Any Advice?
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
I just made a date with the DS for this weekend. I said it was for "dinner," but we all know what I really want to eat. And it's not food. Although it might occassionally smell like fish.
I feel completely comfortable negotiating with strippers...except this one. I know this is pathetic, but how many guys get to meet their perfect woman? And then fuck her? And then fuck her weekly, if not daily. Over and over. And take her on trips? And have a complete GFE with multiple orgasms every time? My ultimate sexual partner. You get the point. This is not some random ho that I want to bang. This is the original dream stripper.
So understanding that I'm probably going to be desperate to feel the insides of her incredibly tight little pussy again, talk to me. Give me the strength and wisdom to not to do something too stupid. Like I can't agree to pay her thousands, or some other pathetic shit. And I can't be too insistent upon knowing what happened to the whale, though I really really want to know if she's fucking the asshole. Tell me how to keep the little head from taking over and fucking this up.
I want her back. Badly. And I was kinda over her until I got that text from her. But not really. As amazing as DS II is, and as fun as the others are, I just can't ever forget the DS.
OK thanks for any suggestions to keep me at least slightly less pathetic than I would otherwise be.
I feel completely comfortable negotiating with strippers...except this one. I know this is pathetic, but how many guys get to meet their perfect woman? And then fuck her? And then fuck her weekly, if not daily. Over and over. And take her on trips? And have a complete GFE with multiple orgasms every time? My ultimate sexual partner. You get the point. This is not some random ho that I want to bang. This is the original dream stripper.
So understanding that I'm probably going to be desperate to feel the insides of her incredibly tight little pussy again, talk to me. Give me the strength and wisdom to not to do something too stupid. Like I can't agree to pay her thousands, or some other pathetic shit. And I can't be too insistent upon knowing what happened to the whale, though I really really want to know if she's fucking the asshole. Tell me how to keep the little head from taking over and fucking this up.
I want her back. Badly. And I was kinda over her until I got that text from her. But not really. As amazing as DS II is, and as fun as the others are, I just can't ever forget the DS.
OK thanks for any suggestions to keep me at least slightly less pathetic than I would otherwise be.
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No joke.
And after you cancel, meet with her but pay her LESS for the pussy than you used to.
I recall reading bits of a post of yours where you were groveling to your dream stripper and offering basically whatever she wanted to meet up with you again and I think that you'll basically do the same thing this time. I suppose it might be nice to have no conscience and more money than brains and fall all over yourself offering thousands to a whore sex worker without any loss of self esteem but that's not how I roll. No matter how desirable she might be to your senses, she's a prostitute that strips, shakes her ass, and plays guys for cash. You aren't the first one and you won't be the last one that she's controlled no matter what you think.
If you really want advice grow a pair and do what Shailynn said, cancel at the last minute. Do it without offering any compensation for backing out and if and when you meet her in the future don't give her any more than you have in the past. You've probably already given her too much.
Learn to not care who she's been fucking. For free or for pay. It's okay to want to fuck her; although desperation isn't attractive, desire is. But you should be indifferent about her other dealings. If you're not, learn to fake it.
As always, I will look forward to the stories.
#2 She is a hooker, either low class or high class a ho is still a ho
#3 Ain't no ho worth breaking yourself over financially, physically, mentally or spiritually
#4 Pull yourself together and reclaim your balls ( Trust me I was once like you with my ATF..it sucks and yes it hurts but you must get the balls back bro..you will be more in control of your life again and happier)
#5 go get yourself a ho yes any ho will do and move on
No jokes bro, one should never worship another human being, animal or object more than yourself
If you believe in God then #1 then #2 you and fuck the rest
If your aithest then your #1 and fuck the rest
In doing so you will maximize your true human potential
Focus on yourself
Thus fuck hot as strippers like you already do but don't do it to make her happy but do it only to make yourself happy
In the end you will do as your heart desires and that in of it self is enough
Just make sure your basic needs are cared for
In a monetary based relationship getting too attached is a recipe for disaster and I know you are attached but you need to ask yourself what are you going to do the next time she decides to move on? It's already happened once, if you start with her again you know it will happen again. I don't think you would be the one to end it. This is not a long term relationship, it's a as long as she needs money relationship.
Listen to everything she says with a grain of salt and cynicism. Do what you can to silence the little head before you go. Whatever you do don't set yourself up for a big fall again.
Over the next few days, watch a couple movies each night, movies about obsessive stalkers, and then imagine yourself in the role of the stalker, or shows about people who get so obsessed with another person but can't have that person so they wind up killing themselves.
I know you won't listen to any of that, considering how far your head's up the DS's ass (I wonder if that's why you keep thinking about doing anal on her, just to find your head), but, for God's sake, man, at least consider not paying her for dinner. Just buy the dinner, call it a night, and go back to your hotel room.
I hadn't thought of canceling. But that's not me. I don't play games like that with people, including strippers. Does she deserve it? Yes. Would it put me more in control? Maybe. But it's manipulative, and ev
I remember well having the opportunity to see her again after getting over her
I still remember her text and how my blood rushed thru my vains
How my mind raced with ideas of what might be
I went to that meeting and lived it bro
I got to see her in her new place once she moved away
I got to imagine all the bull shit that she might had down with other men ( yes I was in love)
It was hard to enjoy our meal, shows and laughs because I knew and I could tell she knew this was it...this was good bye
I still remember making love to her and holding each other afterwards as we both cried
We never said good bye all we said was I will see you soon
Words that echo all thru our relationship and evoked emotion in my soul
Yes it was a good visit and yes it was painful
If I had my chance again I would not do it again because I understand the positive power and mental health it gives to move forward and only reflect on the beautiful moments and memories of the past
Their will be another....their will be one that will be greater
Don't limit yourself... let loose and enjoy your unlimited strip club dreams and possibilities
As for being late to dinner, I ask her to drive so I don't have to rent a car. She'll be late, but I don't think that helps.
My plan mostly is to ask her questions, ask her to please be honest, and then decide. I won't pay her any more than I did. My leverage is the money. Her leverage is the pussy. And every other part of her perfect feminine body. I will at least hold out the prospect of paying less, but in the end I'll pay the same amount for the same service. She's worth it. But I have determined not to pay more.
PG, I don't pay for her time at dinner. Even I'm not that pathetic. I'll pay for dinner but that's all I'm obligated to. As for why I'm obsessed with her, read the stories. I can explain it any better than that.
I like what rh48hr said. I will be prepared to walk away if I have to. If we have a relationship, it'll be a different one. One where I'm not set up for the big fall again. I also agree with James. I care, but I think I can fake otherwise.
Sorry I don't have the balls to cancel. It is a great negotiating ploy. But at least I'm honest about my limitations.
Guessing either whatever you're posting on cut out on you or you got interrupted.
Brilliant!
No disrespect JohnSmith69, but your posts come across this way sometimes! I assume (and hope!) that you're exaggerating your DS fixation for dramatic effect! You're putting her in control in an unhealthy way my friend!
Maybe you should try shailynn's strategy, but not to manipulate her! Try it to keep yourself under control!
My two cents! ;)
Sorry! Couldn't resist! ;)
Have dinner, talk about what she wants, about what you want, and then *both* of you go home and think about it.
I'm warning you, that rabbit hole is *deep*, and it won't be easy to climb back out. Trust me on this one, really. Look at my posts and my articles and pay fucking attention.
Then show up for dinner exhausted and fully drained. Then you can casually tell The DS you are fully prepared to resume the relationship depending if she wants to pay you by the orgasm (hers) or a flat rate per night. Tell her you have realized how valuable your time is and given your multiple new options you are not as easily available as you previously were!
And then, by god, fuck her in the ass already. Damn John. At least do it once so you can stop talking about it with no experience. You may as well talk about going to Paris, but never actually planning on going.
At the very least, if you do resume the relationship make it more of a Sugar Daddy type of agreement. Lay out specific expectations of her such as never being late, a flat rate less than you previously provided her, and absolutely no abrupt end to the agreement as that shit she pulled before when she ended it by text. That shit is unacceptable.
Take charge of the relationship and set clear, specific expectations. Then make her stick to them. If/when she doesn't live up to those expectations drop her.
As a last alternative, just marry her and be done with it.
Keep it simple stupid and fuck her in day jazz mane :)
If she does, proceed with things! You should even tell her you were testing her if you back off!
But my recommendation is you get the rimjob! They're brilliant! Anal is great but I could take or leave it, to be honest! I've never done either with a stripper but have done both with girlfriends! If you have the option take it! ;)
Corvus, if we start fucking again, and that's not certain because I haven't heard what she has to say yet, I will set forth some clear guidelines that must be followed. There aren't a lot, because she has always been my perfect paid date, but there is some developing SS that must be addressed if it gets that far.
I wonder if I should carry my glock. Just in case some guy in a lion suit shows up.
Now that was funny.
Wake up! Your girl is a whore. She fucked you for money repeatedly. Do you really think you are the only guy she tricks with? That's one of many lies a whore will tell you. You are too emotionally involved (apparently) to realize you are just another customer she plays for financial gain. Maybe she respects you more than the others, who knows, but she dropped you with ease and now wants you back for financial reasons. And when a richer guy comes along, history tells you she will drop ya again.
Dream stripper sounds about right. You are living in a fantasy world.
Are you actually going to take anyone's advice?
Since you already offered her a bunch of money and she sees that you're desperate thus vulnerable, she will try to get more money than she used to. My advice is to decline to give her more than she usually gets from you. She is playing a game.
As for the fact that she's a whore, I noticed that. But she s a low mileage, high end, sexual freak of a whore and I'd like to keep fucking her if I can do that without getting ripped off.
And yes I know it's all about money for her. And while that has always been true, so what? Except for free girl, it's all about money for all of my strippers and I have never suggested that it is anything else. I'm not in love, I'm not looking for or in any way expecting a girlfriend. A complete and total girlfriend experience yes. But not a girlfriend.
And yes as my post suggested I expect her to want more money, and in fully prepared to say no.
We don't doubt your intention to negotiate hard with her. What we think will happen is that your resolve will crumble when you are dick to pussy with her and you will be sucked back down the hole.
It is what it is – strippers are not perfect and we gotta take them as they are; i.e. take the good w/ the bad – if they were nice-girls; responsible; and considerate of us; they would not be strippers and do what strippers do that we like – i.e. we can't have our cake and eat it too (although some will disagree).
Life is short and is gone b/f we know it – and as another saying goes - “change what you can and if you can't change it then don't worry about it” - i.e. enjoy her for what she can give you and don't worry about what you can't change or control.
It's P4P – so just enjoy her for for what she can give you for your $$$.
Dealing w/ strippers can be analogous to dealing w/ the airlines – often times they will disappoint you and frustrate you but it does not mean you quit flying.
:)
Chew on that. ROAR!
Or to paraphrase Albert Einstein, easily one of the most intelligent men of the 20th century, "The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again, and to expect different results."
#1 your not going to listen
#2 She is a Ho
#3 Dream stripper sounds about right. You are living in a fantasy world.
#4 Call it off
#5 Harvest a set of bowling balls
#6 fuck random cheep hookers
Lol of course by now I'm just joking and cutting up lmfao
Thank you for sharing JS I believe tuscl and I wish you the best brother
There is nothing wrong with meeting the dream stripper again. Just keep your feelings in check.
I seem to remember you mentioning that you want to lay down some ground rules with her. Will you actually be able to stand by those rules and enforce them? Or do you think you'll buckle the first time she pouts or maybe flashes you a tit?
It is no use asking DS about the whale, or any other reason, about the betrayal because her answers will be half-truths best geared to get more cash. You'll never really find out what happened.
The fucking will probably still be good but all the rest of the OTC/ITC fun will be gone because you can no longer trust her and you know she feels you are expendable.
Man, with the kind of cash you are dropping, I recommend forgetting the DS and pursuing other fine honeys that will be exciting and appreciative of your interest. With DS, you will be spending a ton of cash trying to bring back a magic that is, probably, impossible to resurrect. Best to invest the time, cash and thought into other fine honeys. Best of luck.
Just an idea that might help strengthen your resolve, John: Do up a contract. Do up a couple of contracts -- one for her, one for yourself. You don't have to actually show them to her, but doing this might help you focus, to actually see what you want and what you need to do. It might help put you in more of a lawyer mode when (or if) you meet her and keep Little John in his place.
Something else I highly suggest before, at, and after the dinner: No alcohol and no weed. You need to keep your head clear. You can't afford to let the id stray and take over negotiations. If it does, she wins and you lose.
There are a lot of games not worth bothering to play. With a nineteen year old stripper, however, you're going to run into a lot of them. I'm not a big game player, but there's nothing wrong with entering some situations with a "win or lose" mindset. You can bet your DS does.
It sounds like you've had a lot of recent "losses"- situations where she's walked away with you wrapped around her little finger. From a civvie who isn't yet a stripper's standpoint ;) this is NO BUENO. Vent here on tuscl about how much you want her, sure. But give HER your business face. The more interactions she wins, the more power she feels she has, the more she will jerk you around. And not in the good way. ;)
Take it from a girl who has been in the position of power and then lost all interest/respect- turn this around If you're going to continue it.
And PG, I absolutely agree agree no weed. That's what made me such a fucking basket case when she dumped me.