A Brief History of The Ultimate Strip Club List
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The Ultimate Strip Club List started as an exercise to learn how to write a website. I believe this was in early 1993, but it could have been late 1992. I picked strip clubs as my web site subject because they interested me. Good thing I didn't care for books, I may have created amazon.com instead. Sigh. I originally stored the data in an Access Database, and had a Visual Basic program to create all the static pages. Then I uploaded all the pages to my little slice of the web, www.paranoia.com/~express. This space I purchased from an enterprising young man that went by the name of KevinTX. He ran paranoia.com. I didn't know anything about running my own domain at the time. Kevin took care of all those details. At the time, paranoia.com was one of the coolest websites out there. Kevin sold space to all sorts of degenerates like me. If I remember correctly, paranoia.com was also the birthplace of The World Sex Guide.
In the early days, I wrote many of the reviews for the clubs I frequented, and yes, I snatched other reviews off of the alt.sex.strip-clubs newsgroup (ASS-C). There was also another website that dealt with strip clubs; Grimace Nudie Club List, run by Larry D. Grim. I am not sure what happened to that list, or to Larry, but I do remember that we were always very cordial to each other in emails, and often shared information. Soon The Ultimate Strip Club List started eating too much of paranoia.com's bandwidth, so KevinTX helped me set up my own server. This was the birth of tuscl.com. This was 1995, the date you see in the headline. This was also about the time the Internet really started to progress. New web server software was being written that allowed programmers to create web pages dynamically. I remember the first day I saw a beta (or maybe alpha) version of what was to become Microsoft's ASP platform. I knew I could make tuscl.com better. So I created the idea of users, and reviews, and chats and all sorts of other things. Does anyone remember when tuscl.com had a classified ads section?
Now I never really tracked how much bandwidth tuscl.com was using, or how many pages were being served, or any of those advertising metrics that are so important nowadays. I just knew it was fun to make the website do what I wanted, and I think the users appreciated it. But then one day, I was in a bookstore (remember those?) and I picked up an Internet Directory. This was in 1996, pre-google, pre-yahoo. Internet Directories were in book form. I of course looked in the index for strip clubs, and yep, there it was, my site, www.tuscl.com listed in print. Wow. That was pretty cool to see. So know I figured I should be making some money off this little site of mine. So I started taking porn ads. Raise your hand if you remember those charming banners, that so eloquently graced the pages of tuscl.com for 5 or so years. They were disgusting, crude and annoying, but they did pay for my bandwidth costs, but not much more.
So life rolled on for 5 years from 1996 to 2001. I was busy with my job and just sort of babysat tuscl.com for those years. I made some enhancements, and every 18 months or so I would overhaul the whole look of the site. Then September 11, 2001 happened. That shattered me for a month. I remember taking tuscl.com down for a day or two to get myself together. At the request of many users, I put it back on line to let people discuss that day. But it wasn't the same, and I wasn't the same. The porn ads were drying up, no one was clicking on them. I started paying for the bandwidth again out of my own pocket. I started getting emails from people complaining about the amount of ads, and how long it took to load. I had to do something. So I figured out how to charge for tuscl.com. On tax day, April 15, 2002, the membership tuscl.com was launched. I had no idea if people would pay for tuscl.com or not, and frankly, I didn't care. I figured it was either going to pay for itself, or I was going to shelve it. By this time, I had already written 50 websites for different clients. I didn't need to learn from tuscl.com anymore.
Well, I guess since we're now approaching the 5th anniversary of tuscl.com as a membership site, you could say the membership experiment worked out ok. I have been able to work more on tuscl.com, move it to a better server, and add really cool features. And I have more stuff in my mind that I just need to get time to implement that will really make tuscl.com the best strip club site ever.
So that's about it in a nutshell. The Ultimate Strip Club at 15 years old. You may be wondering why I haven't mentioned stripclublist.com in this history. Wonder no more, here are my feelings on that. The guy that owned SCL originally was a prick. He stole tuscl.com's data, all the way down to misspelled street names. Then he sold SCL to some strip club conglomerate. I am not sure how much he made, and I really don't care. SCL has basically become what tuscl.com was in 2001: just one big worthless porn ad.
Anyway, if you're still reading, I just want to say thanks to all the people that gave input over all the years. And continue to give input, I do read every email. I know sometimes I don't answer, but I do read them. I don't read the discussion board as often as I'd like, but I do have a job, so I can't do this full time.
Have fun, and slip a dollar in her g-string for me
F
In the early days, I wrote many of the reviews for the clubs I frequented, and yes, I snatched other reviews off of the alt.sex.strip-clubs newsgroup (ASS-C). There was also another website that dealt with strip clubs; Grimace Nudie Club List, run by Larry D. Grim. I am not sure what happened to that list, or to Larry, but I do remember that we were always very cordial to each other in emails, and often shared information. Soon The Ultimate Strip Club List started eating too much of paranoia.com's bandwidth, so KevinTX helped me set up my own server. This was the birth of tuscl.com. This was 1995, the date you see in the headline. This was also about the time the Internet really started to progress. New web server software was being written that allowed programmers to create web pages dynamically. I remember the first day I saw a beta (or maybe alpha) version of what was to become Microsoft's ASP platform. I knew I could make tuscl.com better. So I created the idea of users, and reviews, and chats and all sorts of other things. Does anyone remember when tuscl.com had a classified ads section?
Now I never really tracked how much bandwidth tuscl.com was using, or how many pages were being served, or any of those advertising metrics that are so important nowadays. I just knew it was fun to make the website do what I wanted, and I think the users appreciated it. But then one day, I was in a bookstore (remember those?) and I picked up an Internet Directory. This was in 1996, pre-google, pre-yahoo. Internet Directories were in book form. I of course looked in the index for strip clubs, and yep, there it was, my site, www.tuscl.com listed in print. Wow. That was pretty cool to see. So know I figured I should be making some money off this little site of mine. So I started taking porn ads. Raise your hand if you remember those charming banners, that so eloquently graced the pages of tuscl.com for 5 or so years. They were disgusting, crude and annoying, but they did pay for my bandwidth costs, but not much more.
So life rolled on for 5 years from 1996 to 2001. I was busy with my job and just sort of babysat tuscl.com for those years. I made some enhancements, and every 18 months or so I would overhaul the whole look of the site. Then September 11, 2001 happened. That shattered me for a month. I remember taking tuscl.com down for a day or two to get myself together. At the request of many users, I put it back on line to let people discuss that day. But it wasn't the same, and I wasn't the same. The porn ads were drying up, no one was clicking on them. I started paying for the bandwidth again out of my own pocket. I started getting emails from people complaining about the amount of ads, and how long it took to load. I had to do something. So I figured out how to charge for tuscl.com. On tax day, April 15, 2002, the membership tuscl.com was launched. I had no idea if people would pay for tuscl.com or not, and frankly, I didn't care. I figured it was either going to pay for itself, or I was going to shelve it. By this time, I had already written 50 websites for different clients. I didn't need to learn from tuscl.com anymore.
Well, I guess since we're now approaching the 5th anniversary of tuscl.com as a membership site, you could say the membership experiment worked out ok. I have been able to work more on tuscl.com, move it to a better server, and add really cool features. And I have more stuff in my mind that I just need to get time to implement that will really make tuscl.com the best strip club site ever.
So that's about it in a nutshell. The Ultimate Strip Club at 15 years old. You may be wondering why I haven't mentioned stripclublist.com in this history. Wonder no more, here are my feelings on that. The guy that owned SCL originally was a prick. He stole tuscl.com's data, all the way down to misspelled street names. Then he sold SCL to some strip club conglomerate. I am not sure how much he made, and I really don't care. SCL has basically become what tuscl.com was in 2001: just one big worthless porn ad.
Anyway, if you're still reading, I just want to say thanks to all the people that gave input over all the years. And continue to give input, I do read every email. I know sometimes I don't answer, but I do read them. I don't read the discussion board as often as I'd like, but I do have a job, so I can't do this full time.
Have fun, and slip a dollar in her g-string for me
F
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So do I. It will be 40 years on 3/20/67. But I still answere all email messages.
This Founder thing is already old. If you don't like it here go start your own board....
It's good to hear that you remain committed to improving the site. Just yesterday, I noticed that the mapping feature had been added for Canadian clubs, so that's cool.
A couple of questions. Do you recall when the Discussion Board was added? I know it must have been some time before I even noticed it was here, two or three years ago.
If the membership began in 2002, how come some User Info pages state membership since an earlier date (e.g., Yoda's says 1999)? Do those dates represent nickname registration, not VIP membership? Any idea how far back they go?
Now for a suggestion, about suggestions. Occasionally, questions will come up in threads here about why this or that has or hasn't changed on the site. In recent months, a lot having to do with the frequency one can post reviews for a single club. Perhaps if you posted policy changes to the discussion board and responded to suggestions here rather than in individual emails, you could save yourself some time and cut down on the volume of duplicate questions you receive. And I'm not including crybaby complainers in this. Keep on ignoring them for all I care. Anything that could keep us less in the dark without taking you away from working on the site would be appreciated.
Anyway, thanks, Founder, for a great site. And thanks for the history, it's very interesting. Now if only you would expand TUSCL to include other forms of live adult entertainment like massage parlors and lingerie modeling studios, both of which compete directly with strip clubs and which are often so similar to strip clubs that it's hard to define which is which ...
Founder, just to satisfy my curiouisity, how do you decide what is and is not a strip club for purposes of this list? As Yoda points out, I did once see a lingerie modeling place reviewed here but then the review disappeared shortly thereafter. Seems to me that some of the tiny places whose reviews remain here aren't much different.
Anyway, this thread is supposed to be about TUSCL, not one person's past dramas, so let's get back to it, shall we? Sorry for the distraction.
And what about Shadowcat/Igiveup? Jesus Christ we all wish you would give up. Shut the fuck up, and realize that this site does belong to the founder not you. He makes the rules and can ban whoever he chooses. If you want to start being a dictator instead of just a dick, go out and learn how to program your own site. Rent your own server space and see how much you appreciate some cheap old bastard bitching constantly in every thread how he is the only one on planet earth who is right.
If I were the Founder I'd say "Fuck all of you unapreciative mother fuckers", shut TUSCL down and go get drunk.
Before I found TUSCL, I'd eagerly await the new edition of the yellow pages--you know, the book of phone numbers--to see if there were any new strip clubs around. I'd hit a city on business, check into my hotel room, and go straight to the yellow pages. Some cheap hotels didn't have phone books, so I'd take some scratch paper down to the lobby, and hope that I could go through a phone book without someone peaking over my shoulder. TUSCL is a great improvement. Thanks.
I never knew that anything other than strip clubs could be reviewed here. Apparently neither do most other people. I did a search out of curiosity for massage parlor and didn't find any in the US. Found one for Scotland. I'm wondering if I could give a review for Hooters. I had a waitress dance for me at one. Very nice looking girl in short shorts. Seemed extremely happy. I can only hope to think that it was because I sat at one of her tables.
I'd still like to know Founder's definition of a strip club, which I've never seen written here.
I'll look through past threads for Founder's previously stated definition. I know you must have seen it, because it was in reply to your query. You just didn't like the answer.
As you know, I have proudly contributed many reviews and photographs and updates. I thoroughly enjoy this website and its improvements. I'll certainly continue to help keep this site a favorite for all.
Keep up the good work, as you have one hell of a bunch of fans on your side!
>What does a club have to have to be included on TUSCL? Fri, Oct 7, 2005 @ 2:18 pm
Posted by: founder
we pretty much post any review, as long as it meets the criteria stated on the add review page. As for what type of club, well, again, we pretty much take anything that has anything to do with scantily clad women hanging out...
As for a review disappearing, that usually does not happen unless there is a legal threat (we just dont want to deal with it)<
>And I agree with your point about the importance of individual performers (except that I didn't mention escorts, who are adequately reviewed elsewhere), but isn't that equally true of strip clubs? Seems to me that most reviews focus on specific girls at least as much as the club itself. In fact several people here have criticized me for suggesting that reviews should not be based on a particular experience that one has on a particular evening with a particular girl.<
You've said you use sites that review escorts and massage parlors, haven't you? Don't they focus on the provider and info on her attributes and services, with the establishment secondary?
And I agree with your point that other sites where places like massage parlors and lingerie modeling are reviewed tend to focus on the individual performer rather than the place itself. Which is why I'd like to see such places reviewed here. But I still don't think such reviews would pass muster - I've only ever seen one such place reviewed here and that review was pulled within days. And I wonder why.
And I agree with everything else you've said too, except that I'm still puzzled by the question of what is and what isn't a strip club. For example, one of the clubs listed that I'm familiar with is basically a XXX-bookstore which has a small room in back where a girl sometimes dances on a tiny stage in an attempt to sell other private activities. To me that's not a strip club. And some of the other places listed are simply brothels.
Excellent post. And to think, I've been on here almost from the beginning.
I remember 9/11/01 all to well and the TUSCL "shutdown". I was up in Ohio at the time and being out of my home turf, TUSCL was an important research tool. At that time I needed comforting, and TUSCL was a tool I used.
Anyway, all I can say is THANKS!
In Alan Markovitz's book, he says he owns TUSCL. Is this still true? And what about mention I saw on here about Mark Zuckerberg. I can't find any stories on the web.
Yes. I looked at Yoda's profile. He visited recently. Do you know what happened to FONDL. I see has not visited in some time. If I recall he was an older gentleman so I'm ho
So I am hoping his health is good. I remember him because he would PM me to offer encouragement in my weight loss. Good man.
You're to oneris to die! :)
Interesting to see shadowcat was one of the bad-boys/rebels of TUSCL back in the day and really mixed it up w/ other TUSCLers :)
Makes one wonder what has happened to many regular TUSCL contributors when they stop posting – passed away – given up the game – who knows – such is life.
The thread was an interesting trip back in time.
Perhaps Founder should produce a new thread based on TUSCL’s 20th anniversary with updates from the last 5 years.
By the way RL did get banned.
Ban that yoda fucker
My request: could you please reverse the order of these posts so the newest are on top?
At one time, I seem to recall, you had burlesque and brothel categories. We have a couple of burlesque houses in my town. And I'm planning on visiting some brothels in Nevada - I can find those reviews elsewhere, however.
Thanks for all your work on this, the most perfect strip club review list!
I'd like to hear from more women whether dancers or customers or bartenders or....?
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But I thought I'd read that user names were not required at first on TUSCL - if so when were TUSCL names required?