When do you think you'll call it quits? Hang up your scing career for good? A certain age perhaps? Maybe go from club to club downing viagra and fucking strippers til your heart or wallet gives out? For me i think it will be when the girls would be the same age as my grand kids but at only 21 maybe mu opinion will change with age. Just curious what your guys end game is.
I've started to think about this, probably too much. I've got plenty of juice left in me in my late 50s, but I see men in clubs who are easily in their 70s and maybe beyond. More power to the shadowcats out there that are still working it, but I do wonder if I will still be doing this at that age. Another thread asked about clubbing after retirement, which ties into this question as well. I would like my SC activity to go on, but I expect that lifestyle changes and the lack of work-related travel will put a big crimp in my club opportunities.
I'm 74, and I'm in clubs whenever a don't have a go to girl, and lots of times when I do. A different experience and lots of variety as opposed to one or two chicks. A go to girl is probably the cheapest, clubs can be expensive, but are a bargain compared to real girl friends/wives.
At what age is a healthy male supposed to stop being attracted to, and stop desiring, good-looking naked women?
Why does one need to “give it up”? What are you going to replace it with? Where else is an avg guy; especially an older guy; going to have young beautiful naked women all over him and in some cases fucking him and giving him a blowjob?
Most of us SC b/c we have a need that is being met by the SC –for many, if you stop SCing then all you are left is your needs being unmet (i.e. blue-balls).
if one thinks they should stop SCing b/c somehow it’s a problem; I suggest that SCing is not really the problem but a symptom of the true problem. One SCs for a reason; if one stops SCing it does not mean that reason goes away.
Maybe it should be looked at from a different perspective – i.e. why not take advantage of what we have instead of looking for reasons why we should stop going – enjoy it while you can b/c tomorrow is not promised to anyone.
One day we may not be able to SC even if we want to either b/c of health or financial reasons; etc – so why not do it while we can – when you are 80; are you going to think back about all the $$$ that you saved from not SCing and feel good about that; or are you going to look back at the memories of SCing and have a smile in your toothless mouth :).
My comments are not meant as gospel; just some food for thought.
jackslash actually put it very simply in another thread a couple of weeks ago when he said “life without strip clubs would be boring” – and I def concur – I can’t think of anything that is more fun than strip clubs – but that’s just me and my PL self.
I plan to keep going until I die. I do recognize that this may require me to hire private talent to dance in the dining room of my nursing home, but I'm willing to make that sort of investment. The only thing I can see that could possibly screw up this plan is if I marry my DS and we live happily ever after in a sexual utopia.
For me SC's and AMP's are recruiting venues. As an ends in and of themselves, they always have been limited. What they offer is expensive, and the quality is often less than it might be, not GFE enough. But as a source of women who are potentially radical in their political views, these venues will remain good for a long as I am physically able to walk into them, or even to send proxies.
In other places, the women lead normal lives, and they have normative ideas. So basically they are useless.
I'm 60 and enjoy the hobby more now than when I was 50. I enjoyed it more then than I did at 40. I expect to still be strip clubbing when I'm 70 and beyond, even if I'm one of those old coots who pay dancers to cuddle with them in the VIP room for half an hour. As long as my eyes can see naked chicks and my dick can get hard, I'll be clubbing!
Ranukam, that'll last for a few years once you get married. Then she'll get tired of sex, you won't, and you will be back clubbing stronger than ever. If I had it to do over, I'd just start clubbing from the beginning of the marriage. No need to put off the inevitable.
Applause to Papi for thinking it through. Great case.
I've said before that I think I'll go until I don't believe the girls could actually be interested in me anymore for anything other than my cash. I know that's probably all they're interested in from me now, but at least I'm still young enough (32) and baby-faced enough to think a 20-something chick might think I'm doable with enough drinks in her. When I feel to fat or wrinkly for that to even seem plausible, then I'm not going to try and pay someone to try and b.s. me and my ego when I don't even believe it when I try to b.s. myself.
Do you mean that you don't use Viagra? I never have either. But I am also not what I was 15 years ago. The issue is just that I think that most of the change is psychological, from tough experiences in relating to women.
But do you think that the behavioral change which has resulted from the existence of such drugs is a big part of why these UHM strip clubs exist?
@sjg: "Is visceral contempt for marriage the most central issue for TUSCLers?"
This is the comment to which I was referring. Sorry for not making that clear.
I have no contempt for marriage, neither with regard to my own, nor marriage in general. I *do* fee some contempt for those people who insist that there is only one type of legitimate marriage, and that all others are abominations. Despite history.
So then I am assuming that you have no serious negative issues about your own marriage, and that you are adamant that marriage can work in various ways, according to the desires of the two adult partners.
Since you mention your own marriage, may I be so bold as to ask, are you straight with your spouse about all that you do with strippers?
Do you think marital partners need to always be straight with each other?
Do you think marriage is at least potentially a very dangerous trap, if not for you, then for most people?
"I *do* feel some contempt for those people who insist that there is only one type of legitimate marriage, and that all others are abominations. Despite history. "
With me and my ex-wife, I wanted our marriage to be a partnership. By this I mean two adults who were consenting to work together and make life good. I specifically wanted insulation from what the media and other outside people were putting out, as I saw that to be corrosive.
But I did accept monogamy as a necessary concession. I would be faithful to her, as I knew that she could not live in a situation where that was absent.
But I did not want to be having to "keep up with the Joneses" and I did not want her to be always under the influence of her friends.
But none of this worked. She was actually a conduit for me to be continually subjected to pressure and invalidation of all types.
I was usually not 100% faithful. I went to our no touching strip clubs and to AMPs. But for long intervals I even stopped this. I tried to make it work with her. But no matter what, she just was not willing to actually be a partner. She would not allow us to be two people who communicated openly and found ways to resolve our differences, and then supported each other.
No, she always operated by pressure tactics and by not communicating and keeping her intentions hidden, and she was always being influenced by advertising, and especially by her friends. It became a nightmare. I did everything in my power to try and make it work. I held out the olive branch. But at the same time in the end I worked to have her removed from the home and made subject to court orders.
So George, if you have got something which really works, in any form that two adults are comfortable with, that is fantastic.
I guess since this thread has been bumped, I can now add no. 4, which is I move somewhere where there is no strip clubs, which is something quite possible for me in the future.
I plan on quitting when a bunch of hot college age girls seem to have a big craving to give me bj's whenever I think about visiting a strip club and the orgy lasts too long to bother visiting a strip club.
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Why does one need to “give it up”? What are you going to replace it with? Where else is an avg guy; especially an older guy; going to have young beautiful naked women all over him and in some cases fucking him and giving him a blowjob?
Most of us SC b/c we have a need that is being met by the SC –for many, if you stop SCing then all you are left is your needs being unmet (i.e. blue-balls).
if one thinks they should stop SCing b/c somehow it’s a problem; I suggest that SCing is not really the problem but a symptom of the true problem. One SCs for a reason; if one stops SCing it does not mean that reason goes away.
Maybe it should be looked at from a different perspective – i.e. why not take advantage of what we have instead of looking for reasons why we should stop going – enjoy it while you can b/c tomorrow is not promised to anyone.
One day we may not be able to SC even if we want to either b/c of health or financial reasons; etc – so why not do it while we can – when you are 80; are you going to think back about all the $$$ that you saved from not SCing and feel good about that; or are you going to look back at the memories of SCing and have a smile in your toothless mouth :).
My comments are not meant as gospel; just some food for thought.
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In other places, the women lead normal lives, and they have normative ideas. So basically they are useless.
SJG
I've said before that I think I'll go until I don't believe the girls could actually be interested in me anymore for anything other than my cash. I know that's probably all they're interested in from me now, but at least I'm still young enough (32) and baby-faced enough to think a 20-something chick might think I'm doable with enough drinks in her. When I feel to fat or wrinkly for that to even seem plausible, then I'm not going to try and pay someone to try and b.s. me and my ego when I don't even believe it when I try to b.s. myself.
1. I die
2. I get married
3. I find something more interesting to spend money on.
At this point, I am going with #1.
Is Viagra the primary reason for the proliferation of UHM strip clubs?
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SJG
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Do you mean that you don't use Viagra? I never have either. But I am also not what I was 15 years ago. The issue is just that I think that most of the change is psychological, from tough experiences in relating to women.
But do you think that the behavioral change which has resulted from the existence of such drugs is a big part of why these UHM strip clubs exist?
SJG
This is the comment to which I was referring. Sorry for not making that clear.
I have no contempt for marriage, neither with regard to my own, nor marriage in general. I *do* fee some contempt for those people who insist that there is only one type of legitimate marriage, and that all others are abominations. Despite history.
So then I am assuming that you have no serious negative issues about your own marriage, and that you are adamant that marriage can work in various ways, according to the desires of the two adult partners.
Since you mention your own marriage, may I be so bold as to ask, are you straight with your spouse about all that you do with strippers?
Do you think marital partners need to always be straight with each other?
Do you think marriage is at least potentially a very dangerous trap, if not for you, then for most people?
SJG
Yes. In general. I don't share specifics of who and what, except for one case.
Yes. I also think any marriage in which that isn't true is doomed to failure, sooner or later.
Yes.
That's the time I will hang it.
Thanks,
SJG
"I *do* feel some contempt for those people who insist that there is only one type of legitimate marriage, and that all others are abominations. Despite history. "
With me and my ex-wife, I wanted our marriage to be a partnership. By this I mean two adults who were consenting to work together and make life good. I specifically wanted insulation from what the media and other outside people were putting out, as I saw that to be corrosive.
But I did accept monogamy as a necessary concession. I would be faithful to her, as I knew that she could not live in a situation where that was absent.
But I did not want to be having to "keep up with the Joneses" and I did not want her to be always under the influence of her friends.
But none of this worked. She was actually a conduit for me to be continually subjected to pressure and invalidation of all types.
I was usually not 100% faithful. I went to our no touching strip clubs and to AMPs. But for long intervals I even stopped this. I tried to make it work with her. But no matter what, she just was not willing to actually be a partner. She would not allow us to be two people who communicated openly and found ways to resolve our differences, and then supported each other.
No, she always operated by pressure tactics and by not communicating and keeping her intentions hidden, and she was always being influenced by advertising, and especially by her friends. It became a nightmare. I did everything in my power to try and make it work. I held out the olive branch. But at the same time in the end I worked to have her removed from the home and made subject to court orders.
So George, if you have got something which really works, in any form that two adults are comfortable with, that is fantastic.
SJG