Does conservative-liberal dimension predict strip club tolerance?
Electronman
Too much of a good thing is never enough
I'm confused. For years I assumed that more liberal states or cities would have more liberal strip club policies (including tolerance for extras). But there are too many exceptions for that broad generality to be true. For example, San Francisco is one of the most liberal cities in the U.S. but, with the possible exception of Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theater, the strip club industry seems to be fairly conservative. In contrast, Houston, a city with conservative political tendencies, continues to have pretty lenient strip club policies.
What do you think? Is the conservative-liberal dimension no longer predictive of strip club policies? Is there a better predictor of a lenient strip club atmosphere, such as commitment to personal rights (I'm no longer sure if this is a left or right wing issue) or economic stress (e.g., some cities with serious economic challenges seem to tolerate strip club fun more than others). Maybe there is simply no predictor and the only valid predictor is club by club reviews on TUSCL?
What do you think? Is the conservative-liberal dimension no longer predictive of strip club policies? Is there a better predictor of a lenient strip club atmosphere, such as commitment to personal rights (I'm no longer sure if this is a left or right wing issue) or economic stress (e.g., some cities with serious economic challenges seem to tolerate strip club fun more than others). Maybe there is simply no predictor and the only valid predictor is club by club reviews on TUSCL?
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I think that neither conservatives nor liberal areas are going to necessarily be good areas, as SuperDude asserts. If you think of it, what are the benefits to being pro strip club for a politician?
None. Few people will vote for you specifically because of the pro stripper agenda but you know many will vote against you. So the politicians that either don't say anything of those that are anti are going to win the day.
The only hope is that most politicians won't care enough once elected to do anything about the clubs.
We had the porn industry but politicians fucked that up.
I guess the closest politically palatable platform might be pro-civil rights position-- maybe code for letting people do what they want to do within legal limits set by the Constitution.
Liberals talk the talk of freedom of expression, so they should embrace nude dancing, but liberals are too busy trying to protect us from ourselves to walk the walk. SC's exploit women after all, and should be shut down or at least taxed and legislated to the point that they cannot operate.
Conservatives want no government interference, and talk the talk of freedom from government controls. Yet conservatives are also too hypocritical to walk the walk. They want government to enforce Christian religious dogma that is anti-porn, anti-woman and absolutely anti-sex except between married heterosexuals.
This is why I'm a bad liberal and an even worse conservative.
The best strip clubs are going to be in areas with too much commercial real estate. It isn't a red state vs. blue state thing.
I live in Miami – Miami is neither super-liberal nor super-conservative – I would venture to say it may be slightly right of center – Miami has a lot of SCs which are pretty liberal (not in the political sense LOL).
I thought perhaps the Miami SC scene may be due to the fact it is a tourist destination – but South Beach (Miami Beach) is more touristy and they are trying to close their only SC (Club Madonna)
Orlando, FL is also very touristy yet SCs suck (easy to understand since Orlando’s tourism is strongly family based).
San Francisco is probably a pretty touristy & liberal place – yet SCs seem to be pretty strongly regulated there.
I think it comes down to $$$ (as many things do).
Certain areas may need/like the tax revenue SCs bring – in other areas; big business may have more of a say and big business will be the ones that pressure the politicians to get rid of the SCs – e.g. Arlington, TX – Arlington, TX is not a very big city yet at one point it had about 14 SCs – after Cowboys owner Jerry Jones opened his new billion dollar stadium in Arlington; most clubs subsequently closed in a matter of a year or two – currently there is only 1 club left in Arlington which totally sucks (i.e. the club totally sucks).
That's why the Miami strip clubs are so good. They pay off the cops, the officials, the elected politicians, etc...
There's what people say, and how they act. People in the South talk about the sanctity of marriage, except on Saturday night after a few beers. People in the North say it's better just to shack up, but it's all hypothetical cause they're 40-year-old virgins. People in the North talk about racial equality, but they've never sat and had a meal with a single Black person. Meanwhile, the Southern guy with the Confederate battle flag bumper sticker has more Black friends than white. I know there's lot of individual exceptions, but that's the general pattern I've seen.
ALL Politicians do what ever they think will get or buy votes
When you look up 'Hypocrite' in the dictionary it says "reference example = Politician"
Agreed, but the question was not referenced to just politicians, and they make up a very small percentage of the population.