Michael Kors bags, do you have one?" See how receptive she is to those questions.

Does she like any sports teams? Tickets are fun. One of my old regulars got me plenty of gifts "just because," and since he knows I love the Tigers, one time he brought me in an authentic Verlander jersey and two tickets to an upcoming game (he was much older than me so he bought the tickets for me to take a friend with me, not him lol). It was a thoughtful gift, and I immediately put on the jersey, unbuttoned of course, and pranced around the club for the rest of the night looking cute.

You could give her some Drugs

Simple. Ask her to send you link to a sexy dress or shoes she's likes. Have it sent to the sc she works at. Done.

Smack da shit out of her puss

Something I've never understood is why you guys treat these girls like they're your girlfriends. Buying her gifts? For what? For letting you cum in her mouth in VIP. Just pay them when they give you dances, and they'll be "happy".

"...he wants to feel like he's giving her something meaningful, and that their relationship is more meaningful than pay-for-play"

This is the most on point comment in this whole thread. I really am trying to stop SMH but I can't. It's just moving back and forth involuntarily at this point. A stripper could give a flying fuck about you guys. If tomorrow you told your ATF you were broke and wanted to know if the two of you could still hang out and do whatever it is you say goes on she'd laugh in your face. You may feel like you have a connection but the only connection is between her hand and your wallet. I can guarantee when another stripper asks her where she got her $200-300 Tiffany bracelet, VS gift card or name brand purse she's simply going to say "one of my regulars" and that will be the nicest possible way I can spin her saying it. That's even assuming she keeps it and doesn't re-gift it as a christmas present.

Do you buy your doctor presents? Your accountant? Your weed dealer?

"Something I've never understood is why you guys treat these girls like they're your girlfriends. Buying her gifts? For what?"

I use gifts to spur discussion and increase the sc related trust. I buy my favorite a $40 sexy dress she likes, she can try it on for me and we can discuss if it fits, what color would look better etc... It increases her comfort level with me and spurs OTC opportunities. I don't really give a shit if she likes it or not as long as it drives discussion and the perception of a comfortable relationship even if it is p4p.

Dis guy is a lame and enjoy tricking off

Why? Just like we have ATFs. Strippers have favorite customers. Doing something just a little extra can go a long way. I have had 4 strippers give me gifts for xmas and birthdays. I'm damn sure not going to stiff them.

what are you guys gonna get them this year? lol

seriously though, I've never given any stripper a gift/present.......but i agree with you guys that it would be wasted. subraman did a good job of explaining it. its a thoughtful gesture by a PL, but the problem is it turns something that is strictly business into something more personal....

nina's post suggests other wise though......

CF gets no gifts of any kind.
She asks for birthday and Christmas gifts but I tell her no. I spend enough on her already.

I figure 1-month's serice, in cash. That's the standard Christmas tip for a service worker -- dancers would fall into that category. Most customers are too cheap for that. I get that.

With that said, Nina gave good advice. I've never known a date who wouldn't like a $300 designer hand bag or real gold/silver from the Tiffany's catalog. Seriously, both are good options.

I used a know a sugar baby (we worked at the same office) about 16 years ago and her SD got her a $2500 Prada hand bag, once. She used that thing pretty much every day. So that was a good, thoughtful gift. The nice thing about Tiffany's is the gold and silver is pure enough for daily use (for example earrings that won't irritate her ears like cheap ones will).

^^^ The young strippers tell me that Tiffany's is an old-lady thing. Lost its cool, maybe.

A number of the strippers I know would be VERY irritated if you bought them a $300 handbag... for these girls, their conspicuous consumption does not allow for such cheap handbags.

Yes, it's bizarro world

I don't doubt that, Subraman. Tiffany's is good to timeless pieces with decent gold or silver for daily wear. Maybe not fashionable enough. The market for the $300 handbags is women who have 10 of them in different styles, colors, or leathers. Otherwise, she'll probably want Prada or Hermes (or Chanel or Gucci or Louis Vuitton). Whales probably buy Birkin bags, since you have to *know* someone to even buy the damn thing.

So there's your answer. Buy her a Burkin bag. :)

Here's what we have in Cleveland:
http://fountleather.com/about/
^^^Most of the girls want these. It's quality stuff and sort of rare.

I had never bought a Christmas present for a stripper until this year, when I bought luggage for my ATF. I noticed on our first date in August, when we spent the night in a hotel room (since then we've stayed at her place), that she brought some toiletries and a few outfits (four to model for me and one for the next day) in a couple of plastic bags, from which I assumed that she owned no luggage at all. So I bought a reasonably nice four-piece luggage set in her favorite color for about $60, marked down from $180! This was intended both to satisfy a need and to provide nice luggage for a road trip that we had planned for last week. Unfortunately the road trip fell through because neither of us was feeling well, but I kept the gift and will give it to her when I see her again in a week or two.

The only other time I have given a present to a stripper was in January, when I happened to take a favorite extras girl out on her birthday for dinner and a postprandial BJ in my hotel room. To make her birthday less than completely disgusting, I gave her a bath and body wash set, a birthday card, and cash beyond what we had agreed to. She seemed to be delighted and told me it was her favorite birthday in years.

In principle I agree that the only present most strippers appreciate is cash.

This practice of giving gifts to whores doesn't make sense to me.

Does her service improve after receiving these gifts?

If no, it seems like a waste.
If yes, she didn't deserve it because she had obviously been holding back before.

Ah, old thread... I'd still maintain that if you really want to do something, and you HAVE to give a gift, the most surefire approach is a small $20 gift plus some kind of cash gift (an extra VIP or two, a $100 tip, whatever). I do think when you get super close with a stripper, it's possible to buy an appropriate gift that she'll actually appreciate, but in the vast majority of cases, "token gift + cash" is the winning strategy. Plus, I find that helps keep MY head straight as to what our relationship actually is.

What Subraman said about the token gift plus cash. This year I gave my ATF a tablet and $500.

And of course, the gift of my presence. Which she seemed to appreciate, considering my face looked like a glazed donut later that day.

^^^ She made you cum all over your own face?

-->"This practice of giving gifts to whores doesn't make sense to me.
Does her service improve after receiving these gifts?
If yes, she didn't deserve it because she had obviously been holding back before."

I think this is the usual thing that happens, her service improves, at least for that night -- and, well, yeah, in ANY male-female relationship, the giving of gifts tends to yield significant benefits back to the male. And it's in the female's best interests to reward this behavior so it might happen again. All in all, I'd say, just like your girlfriend will be extra nice to you after you give her a gift, so will a stripper or escort.

I do think that you're thinking strictly in utilitarian terms, though, and most customers think of stripper/customer relationships -- at least their ATF relationships -- in other terms

@Subraman: Not quite. :)

I've always found that a gift yields far more in improved service than the cash that purchased the gift.

@K, absolutely agree, but only if it's something she actually wants, or has meaning. I once gave my ATF a locket with pictures of her kids in it. You'd think I'd given her a diamond.

at the most i'd give some cash... the universal gift certificate. only she knows what she really likes.

Ino my experience, they really appreciate dick pix. It's the thought that counts, not the money spent.