A couple of years ago, a girl I'd gotten a couple of pretty good dances from, and who had quoted outrageous prices for anything more, was standing outside the club in civvies, smoking, about to start her shift. I walked up, stopped to chat, asked her if was working, and she sort of mumbled a "yeah, but I don't really want to," then "How would you like to be my sugar daddy tonight?" Remembering her previous offers, I responded that she was outside my budget, whereupon she asked me how much I had. Being the lying, cheating bastard that I am, I really low-balled it, saying I had 125, more if she had a place to go. She didn't, and countered with, "OK, if you give me a ride home when we're done. I don't have a car tonight." So she climbed into my car, we went to the local no-tell, and had a surprisingly good time. Well, *I* did. Total conversation time, about 3 minutes.
Of course, when I got back the club afterward, the bartender gave me a smirk and a "Have fun?" comment. Seems she was watching on the parking lot camera as we left. Ah well. Fortunately, she didn't get fired and have to live on the street with her freezing kids...
If they are up for OTC (and the majority are) they will be up for it the first time you meet them. Contrary to TUSCL ego/myth there is no "game" involved. My typical MO is to ask the first time I meet them.
As well, I have not had any OTC experiences. But I am working on it!
GoVikings, I don't know if its as much about luck as it is about the benjamins! Lol. That's my main issue, Don't always have a lot of benjamins to throw around.
Mine might have been in the range of 4 1/2 to 6 minutes. I was in Las Vegas a few years ago, at Cheetah's. I flew there from Seattle specifically to see a long time fave that I knew from when we both lived in L.A. Her shift was over at 3:00 a.m, but I stayed until 6:30 a.m. getting dances with other dancers. I had agreed to a three-song set with one dancer. Mid way through the second song, she said something to the effect, "why don't we go do this somewhere else?" (Meaning OTC.) I was all set up for it. I had a hotel room a few miles away, and might have taken her up on it except for three things: I did't care for her fake boobs; I knew I might have trouble staying awake at that hour; AND a little voice reminded me that if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I just chose to politely not answer her question. Finished the three dances, and went on to the next dancer, and several more. I've never been propositioned so quickly before or since. (BTW, she never did quote, nor did I ask, a price. She certainly wasn't pushy about it.) I wonder what I missed?
Can't top your suave 3 min., george. My encounter with 'Kenworth girl' about three months ago happened within 15 min. of her sitting down at my table. And, I had gone to that particular club just to have lunch and kill time.
Well I didn't time it but it has happened to me twice. I knew both girls from the club and they were both staying at the same hotel that I was. One got to me as I was taking my bags to the room. The other got to me as I was taking my bags to the car. Used my room on the first one and her room on the second one.
I always stay at the same hotel. It has fringe benefits sometimes. LOL.
dougster- i'm surprised you said that. you would know better than i, because as i've said i haven't had any experiences OTC yet. but i would assume, that going to see the dancer like 2 or 3 times, would increase your chances of making OTC happen. personally, i wouldn't ask them about OTC after the first time i've met them. i just think if they've seen you a few times, they'll be more comfortable, and therefore that'll increase the chances of them seeing you OTC.
rh48hr- i don't have that much money to throw around either. most of the people on this site spend a lot more than i do. although i'm not experienced with this, i don't believe you need a ton of money to make it happen. i think, that if you see the dancers 3 or 4 times, and THEN ask her about OTC, i think you can make it happen IF you ask the right way. that's the approach i'm taking.
The fastest encounter I remember is when I agreed to get a dance or two from a girl and then she asked me to meet up later. Well maybe not, I just remembered when I was new to strip clubs, I asked a couple of girls (not at the same time) I thought looked good if they wanted to meet up later without bothering with getting any dances. The second girl said ok.
I could have met up faster than that. I have been immediately propositioned to go meet up later I believe on 2 different occasions upon meeting a girl in a strip club. Two of the girls wanted money. One girl didn't say anything about money but I was highly suspicious why some strange girl wanted to take me to her apartment without asking for my name or any other information. I did not know anything about her either.
I did not hook up with any of them so I guess I need to trust a girl enough to get a dance first or talk to her for a few minutes before meeting up unless she looks real good.
Some of you guys work a lot faster than I do. My fastest OTC has been getting a dancer's number when I first met her and hooking up a few days later.
I may hold the record for the slowest OTC. A very beautiful dancer I've known for 2 years had always been friendly in the club but would never agree to OTC. But I kept asking. About a month ago, she finally met me at my place. It was worth the wait.
One December in Wichita, I went to my favorite club on a Monday night and met a new, very skinny, blonde. I saw her there the next night, then went again Thursday night, at which point I pointed out that it was our third date.
It was my last night in town before heading home for Christmas, and the stores were open until 11 p.m. I told her I was going to leave to do some shopping, but would come back when the stores closed. She asked if she could go with me, which made me ask if she wanted to go shopping. She said "or we could do something else." I asked what else, and she replied "third date is third base."
So I said we could go to my place, and she asked "what are we going to do there?" "Well, I guess we'll go down on each other." To which she replied "what if I don't get off that way?" "Well, whatever it takes ...." She quickly said "OKAY!"
She explained how they were allowed to take a one hour dinner break during their shift, if they paid the house $50. So, we met at the convenience store across the street, she jumped in my car, and I took her to my apartment downtown. We got down to it pretty quickly, and after five positions, and three orgasms on her part, it was time to get her back to the club. The fact that she was so skinny, and had had three kids, provided me with insufficient stimulation, so I couldn't even get off. (The skinny wasn't a turn-off. She was pretty, and sexy as hell, but she just didn't have enough meat on her bones to provide any resistance.)
When I asked, she said she didn't want any money, but I didn't want her to have to pay $50 to take a break, so I gave her that much, even though she wasn't looking for any compensation. I just didn't think it should cost her anything to let me defile her.
Of course, that was way too much to pay to simulate a broomstick rattling around in a garbage can. Or, more accurately, a #2 pencil being thrown down a school hallway ....
hmmm fastest otc i have never taken a otc home that same night.. there was a period of time i was going to sc for itc or right before i go see a regular chick for some ass so all my otc happend later on
Nope, Dougster has the right of it. Typically, if they're going to do it at all, they'll say yes the first time you ask, even if it's the first time you've met each other. I have had dancers defer, and later say yes, and I've deferred on some myself, only to later take them up on it, but the vast majority of OTC offers have been on the first visit, and at *least* half of those have been proposed by the dancer rather than me. In fact, since moving to Louisville, the incidence of dancer proposed hookups has gone up.
The few OTC I have had were the result of building a relationship over the course of many months. I wanted to know that I could trust them and they got to know me too.
As a result, this built up the anticipation to the point when the OTC did happen, the sex was fantastic for both of us, like we were on our honeymoon.
Maybe I am just a romantic who has taken the wrong path to the sleazy world of stripclub excitement.
pablo, if that's the kind of experience you want, and it's working for you, I'm certainly not going to tell you you're doing it wrong. Me, I'm shallower than that. I have a romantic relationship with my wife; I don't need one with anybody else.
Go Vikings -- Good luck in your quest. I hope you are right on the money. I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to money. I don't spend as much as our fellow SC mongers and will use the sage advice of GMD and other experienced OTC members to help me.
Fastest OTC.........................I went to the club payed $500 for an hour. Near the end ov the hour the girl wanted to know if I wanted more some wear more private since extras don't happen ITC at this club. I said oooo ya like the kool laid man and we went OTC at a local ho tell : )) so total time I would say 2 hours ( 1 hour for the champain room and 1 more hoour before the club closed)
The last time I was at a particular Midwestern establishment that is consistently highly rated on this site (something about a certain metallic alloy and a large pink bird), I came in, saw a girl on stage that looked good and, in the process of tipping her the first time, she put her legs up on my shoulders as I feigned fellatio.
Went over to talk to her after I got off stage and I mentioned I was in from out of town and staying at a nicer hotel. She almost immediately proposed OTC.
I did have to wait for her shift to get done, but then we met up. Unfortunately, it turned out we didn't mesh personality-wise and the experience was disappointing at best as I ended up playing junior psychologist moreso than having the fun I wanted to have.
Nonetheless, I was stunned how quickly it all came about.
Considering you paid $500 for what was presumably no sex, how much did you end up paying for the private session with the girl?
I could be wrong, but if you're gonna go all out and take a girl to the champagne room and blow $500, I don't see that there's much OTC incentive for the girl when she can already make a few hundred from you in the club without even putting out. Of course, there's the possibility of ITC with a tip to the girl above the champagne room price, but at that point would you not be better off with a very upscale escort (which can be had at this price range)?
1st visit: did a few dances with her. Lots of touching. 2nd visit: second dance, or so, she says: "what can I do for you besides stick my hand up your shorts?" (as she was doing just that). Me: "you could meet me outside of here."
It was the start of a long and very enjoyable relationship. Lots of great stories to tell from the "Shelly days"!
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wish me luck, lol! :)
GoVikings, I don't know if its as much about luck as it is about the benjamins! Lol. That's my main issue, Don't always have a lot of benjamins to throw around.
I always stay at the same hotel. It has fringe benefits sometimes. LOL.
rh48hr- i don't have that much money to throw around either. most of the people on this site spend a lot more than i do. although i'm not experienced with this, i don't believe you need a ton of money to make it happen. i think, that if you see the dancers 3 or 4 times, and THEN ask her about OTC, i think you can make it happen IF you ask the right way. that's the approach i'm taking.
I could have met up faster than that. I have been immediately propositioned to go meet up later I believe on 2 different occasions upon meeting a girl in a strip club. Two of the girls wanted money. One girl didn't say anything about money but I was highly suspicious why some strange girl wanted to take me to her apartment without asking for my name or any other information. I did not know anything about her either.
I did not hook up with any of them so I guess I need to trust a girl enough to get a dance first or talk to her for a few minutes before meeting up unless she looks real good.
I may hold the record for the slowest OTC. A very beautiful dancer I've known for 2 years had always been friendly in the club but would never agree to OTC. But I kept asking. About a month ago, she finally met me at my place. It was worth the wait.
It was my last night in town before heading home for Christmas, and the stores were open until 11 p.m. I told her I was going to leave to do some shopping, but would come back when the stores closed. She asked if she could go with me, which made me ask if she wanted to go shopping. She said "or we could do something else." I asked what else, and she replied "third date is third base."
So I said we could go to my place, and she asked "what are we going to do there?" "Well, I guess we'll go down on each other." To which she replied "what if I don't get off that way?" "Well, whatever it takes ...." She quickly said "OKAY!"
She explained how they were allowed to take a one hour dinner break during their shift, if they paid the house $50. So, we met at the convenience store across the street, she jumped in my car, and I took her to my apartment downtown. We got down to it pretty quickly, and after five positions, and three orgasms on her part, it was time to get her back to the club. The fact that she was so skinny, and had had three kids, provided me with insufficient stimulation, so I couldn't even get off. (The skinny wasn't a turn-off. She was pretty, and sexy as hell, but she just didn't have enough meat on her bones to provide any resistance.)
When I asked, she said she didn't want any money, but I didn't want her to have to pay $50 to take a break, so I gave her that much, even though she wasn't looking for any compensation. I just didn't think it should cost her anything to let me defile her.
Of course, that was way too much to pay to simulate a broomstick rattling around in a garbage can. Or, more accurately, a #2 pencil being thrown down a school hallway ....
Nope, Dougster has the right of it. Typically, if they're going to do it at all, they'll say yes the first time you ask, even if it's the first time you've met each other. I have had dancers defer, and later say yes, and I've deferred on some myself, only to later take them up on it, but the vast majority of OTC offers have been on the first visit, and at *least* half of those have been proposed by the dancer rather than me. In fact, since moving to Louisville, the incidence of dancer proposed hookups has gone up.
As a result, this built up the anticipation to the point when the OTC did happen, the sex was fantastic for both of us, like we were on our honeymoon.
Maybe I am just a romantic who has taken the wrong path to the sleazy world of stripclub excitement.
Before joining TUSCL last year, I just trusted Chris Rock's information. After 18 months of taking notes, I know better.
Perhaps a tongue-in-cheek definition of 'suave'?............:)
Went over to talk to her after I got off stage and I mentioned I was in from out of town and staying at a nicer hotel. She almost immediately proposed OTC.
I did have to wait for her shift to get done, but then we met up. Unfortunately, it turned out we didn't mesh personality-wise and the experience was disappointing at best as I ended up playing junior psychologist moreso than having the fun I wanted to have.
Nonetheless, I was stunned how quickly it all came about.
Considering you paid $500 for what was presumably no sex, how much did you end up paying for the private session with the girl?
I could be wrong, but if you're gonna go all out and take a girl to the champagne room and blow $500, I don't see that there's much OTC incentive for the girl when she can already make a few hundred from you in the club without even putting out. Of course, there's the possibility of ITC with a tip to the girl above the champagne room price, but at that point would you not be better off with a very upscale escort (which can be had at this price range)?
It was the start of a long and very enjoyable relationship. Lots of great stories to tell from the "Shelly days"!