On an OTC Mission...
GACA
Un-retired: Met my ATF. Married her. Divorcing her.
I went to a dive I used to frequent, it had been a long while since I dropped in. Fortunately the dancer I used to hang out with was there so we started hanging out again.
Enter "new girl". I saw her on stage threw a few dollars and told her to come see me near the back. She did, and me and the "old dancer" were hanging out with "new girl".
It was a slow night. Obviously I paid new girl for a few dances. (Old girl got charity too, but she in friend zone so we don't do dances). We hung out for three hours just talking shit about other customers and dancers. When old girl has to do her stage show I get the new girl to do dances for me. At one point I get up to the bathroom new girl smacks my ass, I tell her I'm charging her for it. So the mood was relaxed and fun to say the least.
It a no contact club but new girl is doing her best to make it feel good playing with my hair, putting her tits in my face (Blah blah blah)
It's a work nite so I have to get home before they close, I tell new girl I'm leaving (old girl is on stage). of course she starts telling me please don't go you're the only cool person here (SS) I said "no I'm going but I want to look at your rack one more time before I do so get on the pole and do your thing"
After she's done, she gives me the stripper hug along with old girl who showed up as I was heading out the door.
New girl never told me her real name just her stripper name, new girl never offered to give out her number or get mine. Old Girl did send me a text thanking me for showing up and said she had so much fun. But I do not want OTC with the "old girl" so please nobody suggest that.
The reason why these girls work at this dive and not at PP Cola is because they say they will not do "extras" and therefore couldn't compete with other dancers (SS at its finest). There is no VIP in this dive or I would have worked it.
I'd like to get OTC with this "new girl" and I'm just wondering how others would play this one out.
Thanks in advanced for NOT posting typical crazyjoe, slauxpas, Dougster answers...
Enter "new girl". I saw her on stage threw a few dollars and told her to come see me near the back. She did, and me and the "old dancer" were hanging out with "new girl".
It was a slow night. Obviously I paid new girl for a few dances. (Old girl got charity too, but she in friend zone so we don't do dances). We hung out for three hours just talking shit about other customers and dancers. When old girl has to do her stage show I get the new girl to do dances for me. At one point I get up to the bathroom new girl smacks my ass, I tell her I'm charging her for it. So the mood was relaxed and fun to say the least.
It a no contact club but new girl is doing her best to make it feel good playing with my hair, putting her tits in my face (Blah blah blah)
It's a work nite so I have to get home before they close, I tell new girl I'm leaving (old girl is on stage). of course she starts telling me please don't go you're the only cool person here (SS) I said "no I'm going but I want to look at your rack one more time before I do so get on the pole and do your thing"
After she's done, she gives me the stripper hug along with old girl who showed up as I was heading out the door.
New girl never told me her real name just her stripper name, new girl never offered to give out her number or get mine. Old Girl did send me a text thanking me for showing up and said she had so much fun. But I do not want OTC with the "old girl" so please nobody suggest that.
The reason why these girls work at this dive and not at PP Cola is because they say they will not do "extras" and therefore couldn't compete with other dancers (SS at its finest). There is no VIP in this dive or I would have worked it.
I'd like to get OTC with this "new girl" and I'm just wondering how others would play this one out.
Thanks in advanced for NOT posting typical crazyjoe, slauxpas, Dougster answers...
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At the same time the strippers at this club can't be making that much money their clientele looks fucking broke to tell you the truth, so I'm wondering how much money is a lot of money to these strippers.
I'm into thick (not fat, size 9/10 is good) slutty white chick's like Papi is into choclate.
All sex workers are used to being asked straight out for sex. If you connect in the right way, sometimes it's relatively free (it's never totally "free"). If you start getting OTC relatively free, just be aware that the free service might be cut off once your friend realizes she could be getting paid.
How do you generally approach dancers? I've done everything from directly asking if they fuck outside the club to hinting that it'd sure be nice to take a pretty girl like her out sometime, depending on the girl, club and situation. In general, the more direct approach, without being rude or insulting, works best for me.
My approach :
#1get her away by herself in a dark corner.
#2 (I realize it is a no touching club but that doesn't mean you can't touch her lol.) Be playful with her and start caressing her at the table whispering in her ear how fucking hot she is how beautiful she is and at some point after a couple visits tell her you would really like to fuck her. If she says no keep telling her how good you think she would be in bed. Throw CS at her (Custie Shit) until she gives in and you're headed to the hotel. Don't even mention money unless she asks. Just lay on the charm. She has already started laying it on you now give it back to her. I would be fucking her OTC in less than 3 or 4 visits to the club. There has not been one girl who I've wanted to fuck that I haven't got my dick in yet. But you git to let her know what you want slowly and convince her with CS.
I was tempted to do it that nite, I got the vibe that she was having a good time, but not the vibe where she trust me. Especially when I asked towards the end what her name was again, and she paused for a second, and said her stripper name again.
I've done it in the past and also my modus when I am driving and waiting for the light to turn green.
Us men (and lopaw); will fuck a woman at first sight w/o even needing to know her name – women in “general” are like crockpots that take time to warm up (were we men/lopaw are instant microwaves).
Many experienced OTCer PLs often comment on needing to establish some kind of a rapport w/ a dancer for a while so she can get to know and be more comfortable w/ the PL – makes sense this may be necessary or at least be helpful with a dancer that is not pro extras.
Since you said it’s a no contact club – perhaps you can, at one point; suggest a private (non-sex) show OTC as a sorta halfway point and then take it from there.
o/w – just take a trip to Detroit.- seems there are plenty of slutty thick whitegirls there.
“… You cannot force open the petals of a flower – when the flower is ready; it opens itself up to you …”
The above line starts at ~1:50 into the clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mTUmczV…
My suggestion You need to keep going back and focusing on her only. Let her know that you want her and only her. That's what I do. I make them think at least that they are so hot and so beautiful that I don't want anyone else but them. I spend all my money on them. I turn on the "love machine" and pretty soon in just a few visits I am fucking her at the hotel. I kiss them and hug them make out with them nonstop DFK etc if the club doesn't say anything. I do as much touching and carressing and kissing as i can along with lots of sweet words in their ear. Like you are just so hot babe i would love to fuck you. Or babe i bet you are lots of fun in bed i just wanna fuck you so bad. I have OTC agreements in 3 different cities with 3 different girls and only one of the girls knows about the other 2. That's because I confide in her and get advice from her about the other 2. But she's cool with it and wants me to have fun. I have had lots of OTC over the years. Some I have had to fire and some I've lost track of but I'm doing OTC once a week now with the 3 and am working on a 4th but she has been the hardest yet to convince. I've been with her 3 times and we haven't got to the hotel yet. She is married with a 2 year old child and that is making it harder but I will score it won't be long.
Funny you mentioned that, there is one club where I visit this dancer, and she is a tough nut to crack, been seeing her for one year now and she already asked me go OTC but due to lack of money, or the shortness of it, because I was channeling to another dancer, I wandered away from her. But now, I am courting her real strong and she is responding again to the point where she would ask me out. Yesterday night I was with my CF doing the 'Love Machine' and she texted me to go her so we could have some fun. But my CF won't let me go, so there you go.
I do have a rule that I only have one GFE in each town. The girls can get very jealous and you don't want to end up in a Lorena Bobbit situation. I would definitely pursue this other girl and keep her within close reach. One mistake I've made is not having a backup plan in case your CF bails on you.
1. Yes. All you have to do is set up the specifics time place price.
2. No. I don't do that. Give up and move on.
3. Maybe. If this is the answer explore her conditions but beware that she may just be leading you on to get you to keep spending in her at the club.
We *are* PLs – I think you are expecting a bit too much from us :)
I was in Barcelona Spain several years back in a very fine restaurant. I was sitting alone at a table and happened to notice a very beautiful young lady come in and she was seated alone as well. After about 15 or 20 minutes I figured no one would be joining her so I said what the heck. I went over to her table and struck up a conversation with her best I could not know in much Spanish. Within a little over an hour we were at her house fucking away. She got mad at me when I pulled out though and got some semen on her bed spread. So I agree sex in Europe is more available and less regulated than here in the US.
Moral: There's always new fish in the sea, and if you can't catch the one you want than cut bait and try another spot. DO NOT WASTE TIME ON THIS DANCER!
New girls is pretty hot, but not drop dead Kate Upton hot, so if she says "no" then no big deal. I have yet to do OTC (four months in to serious clubbing) and just wanted to pop that cherry, with a worthwhile dancer asap.
Have you read RickyBoy's The System?
Sorry, bro, can't help it. Lemme tell you a story.
In this club, called Club A, there is one dancer (Dancer X) that I go to visit everytime when she sends me a text message. We've been friends for two years now and I like the way she treats me.
Three weeks ago, a new dancer (Dancer Y) just got hired, she is one hell of a pretty dancer, but her beauty had no effect on me, until she started hanging out with me for no reason other than I-have-no-idea-why.
Dancer X told me "Stay out of trouble" and I did agree to that so I stuck with Dancer X no matter what because I get good mileage from her.
Dancer Y, knows very well she is one top shelf and she knows how to play the game well. She would always find a way to hang with me, and I couldn't help but buy at least one dance from her simply because I had to compensate her in one way or another. She would show me her photo album and tell me all about her private life and stuff I should not be knowing about. It's all in my head now, that useless junk, her game to fill my head about her that soon things will be in her favor.
Most dancers in the club know I am Dancer X customer, but now Dancer Y is challenging that.
Inside the booth, Dancer Y is doing her damn best to impress me, but I know later on when Dancer X pulls back on me with just a so-so lapdance, I will lose the one who gives awesome mileage.
I agree what you said was right, but I can't help it when there are two lovely awesome bodies I am kissing in the booth.