Founder: please ban this guy

What the hell? How did you hear this? Is this for real, a joke, or some kind of scenario?

Is this the asshole that keeps posting rape fantasy's on here? Yes ban him the shit is just ignorant!

Not brilliant! Are you 100% sure the allegation of rape is true?

Not just ban the fuck, but find a way to turn him over to the cops.

If not the cops, then us. I'm sure any number of us will great him warmly with baseball bats.

When you're the Sheriff of San Jose, you get away with a lot of shit

Ya. Why are we posting about a ban ant calling the cops.

The story is from Fifty Shares of Grey, the mommy porn that has MILF panties wet worldwide. I wrote it from the stripper/PL perspective so we could identify with it, but the sexual encounter is as the book describes it. This is what Christian does to be reconciled to Anastasia after she breaks up with him. And it works.

This stuff is as mainstream as it can possibly be. The book has sold over 100 million copies. Women all over the world are horny over this story of sexual exploitation and domination. And it turns out that Anastasia loved this, cumming repeatedly like a DS.

And on tuscl, a site dedicated to getting the most possible sexual satisfaction from strippers, a site populated by self proclaimed sexual perverts, a site that much of the world (and probably most women) wound view as immoral and perverse, many of us are ready not only to judge San Jose Guy, but to demand that he be removed, just because he suggested a practice of sexual dominance that was far far tamer than what is in mainstream literature.

I think this bothered me because a defining characteristic of tuscl is being non-judgmental about members' sexual practices. Simply put, we don't judge other members (and certainly don't demand that they be banned) for sexual practices that we view as immoral. We can give each other shit, but it should stop short of making moral judgments. Who the fuck are any of us to judge one another given how most of society judges us?

Sure, there are extremes where a judgment is theoretically required. If somebody recommends sex with 12 year olds, for example, we will condemn them. But anything short of that sort of unquestionably immoral, unethical, and illegal behavior, including admissions of getting turned on by looking at underage girls, is fine and normal at tuscl. That is as it should be

No matter what anybody thinks of SJG, and I'm far from a fan, he should not have been morally condemned for his post about penetrating a woman while she was asleep. And talk of banning him is contrary to what I understand the tuscl discussion board to be about which is the free and open discussion of getting maximum sexual satisfaction from women, particularly from strippers.

That's deep man.

Motörhead, get high. Then it'll all make sense.

John, fantasies are one thing and reality is another. Hannibal Lecter is mainstream for example, torturing and killing innocent people

Sorry, but sexual violence against women is way to big a deal to be non-judgemental about. How bought we be non-judgemental on the kiddy porn guys too.

Mikeya is right, a fantasy us one thing and reality another. I have fantasies of killing knuckle heads all the time, but I'm sure that see the blood and guts in reality would make me sick. Some girls have rape fantasies, but a lot more sure as shit wouldn't want to be assaulted. Sorry. And you missed the point of the book, they had a pre-established relationship of S&M, so in a sence he was just continuing the role play, and "play" being the key word not real assault. But guess your high as missed that

Nobody ever said love was perfect.

I'm sure there are certain lines that should not be crossed; mainly when it's not consensual – but it seems as in America men are supposed to walk around w/ their dicks tucked b/w their legs and are often bashed, and sometimes even arrested, for just wanting to satisfy their natural sexual desires.

Sometimes it seems that everyone is protected either by race, gender, or sexual orientation – but the avg straight horny guy seems to not have any rights and often has to go around sexually frustrated or trying to satisfy his needs somewhat in the dark.

Not sure why the avg straight horny guy can't rise to the occasion, hit the gym, educate himself, learn a parlor trick or two, impress the ladies so he can get all the consensual ass he wants...

Every American is for competition until they're losing the game.

But hey, pussy is supposed to be easy I guess

Oh we're still talking about sjg. I thought this was somebody else.

"And you missed the point of the book, they had a pre-established relationship of S&M, so in a sence he was just continuing the role play, and "play" being the key word not real assault. But guess your high as missed that."

I read the book even though I thought it was crap because it was so popular that I wanted to see why so many women liked it. And no I didn't miss the point of the consensual nature of their relationship. That's why my example used a situation where she had called the relationship off when he raped her.

I'm sure some women view this as fantasy that they would never actually want in real life. But my distinct impression from reading about women's reactions to the book is that some women like this shit. Some guys do to. Not my thing but, like I said, it's not my place to judge. That's nobody's place.

It's all about the looks – if it's a really good looking guy then it's unbridled passion – if it's an ugly dude then it's rape or harassment.

My ATF has rape fantasies, but it's always with her # 10 hunk of a guy. In reality she likes a lover who is aggressive, controlling and who takes charge. But with customers it's a different story altogether. She calls the shots, feels an obligation to thoroughly please, but always on her terms, she is a master at the art of pleasure but I know she'd never put up with a customer being too aggressive. It all depends on 100 variables.

50 shades is about an abusive relationship.

The chick in the movie version did have good tits.

50 shades of grey is fiction, SJGs description is allegedly real - there's the difference.

I'm not judging either way I'm just pointing that out...

^ Exactly. It's a book. It's fiction. It's a fantasy. Nothing more. It's the same thing that sucks lonely people into romance novels -- they want the safe, vicarious thrill, "safe" being the operative word and you probably couldn't be more safe sitting at home just reading a book.

My bet is that you put the vast majority of those same readers in that same situation and they'd freeze up, they'd run, or they'd just piss their pants. But unfortunately, there is that very small minority that might take inspiration from those works and try to act them out in real life, with or without a consenting partner, much like SJG has done.

Q: What do you say when a drunk stripper wakes up and asks if you're raping her? A: Say, "No, I've already finished."

I have actually never met a woman who wants to be raped. I have met a few who want to be dominated. I find both a turn off. I like a sex partner not a sex doll.

Dominated or take charge, I see it as the same thing. A number of women fantasize about someone they are very attracted to taking charge in a sexual fantasy I believe. Thinking you are that guy is where trouble could start. The guys the women fantasize about likely have girls lining up trying to hook up.

I'm against banning on principle, but in this case I only regret that it's too late. Anything that would prevent '50 Shades of Grey' and similarly cheesy banal sex fantasies from getting attention in the culture or on this board is fine with me.

Who the hell are we talking about??

^ San Jose guy still.