Tell us about your ATF
GroovnHigh
California
So I first saw this girl at Adelitas Bar in TJ. She was my second girl of the night. First girl was pretty good. I remember going back into the club after eating some tacos and taking a break. Anyways, I was able to get her to do FS with a BBBJ. It cost 60 at this club. I did it, and we did the deed, I came in the condom. She then said to come back tomorrow and she'll give me FS without the condom. I said fuck it, I'll do it tonight lol. So i ended up seeing her two more times that night. She did CIP, and BBBJCIM and swallowed :) Marvelous first experience. Think I spent like 400 bucks that night lol. She knows how to work the money, but in the end, I don't pay more than I would with the average US girl of this quality
Seen her twice since then. Every time has been great. She's true GFE. We make out a lot, and do a lot of 69ing as well. Strange enough, she doesn't let you finger inside her. I was actually planning on going down there tonight, but she said she's not going to be working. I'm gonna be in next week though. Can't wait!
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Not as cheap as Tijuana but one hell of a lot less likely to become a statistic (and I do not speak Spanish and have no desire to learn). The only problem that night was bumping into the Nuvi Ring periodically when doing CG. Less of a problem in MIsh and Doggie. Never did go bareback with her ever though she claimed even though it got her off (the whole shooting hot stuffed feeling thing she explained to me quite graphically) and only went bareback with a select few who turned her on big time. (yeh me the fat old balding white guy turns her on?) ROTHFLOL
She even said that to me with a straight face, maybe she has a grandfather fixation but more likely a sugar daddy fixation! She was likely turned on more by what was in my back pocket (wallet) rather than what was behind my fly.
An ATF can be many things to many, it seems. To me, it is a special woman that you enjoy spending your time with, and you happened to meet her in a SC.
Clubber, the glossary governs, and it says an ATF is simply your favorite dancer. I think for the vast majority of us that would involve a girl that we are having sex with, but sex is not required.
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My favorite tuscl fagg is ricky boy
Sorry.
The PSG club was nice until it burned and Toledo started cracking down. I got pretty crazy on football night.
I agree with what you said, but all I had read was related to sex, ergo my reluctance to address the question.
As it turned out with my ATF, sex didn't become a part of her being my ATF. So the story unfolds...
It was some 15 years ago when I stopped in my somewhat "Friday after work" SC. A few of us from work would often hit a club, but this club was not close to our work, so we never went to it. However, it was on my way home. It was sort of a dive club, but decent talent at times. I was a regular. My barmaid always had my seat at the bar available and a beer there before I would sit down. A few times, she would ask someone to move so I could have "my" seat. Never was an issue.
Anyway, most dancers knew me and I'd get a couple of dances from some of the at times. The others, I wouldn't get dances with your money. :
Well, this one Friday I am sitting there and a dancer whose name I didn't recognize was called to the stage. Out from the back comes this beautiful Asian woman. Those that know my preferences will know I was smitten! She did her set (dressed, topless, nude) and during the set I tipped her well. Stage tipping was the norm then, before the tip walks started. My seat was in such a location that the dancer had to make an effort to get the tip. Perfect, because it separated my tip from others where dancers just grabbed the tip and moved on.
So she exits the stage and goes and sits with this customer. They talk a bit and then she walks over and asks if she can sit beside me. Are you kidding me, OF COURSE! Turned out she was in the back because she had just come in to work. I asked if she would like a drink, "Just a water, please." was her reply. OK, this lady is really racking up points! Asian, double check. Beautiful, check. Metal music, check. Just water, check. Good dancer, check. Friendly, check. A couple of "bad" points, a few tats and she had an accent and talked very fast. Those I overlooked.
She sat with me and talked through a rotation or two. Now, as I said this club is "diveish", and not a lot of customers bought dances. So I asked her if she would dance for me. Her reply was something along the lines of no need, we can just talk. I mean we were having a good conversation. What a range of topics she was conversant on. Now, no apparent interest in money, check. No SS, check.
After another rotation I asked again and back we went. Here I am with this beautiful topless Asian woman in my lap. She didn't mind the roaming hands. Wasn't all that common then as it is now. Very sensual, check. So after a few songs we went back to the bar and she asked if it was OK to sit at a table away from the bar. Well sure. This became our norm. Whichever of us got to the club first would get "our" table. So here it is about 2 hours after I should have been home. I asked when she worked next and it was only on Friday afternoons. Another check. I had my personal Friday afternoon Asian.
Next week, I got there a bit early and didn't see her through the rotation. Damn! That was a short lived fantasy. But then the door opens and in she walks in her civilian clothes and no makeup. The real her, still the beauty. She walks over, gives me a hug and a kiss and says she'll be out soon. She comes out and right to me. The afternoon/evening is a duplicate of the previous week. Did a dance or two for other guys, but always stayed with me. I felt like a king. The following week, oops, things changed!
During our conversation on metal music I mentioned a local band. "Oh, I know them.", was her reply. Oh crap, my son's band! Now, do I let it slide or mention this? I opted for the latter. That single bit of information changed everything, all for the better in my book. Sex was never really part of our past and never went beyond a few dances. We just became very good unique friends. It was and still is our secret. Our relationship continued this way for a couple of years.
During these years, the guy she stopped and sat with before she entered my life, well he sort of messed it all up. He was in the club a time or two, and she would talk with him a little, but always came back to me. Turned out they had known each other awhile and he had asked her to move in with him. This is one of the things for which she asked my advice. She ended up doing so. In time, she got pregnant and a lot changed. She told me she had to separate herself from the area. She moved to an area and club about 60 miles north and I couldn't get by there regularly. One time I was able to get there and see her, it was depressing to me. I missed her. She appeared to feel the same, but I can't be sure. I was able to get by a few months later and I told her I just didn't what to keep it as it was. Just to talk to her every once in a while and really never get to see her was just depressing. I said I wouldn't come up any longer, but she had my number. That was a big mistake I made. I've seen her since, as mentioned below, but the emotional connection was gone. She has been rather cold. She was in emotional distress and I only thought about myself. How stupid could I be?
I haven't seen her in the last couple of years, but before I have been with her and my family any number of times. I still hear of her in normal conversation from my son. She's still a friend of his. A lot of things went on over the years I had regular contact with her that made her special and my ATF. Here we were with about a 30 year difference in age. She had no family and to be honest, I think I became her surrogate father. Whatever the reason was, her asking for my help, my guidance, advice, whatever it was I always welcomed it. Never once asked for money, check!
To this day, I miss her and she will always be my ATF, I believe.
It was sad, and not just because she is my ATF. She was a good friend and confidant. I think I let her down and hurt her because of my feelings, not hers. She never did one thing to hurt me. I would feel the same if I did the same to any other of my friends. Never know what will happen, but i doubt I'll ever replace her as my ATF. Even if the most beautiful Asian woman came into my life, I doubt she could fill the void I have for my ATF. Just current favorites from now on, sadly. Perhaps it is similar to ones "first love".
Hey – at least I break up my dissertations into more easily digestible paragraphs :)
Some of my CFs have included a couple of different blondes at BSC in Phoenix; a MILF spinner in Albuquerque with outstanding nipples who seemed to enjoy my sucking on them as much as I did. At the same Albuquerque club there was a black girl with an ass that was perfection. Another black girl in Tucson is simply a goddess, 5'11", slim, fun inside the club and OTC.
These and the others have a few things in common: near perfect ass, great lap dances, and fun to hang out with. And she is a girl I will make special trips to her club to see her and only her.
So far the Tucson goddess is the only one that's lasted more than a year with regular contact. Others have quit dancing or they stop responding to texts. One who I knew was married with five (yes 5) kids had a miscarriage and became depressed. Sure miss that smoking hot Albuquerque MILF.
I’ve never really had a desire to have an ATF or fave – have had many great individual visits w/ dancers but for me it’s out of sight out of mind – I can be w/ a dancer during a particular visit and be really into her; but pretty much as soon as I leave the club; I’m looking for the next-adventure/something-new.
Maybe I haven’t met thee girl.
As usual i walk n the club at open 6pm and leave by 10pm so 4 hours chilling.. normally drinking soda and red bull...this club didnt have a good vip room so i never bought dances..it was a good hang out bar with topless girls. But coming n so early only one or maybe two and they normally hung n the back room...stage didnt start until 11pm lol....
So for sum reason my lil red headed small breasted and very plump ass creamy white skin almost pure bread French godness stared seating beside me and talking 4 hours on each visit...before i knew it we would get playful just us in a empty club on a side stage letting her strip for a few singles....
Thangs chsnged a lot once we becan touching each other at the table...we eventually found the darkness corner the club offered and would make out n....actually got my first hand job from her like this...
Long story short i started dating her and soon moved n with her...it lasted 3 strong, sex packed years...honestly best sex of my life...she was 4 years older than myself but weighed no more than 115 pounds....
Its been a year since i last saw her and i still hold her n my heart...yes i loved her........my one and only ATF
You are correct. It takes THE girl to be an ATF. Like Corvus said, he's had a lot of CFs. Now one need only be a little better than the rest, and there you have an ATF. Could be replaced the next day. My CF has been the same one for a few years. I haven't seen her in a long time and won't If I see hear car, I don't stop. She's at Stir Crazy.
Dook, was that Jackie?
Then she stood me up for a dinner date and would not return my calls or emails. I knew enough about her that it was fairly easy for me to go on line and find out that she had applied for a marriage license 11 months prior. I was able to find out that she married a career army guy, his name, where he is stationed and where they now live. I have since learned that due to her MS she had to give up her EMT job and now works for a school system.
I sent her one final email to let her know that I knew the truth and I have had no contact with her since. I didn't deserve to be treated that way. True friends do not bail out when the other comes down with a sever medical problem and I didn't. I don't know if it was the MS that made her do it but I can't forgive her for treating me that way.
I'll certainly never forget her but I am in no hurry to find a replacement for her.
That is why I consider myself an ass for "dumping" my ATF. I didn't really dump her, more so just treated her badly. I haven't looked for a replacement and don't think it would be possible anyway.
Actually I've been busy with civilian chicks lately and haven't been to a SC in about 6 weeks. Even met a stripper outside the club she works at. Never seen her dance yet but have had a blast rolling around in bed with her.
And I'll keep looking for an ATF until I find one, go broke or can no longer find a club to go to. Might as well have fun.
She got out of the business and we continued to see each other.
But it didn't end very well. And I am in no hurry to replace her, nore have I been looking. It was a bad experience all around. So I've learned a hard lesson with that. But it was Definately a learning experience that I think back to whenever I see a stripper I'm really attracted to.
From all the TUSCL posts over the years w.r.t. faves; it seems that pretty much when push comes to shove; strippers will drop a PL like he didn’t even exist once the stripper has no more use for the PL – and why I *personally* see zero reason to get involved w/ a stripper in anyway other than *just* for the services she provides.
I never went looking for an ATF or a close relationship with any stripper. We just sort of grew on each other. I feel sorry for those people in life that have never gotten close to another person. They are the real losers in life.
I like TiredTraveler's post because it centers on front room pussy play, getting friendly with the girl in an unstructured way, instead of talking about "buying dances" or "extras", and then of course going else where to continue.
I had to read what a Nuvi Ring was. But why in the pussy? They are inventing a new purpose for a girl's pussy. Why not under the skin somewhere, or just regular injections?
SJG
How do we get American SC's to the quality level of the Hong Kong Bar?
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She gives amazing lap dances that are very sensual, I love the way she looks at me when she's dancing.
When I first met her, I went to VIP with her a couple times and enjoyed it. At this time I was still getting LDs from other dancers and at one point I hadn't seen her in a couple weeks. Once I saw her again I wasn't planning on going to VIP with her again but I wanted to get a couple LD's from her still. So we went to the LD booth and I had no intention of going to VIP. Well I had forgotten how good her LD's were (best I've ever had) and I realized that the other girls I had gotten dances from we're not even close to being as good so I went back to VIP with her again and ever since then she is the only dancer I go in to see and get dances/VIP time from.
Every single time I've gone to VIP with her I've gotten extras (without her even asking for extra money but of course I tip her well). It started off with very basic extras (HJ) but they gradually built up to DATY, fingering and kissing. She got a little more aggressive and sensual each visit and allowed me to do a little more every few visits. I just recently experienced FS with her and it was fantastic. I loved the way she went about it too, she left her dress on in VIP at first and she said it was to block out the cameras so they couldn't see what we were doing. This confused me at first cause all i was doing was sucking her tits and this hadn't been an issue before. When I asked why she said if she kept the dress on it would help keep the camera from seeing that we were having sex and then she asked if I brought a condom.
Even though we had a good amount of time during the FS, We were very limited in the positions we could be in so it wasn't obvious what we were doing. I'd love to meet up with her OTC so I could make love to her in some better positions.
My ATF was the 9+ Russian girl that I've mentioned on here a few times. Back in 2011 to early 2012 I had a lot of fun with that girl. Every night out with her was an event, but man that girl was fun. To this day she is the only stripper I ever took to a Broadway show (twice), along with high end Manhattan restaurants, one of my favorite Irish pubs in Queens and a couple of strip clubs. It didn't matter where I took her - she always made the night a blast. I even enjoyed the simple visits with her ITC.
Sadly, I eventually had to drop her. Much like all too many of these girls, she was just too unreliable and I got burned a couple of times on nights that required some advance planning. C'est la vie.