Breadwinner

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Clackport

This is a little off topic, but in today's society what is considered a good salary for a man that has a wife and kids? Basically the man is the breadwinner in this situation.

I was thinking six figures, but then I saw the percentage of people making six figures isn't very high, so I don't know.

Thoughts?

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jackslash
9 yrs ago

I think a man who supports a non-working wife and 2 or 3 kids needs an income of at least $100,000 to live a comfortable life. As…

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rockstar666
9 yrs ago

It depends on if you take yearly vacations, go out a lot (or have a SC habit). I'm solid middle class but not rich, two kids through college,…

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pensionking
9 yrs ago

I'd say $250,000 is the new $100,000. Once upon a time, 6 figures meant something. Today, 6 figures means everybody gets to eat. Not much…

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rickdugan
9 yrs ago

I would say at least $100k if they want to do more than tread water. Perhaps a little less in parts of the deep south, where housing,…

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ATACdawg
9 yrs ago

Where you are living is also a factor. My house in Alexandria VA cost $542,000 and about $3600/mo. My remains balance is $272,000 and after a…

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Clackport
9 yrs ago

Just so we're clear, I don't mean that the guy is the only breadwinner, I mean he's the primary breadwinner. The wife could be doing something getting paid…

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Papi_Chulo
9 yrs ago

It is often the case that the more one earns the more one spends – many get caught up in “keeping up with the Joneses” and can barely…

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rockstar666
9 yrs ago

I'd live like a king on $100K all by myself. With a wife and kids, it makes that almost like minimum wage if you're really going to provide…

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Clackport
9 yrs ago

@Rockstar- In the past you've said you're a poor musician. Are you saying you make way more than 100K?

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Papi_Chulo
9 yrs ago

I would imagine you can find a lot of articles online about this subject from people that have researched it - if you are really interested in…

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pensionking
9 yrs ago

Good point Rockstar, sometimes I wonder if a divorce might feel like a pay raise!! Today, I am sure I get far less than 1/2 what I…

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dallas702
9 yrs ago

Out in the "real world" also known to the "extremely expensive edges" as "flyover country," an income of about $70,000 a year will support a family of 4,…

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jester214
9 yrs ago

It all depends on where you live and the kind of lifestyle you want.

You certainly don't need 250K a year seeing as how only a few percent of…

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shailynn
9 yrs ago

I think there can't be a set expectation on what is needed to earn across the country, but dallas702 explained it best.

Some of the variables that and the…

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jackslash
9 yrs ago

mikeya02, that was the most apropos cartoon I have ever seen.

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motorhead
9 yrs ago

Great post Dallas702

I live in "flyover country" and I was skimming through the classifieds at lunch today and there was a large "Help Wanted" ad for production workers…

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pensionking
9 yrs ago

I have to admit, geography matters a lot. My property taxes are $15K/yr. I live in a nice home, but even the shittiest of shithole homes…

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farmerart
9 yrs ago

I don't think any of you guys live the real rural life style. I know several families in my small rural community getting by on incomes in the…

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Dougster
9 yrs ago

Surprisingly to me apparently even in NYC $100k is good:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/08/29/income_distribution_of_new_york_city_what_does_it_take_to_be_rich.html

Guess RickyBoy and I can relax now knowing we don't have to be Gordon Gekkos to be doing…

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sharkhunter
9 yrs ago

I don't think we'd be going to strip clubs too much only making 30k nowadays unless we were living with someone else with hardly any expenses. I thought I…

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seaboardrr
9 yrs ago

Some people make $30K work. Others can't make $300K work. It all depends on lifestyle. I've got a 9yo paid off Jeep but it's in perfect condition and…

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sharkhunter
9 yrs ago

I buy things on sale and look for the best value for my money all the time. Best value means you get the biggest bang for the…

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JohnSmith69
9 yrs ago

Hard for me to imagine for less than $100K. But I'm not as frugal as many people are.

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lopaw
9 yrs ago

Here in LA you gotta make some serious 6 or 7 digit income if you want to live well and afford a lavish SC spending lifestyle.

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tobala
9 yrs ago

Seaboard nailed it. Don't spend money you don't have to impress people you don't like.

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sharkhunter
9 yrs ago

I saw a cost of living calculator on marketwatch.com It indicated I would need at least a 40% salary increase just to maintain my standard of living if I…

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sharkhunter
9 yrs ago

From what I heard if my house relocated to California, I would already be living in a million dollar home instead of one valued under $150k. I'm…

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crazyjoe
9 yrs ago

Move your house to Cali and sell it...then go clubbing

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Clackport
9 yrs ago

The next question is what the hell are some you guys doing to be making well into six figures?

You look online at the salaries making over 100K,…

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jester214
9 yrs ago

The numbers you are seeing deal with a lot of averages.

I know nurses making 100K+ working for Uncle Sam. It's all about finding the right position and putting…

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shailynn
9 yrs ago

Most jobs that pay 100K or more come with a lot of responsibility which usually equals stress.

If I know what I know now, I would have…

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tumblingdice
9 yrs ago

Ranky,going to this board for financial advice is like going to Jiffy Lube for Sushi.

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Dougster
9 yrs ago

I'm a professional RickyBoy basher.

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GACA
9 yrs ago

I barley make over $100k no kids, it's a decent living but married people with kids get a shit load of tax breaks. I have to hide a…

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bvino
9 yrs ago
    The median household income for a family of four is $45,623 (2014 census data). Half make more ,half make less.…
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rockstar666
9 yrs ago

@rankum: There's family money. I don't earn nearly enough to support my lifestyle so in a sense I'm a poor musician, but I'm not exactly starving.

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rockstar666
9 yrs ago

@rankum: My son is an engineer 2 years out of college and he's making close to 6 figures already. He said of all the engineering seniors, 75% had…

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sclvr5005
9 yrs ago

Engineers working for Fortune 500 companies can easily earn well into the 6 figures.

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seaboardrr
9 yrs ago

I wouldn't want to live in LA again. The cost of living is ridiculous. A $70K house here would be $300K out there.

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GoVikings
9 yrs ago

GACA....you make over 100K and have no kids and say it's a "decent living" lol

I'd say that's a lot better than just "decent"

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Mate27
9 yrs ago

We live a modest lifestyle, 3 bedroom 2 bath home, and make a little over $200k. However we only consume about $100k with almost half of our earnings…

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rockstar666
9 yrs ago

Like I said, if I lived by myself with just normal living expenses, I'd have a very comfortable life on $100k a year.

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GoVikings
9 yrs ago

Exactly rockstar....that's a shitload of money for ONE person

Don't get how GACA club thinks that's "decent"

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rickdugan
9 yrs ago

Vikings, if you make 100k per year and are single with no kids, then you are going home with 6,500 or so per month. Sounds like a…

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rickdugan
9 yrs ago

And when I say "everything" is so much less expensive, I mean housing, utilities, gasoline and property taxes.

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Mate27
9 yrs ago

^^^ and scoring OTC with a hooker at a dive club after spending 18 months to do so.

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shadowcat
9 yrs ago

Back in 1987 I was living and working in the Los Angels area where I was born. Due to a merger I had a choice of staying in…

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tumblingdice
9 yrs ago

It's not what you make,it's what you keep.Think of the IRS as someone who is trying to take your money.I used to own a restaurant in Jersey where…

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pensionking
9 yrs ago

That's awesome Tdice! I say that to people all the time . . .

It is not what you make, it is what you keep!! Words…

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Clackport
9 yrs ago

Great great insight!

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Papi_Chulo
9 yrs ago

w.r.t geography – my older cousin's daughter is in medical school in NYC – my cousin is well-off (self-made millionaire) – my cousin and his wife (they live…

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san_jose_guy
9 yrs ago

Part of what makes society seem so stressed now is that most guys don't make enough money to support a wife and children as they would like. …

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motorhead
9 yrs ago

"And then as James Carville says, they're ain't no line of those wanting to marry guys who can't pay the bills."

Marry? No. But if they have…

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mikeya02
9 yrs ago

"Of course where I am housing costs are so high that I really don't know what the income level would have to be"

It's your town, how do you…

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JohnSmith69
9 yrs ago

Miley, that's one is pretty obvious. He doesn't have to pay rent to his mom.

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DoctorPhil
9 yrs ago

@san_jose_guy

when you were saving up your pennies to send away for your mail order bride did it not occur to you that there would be ongoing costs? …

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san_jose_guy
9 yrs ago

@DoctorPhil, The last thing in the world that I would ever want is a mail order bride. Go back under whatever rock you came out from under.

SJG

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DoctorPhil
9 yrs ago

@san_jose_guy “The last thing in the world that I would ever want is a mail order bride.”

well i can certainly understand that after your experience with the first…

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sharkhunter
9 yrs ago

In one way, I'm kind of glad the company I work for never promoted me. Now whenever I want to, I can move to a higher paying…

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