My "CF" told me to go find a new girl

Find you a nice cheap dive bar and fuck those real sluts in da pussy wholez

Lol

Sorry 4 your lose

Ehhh, lose one CF and they'll be 2 more wanting the money she isn't getting anymore.

You're going to quickly find your 200 dollars buys a lot more than you've been getting.

What a miserable "fav." Why would you keep spending money on such a dancer who provides such incredibly low mileage? I think most of us would've dumped her after a couple of dances if not after a few minute conversation. Doesn't matter how hot she is. We can look at hot naked women for free all day. She's got to offer more to get the money.

Feel free to live vicariously through me if you want to, but anybody can do what I do. Well you might have to make some adjustments based on your budget, but if you were spending $200 a week on this girl you have enough money for some fun.

You'd have to give us more info to figure out why you stuck with such a non-performer, and to determine what you need to do to improve. But you and your money deserve a lot better than this ROB.

CF and you treated her "respectful" and never touched her pussy? Dude, you are a 9.5 on the PL Richter scale. Might think about getting a life one of these days?

For 6 months? Lol! What a loser.

"I was very respectful. Never touched her pussy or directly asked to see it. I hardly touched her boobs or kissed any part of her body."

This is your problem. If you treat strippers (or women in general) respectfully, they won't respect you. Be aggressive. Always push their limits. Squeeze her boobs, grab her pussy and let her know what you expect.

Dougster, compassionate and empathetic as usual. But the guy is consistent in his abuse, at least when his boy toy from San Jose is not involved.

6 months? That's a long term relationship. She might have gotten tired of you. She might come back around after 3 weeks so if you're busy with another girl, her loss.

Try to look at it this way. Your SC cash layout is the permanent part. The dancers are the temporary part. They come and go.

Why wouldn't you post a thank you to her? Seems like she was a lame, boring, waste of time and money. After many fun years with a favorite, I decided her dances were boring (not boring like this, but boring like having sex with the same woman for 10 years boring) and decided it was over. Didn't need a conversation at all. I stopped going for a month and when I went back I simply either made sure I was in a spot where she couldn't see me, or I was sitting with someone else. Last Friday it actually took me 20 minutes to realize she was sitting next to me at the bar while she worked her charms on another customer. She is classy enough to ignore me now, as I do her.

Bavarian you're in Dallas right? Should be easy to find a replacement.

You will need to decide if you want more out of your next stripper relationship. For comparison I had a stripper in a large metropolitan area drive 45 min each way to my hotel and have sex with me for $200. There are plenty of girls in your area willing to do that if that's what you want. You just have to take the time and use your assertiveness to find them.

"I had been a regular of hers for 6 months. I was very respectful. Never touched her pussy or directly asked to see it. I hardly touched her boobs or kissed any part of her body. After a while, this gets monotonous."

This is the "not brilliant" part Bavarian! It fine for her to set boundaries and you should respect those boundaries, but there is no harm in asking!

Here's how 4got would have handled this dancer on the first night!

stripper - "hey babe, wanna dance!"
4got - "sure! I'll try one!"

Now we're in the back room, during the first dance!

4got - "can I see your pussy?"
stripper - "no!"

Song ends!

4got - "that was nice! Here's your money! I'm going to hang out and watch the other girls!"

Brilliant! :)

WTF? YOU are the customer. Why keep going to the same restaurant if the food is bad and the service is not up to your standards???? She did you a favor.

He stuck around for months and months, dropping loads of $$ on her, despite the fact that the experience was "monotonous", because he developed an unhealthy crush on her -- why else would someone stick around and pay so much $ for bad service? The strip club is a bad place to be if you crush on the dancers easily

Wow. The untouchable princesses on stripperweb would love you.

Yeah. This guy is a stripper web girl's dream come true...

Every comment on here is right on the beam. I spent $80 last night on dances and a hj. Plus I got to touch her pussy and tits and kiss her. And she was hot. Who is getting the better value? Dude, move on, she ain't worth the time you are spending pinning over her loss.

Just keep doing what you're doing. You seem to be getting what you want out of your favorites, which is frustration and contempt. Whatever makes you (un)happy, dude.

Or you could look into the services of a dominatrix.

Bavarian, don't be discouraged by the more harsh comments. We are all PLs, and we have all been ripped off in various ways by strippers over the years. Just hang around and learn from us, and from your mistakes. You'll be fucking strippers for a few hundred before you know it.

JS69 is right. I've had experiences wasting way too much money for way too long. That's how I learned the ropes. Eventually you get a...um...'system' that works for them which usually is just recognizing when it's time to cut bait. I saw my last potential regular 3 times before I cut her off because I could see not only wouldn't she fuck me for free, she also wouldn't fuck me for money! She left the club soon thereafter; I imagine she wasn't making enough money.

Listen to Dougster, he is THE EXPERT on how to pay hookers for sex:

https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…

SJG

@chandler: How about a spew warning next time, eh? My phone is all wet now thanks to you.

I've found the best way to deal with strippers, and women in general, is to tell them exactly what you want, when you want it. The last time I wanted a lap dance, I told the girl "some time tonight, you're going to try to sell me a dance. I'll say yes, and then I'm going to use you like a piece of meat." She did, and I did. Easy peasy.

Dancers want to make the mo$t for doing the least – you are the paying customer and are entitled to get fair value for your $$$ - somebody has to wear the pants and for many PLs they allow the dancers to wear-them/dictate-*all*-the-rules – you are entitled to get *fair* value (within reason) for your $$$; not sit back and depend on the crumbs she may want to give you. You need to man up some, if not women/strippers will walk all over you and you'll be left with a severe case of blue-balls and an empty wallet where the $$$ she ROBed you out of she is using to buy dinner and clothes for the guy she is fucking-for-free/BF.

We go to strip-clubs so we can get what we want/need; not to be jerked around, manipulated, and be cock-blocked.


“... I'm not going to lie. I am bummed out at the moment ...”

That may be your problem – you seem too apathetic – you should have a “fuck her; it's her loss” attitude – you are the one paying her and on top of that you are letting her jerk you around – i.e. you are paying for punishment and abuse and seemingly little else.


Having said all this; dancers *are* still women and as many women they can take things the wrong way and have their feelings easily hurt – for most women; their looks are very important to them especially for strippers – you mentioning to her you didn't like her bikini or anything else will most likely not illicit a positive response from most strippers – it's okay to ask for what you want but ask for it in a more subtle less punitive manner and if she still does not get the hint or does not care what you want/like; then only thing left is to move on – it's just a business relationship and you need to be more cognizant of that.

As usual Papi speaks wisdom. Dancers are VERY vain about their looks because it's their entire worth. I always compliment my ATF even though she hears it all day from every PL. No dancer is going to change anything for you unless you are a significant part of their lives, either because of your money or, *ahem* she 'likes' you. 99% of the time, it's far better to find a dancer who floats your boat exactly as she is.

One small caveat though: Because girls always hear compliments, especially the 8+ ones, they don't take any compliment seriously. A tactful criticizim delivered correctly can do wonders, like if she asks, "Do you like this green costume?" You might say, "It looks great on you, but red is really your color." Pretty girls respect that you don't just always agree with them. But you CAN'T say, "No, that costume makes you look fat"....!!!!

Even when this homo Bavarian pays he gets dumped. What a complete loser!

“... I had been a regular of hers for 6 months. I was very respectful. Never touched her pussy or directly asked to see it. I hardly touched her boobs or kissed any part of her body ...”

Contrast this to londonguy's latest German FKK review (we are so fucked, in a bad way, in the U.S.):


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londonguy's latest FKK review:

When I went to FKK Oase for the first time I was mega impressed, the building, theme and not least the quality of the girls was just so good. That was until I visited FKK Sharks for the first time on my recent FKK weekend. I arrived on Saturday just after noon, the 25 minute train journey from Frankfurt seemed like an eternity. After eventually arriving at the station I hot foot it out to the Taxi rank, the driver has his window open and as I approach and without me saying a word he says to me "FKK Sharks" ?Like did I really look like a typical Brit (or American) seeking the holy land. 10 minutes later we pull up outside Sharks, right behind a garage or something or other in a built up area. So I go in and the taxi driver hangs back a little to come in later for his 20 Euro or whatever. I pay the girl on the desk 60 Euro or so and go through the customary chit chat for first time visitors.

After paying I briefly look into the main room before going in to get out of my clothes and come out showered and stark bollock naked, well apart from a bath robe and some disinfected footwear. So I enter the room and put my valuables into the little lockers typical of the FKK system. I am very impressed at this stage, great décor and a huge room dominated by a large central oval shaped bar - and I mean large. It's just after noon and I check out the dozen or so girls there, they were all fuckable and not one less than an eight. I wonder around a bit more, nice places to explore before going upstairs to the upper level where I find a whirlpool and a few 'caves' for fucking the babes. There's also a relaxing area for guys to chill out. I take a seat and before I know it two brunette Hungarian babes join me, they waste no time, between them I was sitting between them with my robe completely open and they were playing with my stiff as a rod of iron dick, I could have easily done them there and then and they would have let me. I made my excuses and left them, making sure my hard-on had died down before walking down the large open stair case, otherwise my erection would have been obvious poking out of the robe.

I wandered around the club more, discovering places like the Kino and wellness area, all really nice. Oh and also the massive indoor aquarium situated across several VIP rooms. Onto the outside and found nice areas to relax and more places to shag your prey. Another bar and a huge b-b-q area, this was very impressive indeed and I thought the layout better than Oase. There is an indoor eating area, there is food available most of the day with different meals available at different times. The food is very good, no burgers and fries, just fresh wholesome food and salad. I'd say this club is bigger than Oase in sq ft but it's basically a one building in regular shape whereas Oase has corridors and rooms all over the place.

Ok...the girls....like describing just how beautiful most of these girls are is nigh on impossible. I was in the Kino and this black girl comes in....Papi, this is when I thought of you...she was awesome and my god did she have magic fingers and a silver tongue, she oozed sex appeal. She was about 5ft 5in with incredible legs and tits, perfect nipples. She told me she was Cuban - Papi, you like Cubans? I was very tempted to take her to the room and give her a good nailing. How I didn't say yes is amazing now I think of it. But there is always the search for something better so I spend a bit of time chilling her and there and knocking back babes that on any other day back in England I'd jump at the chance of shagging.

After a while I went and sat at the bar, was drinking for while, girls came and went and dick was rising to attention when it was given the chance. That's when I saw her.....oh my fucking god....it was one of those times when your jaw seems to dislocate and hit the ground. Lie she was just SO pretty and what a package. Gorgeous big honey blond hair with tight curls, a long slender body, awesome tits but hell, if I ever see a prettier girl facially I will be VERY surprised. Maybe my big smile gave the game away, whatever, I gave the signal that I was her victim and she came across. I tried not to splutter my words, keeping calm and relaxed but it was an effort, she was just amazing. She was Moldovan and spoke English well. After some chit chat I told her I was going for a shower and would come back for a session. I got to the shower and for the first time in years the anticipation was so great I started to get a stiffy, fortunately I was in a semi-private area so none of the guys saw me...I managed to contain myself by thinking of a soccer club in England I hate, I was actually physically laughing at this point and am now as I write this.

Anyway enough of this shit....I come out and there she is waiting for me. My jello laden legs managed to get my upper torso across to her, we linked arms and she led me into a room. The sex was as good as I hoped. I've had better but I can count the better ones on two hands and I've fucked a fair few strippers, escorts and civvies over the years. She was so incredible, lovely touches all over me and exquisite BBBJ, lots of attention to the boys, shaft licking and horny eye contact. We fucked in all the usual positions, an hour later I was done for and she led me down the long staircase back into the main room. I then paid her, gave her a nice tip and she kissed me on both cheeks before we parted.

It took me a while to get over this, fortunately time was on my side and relaxed and ate before finally deciding on two more hot babes to nail. It's so very difficult to chose when there is between 50-80 or so girls walking around seeking out guys or relaxed in small numbers waiting for guys to approach them. This is what I did with my third girl, a petite Romanian with long black hair and a killer body. I hadn't seen her before and I was intrigued so went and joined her. She was lovely and I just knew I had to have her, so off to the room we went for awesome sex session number three, she had a lovely littlie ass - great to view when I was doing her doggysyte. I think you guys would describe her as a spinner, and there were many girls with the same figure.

I was so tempted to have a duo of girls and there are pairs that circulate offering it, full lesbian show and you can join in and fuck them both. one pair offered me it and told me they love to kiss each other and promptly French kissed in front of me - they were really going for it and one was rubbing the others crutch whilst they were doing it.

Guys, if you ever make it to Germany you MUST go to this place if it's the only FKK you ever visit.

The thing is I have reports on other clubs near Dusseldorf that tell me one or two near there are just as good so I am going there soon

Thanks for sharing that Papi. Now in comparison the club that I'm going to tonight will feel like a pathetic low mileage wasteland full of disgusting old hags. I'm gonna have to smoke enough weed until I trick myself into believing instead that I'm really in Germany!

Just shake it off and move on to the next girl. I know you're getting a lot of criticism here, but just take it as constructive criticism, learn from it, and apply it moving forward.

@Dougster...

Still think it takes less than 10 years to learn how to pay hooked for sex?

@Bavarian the System buddy, the System.

Thanks for all the great advice, gentlemen.

Part of my problem is that I have all my eggs in one basket with this stripper. If she blows me off, I have no other strippers I like or civvies to turn to.

I just can't have someone I like, be mad at me. It makes me apathetic like Papi said. Just because I like her, does not mean I am trying to be her boyfriend. I guess you can call it a crush.

I don't like to be moping around, so I had to reach out to her and apologize for calling her uptight. I might not be getting any mileage from her but as long as we are in good terms, I'm happy.

I guess for me, value for my $ is not measured in how much mileage I can get, but how good I feel about myself.

Bavarian – you should really make an effort to make our next TUSCL meet so we can slap you around and get some sense into you

:)

Holy shit! Agree with JS69, thanks for posting that comparison Papi. It's a big world out there, time to go explore it. Those FKKs sound like paradise and here I am just getting crumbs.

Papi, If you ever come back to Dallas again, it would be an honor to meet you at Baby Dolls. I will also make an effort to go to Miami and meet you at Tootsies.

^ much obliged – thank you for the compliment

Never spend with a dancer hoping to get this or that "eventually", even if she explicitly hints or says that it will. Get dances from the dancers whose dances please you, not based on some expectation of being pleased in the future. Just say no to the Whimpy strippers. No I will gladly blow you Tuesday for buying 5 lap dances today.

"I had been a regular of hers for 6 months. I was very respectful. Never touched her pussy or directly asked to see it. I hardly touched her boobs or kissed any part of her body. After a while, this gets monotonous."

Sounds like a ricky boy system disciple

What a fuckin faggot !!!

Bavarian, I'm sure all the guys are going to think this is horrible stripperweb advice, but if you really like her, I have an idea. Buy her an outfit you would like to see her dance in as an apology for insulting her bikini. Papi is right - women get sensitive about shit like that. If she won't wear it then cut your losses and move on to a dancer who is more your style and less bitchy. Sounds like she may have some emotional problems, but she's a stripper, so I guess that's redundant;)

Definition of Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

After that long a time, her deal was pretty clear. It sounds like you were more trouble than you were worth to her. There is only so many times that a girl is going to take shit from a guy for her clothing, boundaries, etc., before she walks, whether she is getting paid or not.

Dude, I can't believe she didn't tell you to find a different girl a long, long time ago. She may have been your "CF" for 6 mos, but you wouldn't have been my "CF" custie for a week! You have absolutely nothing nice to say about this girl, I hardly believe you had nothing nice to say to her in PVT other than "Nice cameltoe!"

I've had some crazy dances from girls I showed some real appreciation. (You'll be surprised what even conservative girls will do if you show them some appreciation). The only appreciation you showed this girl in six months is how you "did NOT" appreciate her style, or the best bikini she could afford.

I've also had some pretty tame dances from girls I showed some real appreciation. Maybe she was lame. Maybe I wasn't her type. But she didn't have to tell me 6 months later to find a different girl. I paid her and said, "thank-you, that was awesome" and got a better dance from someone more my speed.

Save some harsh words for yourself, and find a different girl.

I really hope for her sake that she has a few other regulars on standby because $200 a week is not worth the time to work at a strip club. ANd you said that's how much you GIVE her, not how much she takes home. Perhaps if she loses all her regulars through getting insulted, she'll probably come back.

damn, I can't believe I just posted on an old thread.

Necrothread. And here I thought he had ANOTHER dancer who finally had enough of him. Hopefully he's a little wiser these days.

Women do need to be handled carefully, but I think the OP is creating his problems himself.

SJG

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The OP puts the Pathetic in PL.
He puts the Loser in it too.

Shit. I hardly remember writing this.
For better or for worse, she continues to be my CF...

Now that you've spent another $6000 or so on her, have you been able to touch a tittie yet?

My apologies to the regs for reviving NecroThread. I was drunk. I barely remember it. But I did it. The OP pissed me off and I came all up in it like a Pledge in Matriculation. My bad.

That being said, Bavarian, either ask this girl to (flash her pussy in VIP, meet you OTC, or just fucking MARRY YOU) or find a different girl. You've spent enough time and money on your obsession with this girl (10K in 12 mos by your own confession). If I provide that much of a girl's taxable income in one year, she better damn well be DEDUCTABLE (ie my WIFE!)

I'm done with this thread.

PS - *almost* done...I wish this girl had a profile on TUSCL. I'd love to read her side of the story in one or two parts. I'm sure it would enlighten some...entertain others.

^Maybe . . but her story could almost write itself if one understands women and/or dancers on some level. I really sympathize with the poor woman.