In the "Pornstar/model working at clubs" thread, minnow suggested 3-6 months was the average turnover for strippers.
Obviously there are the exceptions, from the lifer pushing 40 on one extreme, to the newbie that dances only a single night before quitting on the other.
But on average, do you think 3-6 months is right?
Steve, are you talking about turnover per club or in the industry as a whole? I tend to think at each club I go to, there are generally two types of dancers, lifers who've been there for years and newbies who barely started, with not much middle ground. Three to six months may be the point at which survival hangs in the balance, and if you are still dancing at 6 months, you may be a lifer from that point on.
Given that some are college students, I'd put shelflife of a stripper at (on average) 2.5 years. Turnover appears higher because strippers tend to migrate often for various reasons (disputes with other strippers/managers-the perception that another club pays more, etc.).
Average? Sounds about right, at least for one club. Might be a little longer if you take into account the club switchers.
True average, way to low. Maybe a median average of 2-3years on the whole which would correct for the vets and lifers and those who quit right away because they couldn't cut it.
Not only does this apply to strippers but also to other club employees. Especially waitresses. That is why I do NOT seek their advice in finding good dancers. They just don't know.
At Columbus Gold it seems like the average turn over is 30 days. Lots of girls sign up to strip there but after their 30 day trial is when the house fees start and most girls do not think they make enough money as it is to start paying the house fees.
My guesses. Mean = 2.5 years Median = <1 year Mode = 2 months
I'm finding many (not all) girls in Vegas dance til their liver gives out or they finally turn to prostitution full time. Wish I was being funny but it's the truth.
3-6 months seems low to me. But maybe that's due to my experiences with dancers. My favorites are successful strippers who have been in the game for 8 or 10 years. Offsetting them would be girls who tried it for a day or a week and decided it wasn't for them.
The problem with this question is that there is no reliable source of data. You could make almost any claim for an average and no one could refute it.
steve- Yes, I mean individual club. Should have explained it better, but if you go to club after a 3-6 month absence, what % of original dancers are still there? If less than 50%, then one can infer that the majority of dancers leave after 6 mos, OR have danced at club 6 mos. or less.
Steve: One of my favorites worked at three different clubs last year. Averaged 4 months at each club. I would say dancers in this business generally fall into three categories:
But yes, I am always seeing new girls. It seems there is no shortage of 18 year old girls who want a life of sex, alcohol, money and sometimes drugs. It's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it I suppose.
Here in Baltimore, one could say the turnover is high but the girls tend to change clubs fairly frequently. I'd still say the average time for a dancer working here though is about 2-3 years.
I represent the owner of three clubs. All of them suck, and he knows how I feel about them.
Three clubs, average 10 girls at a club, over three years. That is what I asked him to look up for me.
With ZERO turnover, that would mean 30 girls. He has employed almost 450. That means an average of "turning over" every girl 5 times a year.
Average for him turns out to be more like 2-3 months.
It seems to me too, as DandyDan says, there are newbies and veterans and not much in between. I'm surprised how many of the same faces are there year after year.
Sometimes I wait at least 6 months between visits, hoping to see fresh meat but not finding any.
It probably depends a lot on the club though. Girls might stick around at "good" clubs but the bad ones can't keep 'em long -- as BaddJack points out.
i see both ends of the spectrum, lifers that have been dancing forever and i cringe when i see them and i've met many dancers that were on their 1st night dancing and in many cases never came back to the club again leaving me wishing that i could see them again. average? hell i don't know, pick a number.
Speaking of turnover, what happened to our Atlanta dancer from two weeks ago?
Nobody went to see her!
minnow: "If less than 50%, then one can infer that the majority of dancers leave after 6 mos, OR have danced at club 6 mos. or less."
Or you have shitty luck. Dropped into a club today. I know (pretty well) 5 dancers on day shift. Talked to girl at door -- all 5 still work there -- all 5 were off today. :-(
Yeah, I know you're talking about the dancers in total, but 5 ?!?! GEEZ!!!!
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She is still around here somewhere...just not logging into TUSCL everyday like some of us...
She's already sworn us off ....
Many of them quit dancing for other occupations (finish school, marry a well off guy) or go into sex providing. I have had a number of them tell me over the years "I would rather do this" (sex providing). Strip clubs can be an excellent source for finding a msitress.
My ATF, 29 quit dancing about a year ago but has essentially been my mistress the last 3 years. She has been going to school, recently got married, and has a sales job in financial services. She is definitely a keeper girl and I will keep seeing her as long as it goes.
I've noticed that at clubs I visit sporadically (say once every few months) the turnover in dancers can be startling.
At my regular spot a dancer shared that she had been dancing for six months (she said was proud she had not become a drunk in that time, lol).
Since then I haven 't seen her in the club. Maybe she reached her shelf life?