Strip Clubs and Escorts Versus a Steady Relationship.

Think you are trying I make a virtue out of necessity buds. Talk to your therapist about "rationalization" and have a nice day.

(And a note that will e obvious to most readers. If he really was comfortable with strippers being better than normal relationships he would just about being comfortable with it and not need to start these threads questioning it here. He is secretly hoping or someone to talk him out of what he knows to be his non-sensical beliefs.)

Depends on what you are looking for and want. Sex Workers offer "No Strings Attached" company for Sex or whatever you want to pay for and that the Sex Worker is willing to offer for $$$$$.

A girlfriend &/or wife offers a different kind of companionship, hopefully long term and typically a different kind of sexual relationship than you get with a Sex Worker.

For Men the reality is that we PAY for each kind of relationship in some way & to some degree.

Don't pay any heed to the idiotic fool above. He just wants to push buttons and try to upset you.

I agree with you Alucard. Either way we are paying. Dates and gifts to girlfriends or wives cost plenty of money just like escort rates and lap dances.

Why does one preclude the other? ;)

Actually don't listen to Alucard who has admitted that the only interactions he has had with women in the last 20 years are paid ones with strippers (and many suspect it has actually been that way all his life - something he fails to deny). You are young omega but if you allow yourself to rationalize like Alucard does you could end up the fuckhead he is when you are 58! If that doesn't scare the shit out of you nothing will and good like, just don't try and convince us your rationalizations are anything other than rationalizations.

Why does one preclude the other?

For those who believe in Fidelity it should & must preclude the other.

For those who don't give a fuck about Fidelity, well they can do as they wish and reap the consequences. :)

What are those consequences, Alucard? Care to elaborate?

I'm with Dougster and Rick.

For the uninformed and those subject to bouts of illogical thinking, nothing about having one's Kate and Edith too precludes Fidelity to a spouse or significant other. If there are any who still don't understand the lack of conflict there after a bare few minutes of thought, let me know and I'll explain it in more detail.

It is OBVIOUS from prior posts gmd what your feelings are about Fidelity. I do not need you to re-explain. There are many who share my thinking and many who share yours. It is up to each individual male and female to decide if their relationship involves Fidelity. Talking down to people IMO isn't a good way to influence other people's thinking.

Well I don't really make enough money to have both a girlfriend and strippers both. I will someday but I am still a young adult and we young adults don't make a lot of money. I make 27,000 and I learned in a college class the average is 24,000 for recent college grads. Also girlfriends bring drama. Also given the divorce rate and separation rates I prefer not getting married. Getting tied down is another issue and I feel that I am too young to get tied down.

However everyone is making strong points. I think rickdugan, Alucard, and georgemicrodong all make good statements even though there are disagreements, but there is nothing wrong with disagreeing.

I would agree that my feelings *should* be clear, but based on your comment, I'm not so sure. Tell me what you believe my feelings are. I'd be interested in seeing if I've expressed myself clearly.

Alutard: "Talking down to people IMO isn't a good way to influence other people's thinking."

Funny you should say that given how you constantly talk down to everyone on here.

Dancers bring DRAMA too Omega22. LOL

I agree that there is nothing wrong with disagreeing.

I do agree with you Alucard that dancers can bring drama. I have done well to avoid it though. Usually at clubs I am laid back and just talk to the girls and get a lap dance then move on to the next girl.

Even if alutard had the intelligence to grasp anything anyone else says, which I doubt, he has an even stronger desire to knock strawmen which he claims are their actual beliefs when they are not. This desire in him is so strong no way he'll get anything you say right. It's much more important to find a windmill to charge and be the hero and you the devil, at least in his own fucked-up brain.

That's the probably just as big a problem for him as physiological limitations on his ability to do logic, although I am becoming more and more convinced he had some kind of developmental disoder the more I read his posts. ( why I've taken to calling him "alutard" lately.)

Do you ever read your own writing Dougster?

I express opinions I believe in. Whether anyone finds them objectionable or not, or whether they agree with my opinions or NOT is their business. I have pretty well stated my beliefs about the stating of my opinions in my profile. You can twist words and try to fool people with your writing all you want Dougster, it won't change my thinking and actions at ALL.

What am I trying to fool people about regarding you alucard? I think I've laid out the psychology of you (masocist, narcissitic, and manic) pretty clear for all to see.

Are you seriously trying to telling me you don't agree that you do constantly talk down to people on here? Your head is seriously that far up your ass that you don't realize you are doing it when you are? Maybe you're an even big fuck-up than I thought, and trust me, I think you are titan-size in terms of fuck-up-ness.

Sounds to me like you really just don't want to be tied down right now at this point in your life. Which is understandable. However also take into account the future. If you think you might want children & a family someday YouTube want to make a cutoff time for your stripper/escort lifestyle. Say for example that you'll only do that until 30 and then you will focus back onto marriage/GF route. The longer you wait to settle down the harder it gets to find a good woman.

You'll hit your 30's and all of a sudden the single woman you had before are now single but have 1-3 kids to go along with it so bam instant family.

Just something to think about.

Grr I hate auto correct and didn't want YouTube in that last post! Oh cell phone posting! Lol

Alucard, quit being distracted by the troll comments and answer my question. PM if you want to; I won't post it publicly.

Yeah, also PM me about how you think I am trying to "fool people" about you here, alutard. I think your problem is not me "fooling" them, but rather make the ugly truth about you plain for all to see. You must be noticing that people are catching on to you, no? Anyway, send me that PM. If I am being misleading in some way, I'll stop, and, in any case, I'll definitely keep it private and not ass rape you like that evil KK did!

I understand mrrock and I like your input. It is definitely something to think about. Right now I don't want kids and I am not sure if they are really something that I want to have. Maybe someday I will want kids but I am thinking that I won't want any in the future as well. Also you make a good point that the longer I wait the harder it will be to get a good girl. However I am hoping dating websites can help me out with getting a girl for me if I do want to have a steady relationship someday.

Your stripper/escort is not going to be there when you are sick, genuinely help you through your disappointments, help raise your children, and tell you honestly when you need to change your life.

There is no comparison.

This is a very valid topic. Used to be one of the main reasons a dude would get married is to secure guaranteed daily pussy. Now, with the internet, cell phones, SC's, liberal culture etc...there appears to be an amazing abundance of easy to get fine pussy from around the world.

Having seen the ravages divorce, I'm surprised anyone still enters into such commitments. If I was a young guy in this environment, there is no fucking way I would tie myself down to a girlfriend and definitely would not get married.

^^^ Wow, sounds like someone actually gets the key point. You better re-read his post 100 times, alutard. Hopefully then it might sink through even your thickest of skulls.

I meant inno's post, btw.

You make a good case inno123. I understand what you are getting at completely. However I usually get my friends and family to help me through rough times. Also I doubt I will ever want children.

Thank you lone_wolf I am glad you like my topic. I agree that thanks to clubs, technology, and modern culture there are plenty of other ways to get women outside of having to get married.

Omega:

A loving, caring, committed relationship with a woman who loves you is the best way to go.

Escort (and stripper) short term relationships, while fun at first, eventually become empty. You wake up one morning and wonder what you are doing with your life.

Then you will know you are PL and addicted to the most sensual women in the world like everyone here.

Run away my friend. Run far away and never come back.............

Q: How do you know your wife is dead?

A: The sex is the same but the dishes pile up.

@ Jackslash

LMAO..............

pabloantonio you make a good argument. A relationship with a girl that cares about me and having something long term does have its advantages. However I have seen many failed marriages and people have told me that they fall out of love with their wives which usually lead to divorce or separation. I think love is sentimental as well.

I understand that if I am not careful I can become a PL. However I think that as long as I have a good job and just go to strip clubs and see escorts for fun then I can avoid being a PL.

I think your perspective on this changes as you age. I am in my mid 50's and have been retired for 7 years. I do not want to date anything in my age range. I have two strippers that I see at least once a month for OTC activities. They are both mid 30', articulate and in excellent shape. They usually spend 5-6 hours with me for functions, activities, meals and great sex for a reasonable fee.

Omega22: "I think that as long as I have a good job and just go to strip clubs and see escorts for fun then I can avoid being a PL. "

No. It's already too late for you. You can tell when a person starts threds like this that it is.

txtittyfan I agree with your statement. People do change as they get older. I am a different person as compared to the the person I was back in high school as I am much more outgoing and adventurous now.

jackslash that is a great joke. I am definitely going to steal it :)

lol jackslash!

I'm fortunate that I have both a loving "wife" and a bevy of strippers that I canoodle with both ITC & OTC.

There are pros and cons to both sides of the equation.

If you want a woman who will generally care about you, there will always be some drama, with women that is inescapable, then a civilian is for you.
If you want great sex with a gorgeous woman who could care less about you in any way, then go with a stripper. Strippers are human too, and some will blur the lines of fantasy and reality. So, if you want 3:00 am phone calls, drama beyond your wildest dreams, incessant money requests, and lies told straight to your face, definetly go with a stripper. I have dealt with enough drama for several lifetimes from some of these women. Now, the answer is easy. Don't return their texts or phone calls, if or until you're ready. If they're mad, so forget them. Always have several on rotation. They will always want your money.
You've got to ask yourself one important question, "Who will need who first?" You will always win that battle, and the phone and texts ring on. You set the pace for these con artists, not the other way around. In the end, it's all a game, but many times, it's not a fun one.

Keep your head screwed on straight.

Well said stenton1.

I'm in my mid 20's and all I want to do now is fuck as many girls as I can. That's with strippers and civilian girls. I couldn't be faithful if I was in a relationship now. I suppose when I get closer to 30 I'll want to settle down, but now is not the time for me.

I would think a spouse would be a more fulfilling relationship. Im coming from a different side of things though.

My read is that omega would suck the life out if any girl with all his despair and over thought. He probably desperately wants a monogamous relationship with the right girl but realize he would be too much of a weight. Strip clubs are his compromise and this thread his rationalization.

Now other people could make exactly the same arguments he does and I would actually believe them. Ain't trickin' if you got it. So you got to look at who is saying what and not just try and look at the supposed reasoning as opposed to the real reasoning.

I strongly agree with what Dougster said in his second post.

Omega, I think you should do what makes you happy. However, you've brought this topic up, or something along the lines of it, multiple times, which indicates that you're probably a bit insecure about what you're doing. If you were perfectly content with it, you wouldn't have to keep questioning yourself over and over again.

A wife or gf is more fulfilling.

Steady relationships without a doubt. I mean, I do LOVE not being tied down, but doing it with strippers and escorts deters me from it because I have to pay wads of cash for a one night stand. Now if I can find a friend with benifits, no monetary value involved, GOD I'd be a happy man, but that's hard press to find one these days, so I'll just be happier with a steady girlfriend. With the girlfriend, although its the same girl, you can count on her for emotional and physical support. With the stripper/escort, you have to meet a different one all the time, explain your life story, make sure you relate with each and every one, every single time. It's an annoying process, not to mention expensive.

I can't compare the two, they provide totally different things.

Sure a steady relationship with a stripper for $100 a week

Always remember you do not pay for the sex because you can alway get that you are paying her to LEAVE afterwards LOL.
You cannot mix wife or girlfriend with " a friend with benefits" (a hollywood pipe dream in my opinion) and many times they want more later unless they are already in another relationship and that is a whole other mess in itself. If you do not want the cost emotionally and monetarily strippers and escorts are less expensive. Plus the expense can be controlled or stopped with no additional cost to you. The same cannot be said of wives or girlfriends. There are benefits to both life styles. It depends on what you want.

I like my tits to be real but my hoes to be fake

I am seriously having a hard time understanding what you're saying tiredtraveler but let me see if I could reply accurately.

To say a friend with benifits is a pipe dream is hardly a dream these days. It just requires a lot of smooth talking and a generally presentable appearance. I've heard stories from my friends about how they have, what we can call "friends with benifits". One friend doesn't date this spanish chick, but he does fuck her on a irregular basis. Of course, they hang out and enjoy each others' company before the deed is done but that's standard.

And if you're in a relationship and paying for it, then sir, you need to step your game up. All my romantic relationships, only thing I paid for was time and giving her pleasure with the johnson. For example, a girl I know got me to go with her to the movies for free, no payment on my part. I just paid for wendys which was for myself and she paid for her own food. But then again, this is the young guy's perspective which you guys have heavy disdain for.

I can't speak for the wife portion of relationship since I'm too young for that sort of thing.

Looks like there are plenty of good statements on here.

stenton1 I am glad you filled me in on what show girls can be like if you talk and interact with them OTC. I have never did OTC so I have never had any personal experience. I am glad that you filled me in on your experience. I will definitely be careful if I ever do OTC with a dancer.

ranukam: We seem to be similar. Seeing how I am young as well and not wanting to be tied down either. At least not now.

Stiletto25 and bang69: I understand what you all mean, and Stiletto25 I am glad to get a dancers side of things. Also I agree that there are plenty of good reasons as to why having a spouse would be more fulfilling.

GoVikings: Being young I am thinking about what kind of direction I want my life to go in. Which is why I enjoy talking to older people that have experienced more than me, and enjoy a lifestyle similar to mine. I do agree that doing what makes me happy is most important. Which is why for the time being I choose strip clubs and escorts rather than a relationship, however that can change in the future.

Estafador: You make some really good points. Paying as much as we do can be frustrating. Also I agree that it can be frustrating having to tell our life stories to multiple people. What would be perfect is getting a really cool girlfriend that also lets us go to the strip clubs. However having a girlfriend would definitely cut off getting escorts.

gatorfan: That would be pretty cool. Also I must say as a UK wildcats fan I am glad basketball season is here. Your gators will challenge my team for the SEC title this year in basketball!

Tiredtraveler: I agree with what you are saying. There are benefits to both lifestyles. Strippers can cause drama but if you don't do OTC the drama can be limited to basically nothing. However wives and girlfriends can cause drama for plenty of reasons. Although as many have mentioned a girlfriend or wife can be more fulfilling.

If I had to pick one I would honestly pick escorts, massaged and strippers as my providers....

bUT,

I like to have a gf I can Fuck every day or every other day and club on the week ends.......

Sorry to all you monogamy people juice is a relgous polygamist the way the one and only God intended it to be.....

I don't see why having a girlfriend would stop you from going to massage parlors. For all she knows, your just there to get a professional massage. Nothing dark about that.

Asian massagy is the best ;)

Love you good! Real long time!

Personally i am married so i like it both ways but i only play with other women and my wife. Not without her besides its more fun that way but the girl has to be clean and bisexual

Man I went to a massage parlor and I never got sex. Just an unwanted happy ending. I didn't know what a happy ending was and realized it was nothing more than a handjob. I felt so annoyed I had to pay 40 bucks for that when I pay 20-25 for blowjobs.

Esta find some Asian massage parlores forums and you will find some real hot and wet sloppy blowjobs and sex from some of the finest asians you could lay your eyes on plus they will give you a shower as well its great before or after clubbimg

any recommended forums? I need a massage bad and a BJ is always a bonus

maybe alucard and dougster should just start their own thread entitled "alucard and dougster go at it" and then they can rag on each other to their heart's content.

of course a committed relationship would be best, i just haven't been in one that worked long term...

Hey Carolynne it is always nice to see dancers on here seeing how there aren't many. I look forward to reading all of your comments :)

Only get married if you want kids like I do. After ten years/2 kids you can guess what my love life is like. Thank Gawd for strip clubs. If I was suddenly single I would be a stripper/escort/massage parlor guy. No more married life. Especially since even at 50 there is a lot of play if I want it.