OTC rates
saggysp
California
I have been following this discussion threads for sometime. Some of you have provided valuable advice.
I would like to know whether you take the dancers OTC for one hour, couple of hours or for the night? Also, what would be the estimated price you would pay for each scenario? Lets consider the girl to be a 8 or 9.
I would like to know whether you take the dancers OTC for one hour, couple of hours or for the night? Also, what would be the estimated price you would pay for each scenario? Lets consider the girl to be a 8 or 9.
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I will just say that from what little I saw after a couple of days in LA, I suspect that OTC will be a bit more expensive where you are than in many other parts of the country. There are guys on here who are going to chime in with numbers as low as $150, but that is in the deep south and other lower cost of living areas. I doubt that you'd get it for less than $300 and it could very well cost you a lot more. But that is all just my speculation.
Good luck!
Despite what strippers tell us, there are Friday and Saturday nights where every stripper goes home with less than $50 and those are the two best nights of the week at most clubs. Which one is better? A guaranteed $300 on a Tuesday night or maybe earning less than $20?
In my humble opinion paying 3-500 in the Boston metro area does not make you an easy mark. That is a tough strip club area with a lot of money chasing limited supply. I took out of the Slipper once for $300 just a couple of years ago, but before the economic crash of 2008 the girls were making so much money ITC that, if they were willing at all, they wanted a chunk of change to go OTC. This applied not only to downtown, but to places like the Foxy Lady and Alex's.
I've had it offered as low as $500. Go ye and learn and ye shall be pleasantly surprised!
Rate per hour = b + 50h
Where b = base rate (let's say $100)
And h = hotness factor (on a 1 to 10 scale)
So s "7" might charge. 100 + (50*7) = $450
You could tweak the model a bit by adding a discount/premium for geographical location.
Add 100 for New York or subtract 75 for Flint, Michigan
OTC price = 2 X Lapdance price X Hotness
This works out pretty well for Detroit strippers. Where I club the standard LD is $25.
So for an 8, you would pay 2 X $25 X 8 = $400
Where standard lap dances are more, you would pay more.
I think this is a good way to come up with a reasonable amount to pay. Of course, if you're a horndog like me, you will pay more than is reasonable when you really want to fuck the dancer.
bella for 125 and she is great. A druggie but when straight and they all have issues
I do exactly the same. Back when I used to ask strippers that I was just a customer of, high price quotes and per-hour negotiations were the norm, especially here in CA. In the past years, I don't even ask about OTC until I've seen her enough that's she's an ATF or clearly moving in that direction, she knows I visit regularly to see only her and spend a decent amount and am fun to hang out with. I don't even bring up the number of hours, just "we'll grab something to eat and do some drinking, maybe I'll take you to a strip club [they love this!], then hit the hot tubs or a hotel room." I'll negotiate a price based on BJ or even HJ (and that price will be low, $200-$300), and of course she is free to do more (which, after drinking and SCing for a few hours, almost always happens). Most of my OTC for the prices I just quoted last a few hours, and some last much more, but the model only works (at least for me) if she's motivated to keep you as an exclusive customer and likes hanging out at you on some level (or at least isn't terribly repulsed by you).
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I get that the probability of a woman being an 8 or higher is 3.2% . This is why the very hot dancers either don't have to let any custies under their thong, or will charge very, very dearly for the privilege.
In my experience, escorts and P4P strippers are typically at best average looking for a woman in her 20s, and charge $250-$350, depending on the part of the country. (Those less than average looking will charge less.)
Sometimes you can get lucky. I saw a Dominican escort (Black), 10+ in my book, who only charged $240. She had an idiot pimp, who thought all men found Black women less attractive. Her rate got up to $320 pretty quick.
Gods, I love flyover country. You high-rollers just keep right on flying over, why dontcha? :)
I found in my area, if you start $250-300, you're pretty much guaranteed to get any girl of your choosing from my favorite clubs. The last year or so though, I've balked at that and been keeping around the $100 price, pushing to $150 if needed. I got a solid 8 to agree to $120 this week (Then I had to back out, long story). I have found that the quality and duration of the experiences have dropped significantly lately as well. Is this a direct correlation to my drop in price? Or is it a result of the particular girls I'm picking?
It's not an exact science. I have avoided the high quotes because I don't want to get "locked in" like others have put it. I do have one girl that's decent, but we started at $150 and I cant get her to budge from that. I've had girls for $300 that were shit in bed. My 2nd best sex ever was a five hour romp with an 8 from Florida who just wanted $50 for spending money (she was flying home in the morning). All of my favorites have become unavailable recently due to moving or bfs so I'm hunting hard for new blood.
RickyBoy is working to change that.
As a few others have mentioned; you may get (in terms of service) what you pay for (although there is not a 100% correlation of course).
Being that I spend a lot on LDs; I’m sometimes tempted to spend the least possible per LDs in order to make my $$$ go-further/last-longer.
But I’ve come to the conclusion that if I would like/expect a dancer to treat me well; then I should also treat her well (i.e. we both get what we want/need – within reason of course).
Treat the dancer/provider how you would want/expect to be treated may be a good and successful rule to follow (give her what she wants/needs if you expect her to give you what you want/need/desire).