Sometimes I am reminded that I am a PL too

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• Alucard

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  11 years ago

  How did you discover this? Did you ask her? Did she tell you or did someone else? If someone else, how do you know if this third person is being truthful? If she is indeed an addict, it is her business IMO. Does her habit impact your relationship with her? Your decision is whether or not to continue seeing this person.
• shadowcat

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  11 years ago

  As long as you're taking a break, maybe you could find time to do a review.
• Alucard

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  11 years ago

  Six years without a review is a LONG time.
• ButterMan

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  11 years ago

  Yea I noticed that too!
• Papi_Chulo

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  11 years ago

  Yea OP – been that you’ve been a member for 6 years and you “travel alot and visit many clubs” – you should have written some, if not many, reviews by now. The only thing that struck me, in a bad way, about your thread was your comment: “… I'm going to get the urge to 'fix' or help her …” As almost *all* TUSCLers will tell you, that would be a BIG mistake with the end result often being that she will still be in the same position (mostly out of her own will/desire) and you may very well end up getting messed up, emotionally and financially. It is up to *her* to change herself – you will fail in a big and painful way if *you* try to do it.
• 3LeggedMan

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  11 years ago

  It seems this girl is still mature, intelligent, and interesting. But now you see the dark side. Will you trash this friendship because she's flawed? I'm hoping not, some day she'll need her friends to support her if she decides to get clean. You can be one of those who are there in her time of need.
• Player11

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  11 years ago

  A druggie will use your emotional involvement to drain your money. All that matters to them is the drugs. It is your business and you meet to regroup on this situation. Often these women have lost custody of any kids. The worst thing you could do is get her PG. Thee next worst thing is advance or give her money for services not rendered If she is a viable project for low pop then there may be merit in seeing her but be careful. Otherwise it is best to dump her off.
• tusclfix

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  11 years ago

  Thanks for the comments. This wasn't so much a question as it is me just expressing my disappointment. I certainly am not going to try to 'fix' her even though I feel that way. I am just not sure if I am going to talk to her as much. And yes, I need to get some reviews done (sorry).
• gawker

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  11 years ago

  My ATF told me of her longstanding heroin habit after our first CR. I was taken aback primarily because I'd never encountered it in my 6 decades. She explained her progression her many trips to rehab, her on again off again times with methadone and explained her dependent personality. She wanted me to be a regular but also wante D honesty. Now, 4 years later I've seen her at her best, and I've driven her to a detox hospital at 3 am. I've watched her self destruct on crack and have seen 10's of thousands of dollars go into her arm. I trust her, I care for her, I enjoy intimacy with her but know I can never "fix" her. I get pissed when I see her relapse after a long climb up, but that is her issue.. I understand her problem, I want nothing but the best for her, and hope shell be a part of my life for a long time. I've talked with her boyfriend and her mother about whether I'm enabling her drug use when I pay/give her money. When she's desperate, she'll do whatever it takes to get what she " needs". With or without me.
• Club_Goer_Seattle

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  11 years ago

  I concur with Papi and Che. Do you attempt to "fix" this girl. It will be beyond your ability and you'll regret it in the end. Some of us members have been down that road.
• Ermita_Nights

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  11 years ago

  I've known a number of heroin addicts who function so well you'd never suspect. Some can even do this for years, but not into old age. Eventually most seem to either clean up or die.
• lopaw

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  11 years ago

  Discovering that this girl is a drug user after all that fun time together and feeling the way you do about it doesn't make you a PL. It makes you human. Enjoy the time that you can with her and if she ultimately crashes and burns at least you gave her some great conversation and shared an intimate friendship in the club.
• sharkhunter

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  11 years ago

  I remember I was dissapointed when I found out one dancer seemed to have her foot in a little bit of the porn industry having sex and putting it on video and selling it online. I was thinking it's not my business unless I actually wanted to date her. I was thinking she probably didn't sell too much without a lot of marketing. It wasn't the first time a dancer told me about her web site. I was dissapointed because she had given me the impression she was like the girl next door and then suddenly, boom, she tells me she's trying to sell sex videos like it's an online hobby. I do not approve of drug use either but I'm certainly not going to try to change anyone. I probably won't ever want to give a drug user a ride in my car anywhere either, since police have seized cars if drugs were found inside. Dancers can destroy a fantasy if they got you picturing them as a sweet girl next door type, then suddenly she blurts out something about selling sex videos or in another case drugs.
• ilbbaicnl

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  11 years ago

  We're brainwashed to come down hard on people who are heavy users (but still apparently functional) of cocaine or pot, but give a pass to people who are comparable users of alcohol. I'm more skeptical that people can be "manageably" heavy users of meth or heroin and other strong opiates, but it may be possible.
• rickdugan

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  11 years ago

  "I feel like if I talk to her I'm going to get the urge to 'fix' or help her which is not in my playbook." I learned a long time ago, when I used to fuck around with bad girls in my dating life, that you cannot a broken person if she is not trying to be fixed. A girl like this won't take help from her family, a true SO, or really anyone else who is close to her. So how much influence do you really think that you will have as a strip club customer who is 2+ times her own age and is paying to see her tits and ass? In the strip club, you need to accept or reject them as they are, because it is downright foolish to think that you can change any of them.
• chairsky

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  11 years ago

  I agree most of the previous opinions, just enjoy her company, don't try to fix her.
• Tiredtraveler

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  11 years ago

  Reviews are the reason the existence of this site. I try to review every club I go to at least once and then agian if something changes for thebetter or worse.
• berge1

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  11 years ago

  I firmly agree with Bullwinkle...any relationship that starts with $100 bills has nowhere to go. My ATF was like that...addicted to Xanax and Alcohol. I tried to fix her, but didn't work. I finally cut off her $100 bill supply... she has actually become a prostitute to make up my lack of support. Last I heard she was gang raped by 10 guys at a bachelor party at the SC. From what I heard, she collected the money and went right back to work doing unprotected extras in the VIP. $40 BJ...$60 full service. What a
• gsv

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  11 years ago

  berge1 - that sounds insane, although weird because honestly xanax is kind of a pussy drug IMO. I would be more concerned about the fact that she is doing unprotected extras and all the shit that's going to cause. And I would not be surprised if this girl is up to way more than just xanax. Anyway, it's possible to be a perfectly normal functioning person and use drugs sometimes recreationally. Especially if we are talking about a joke drug like marijuana.