review comment
4 months ago
Wont the capital one ATM charge even more for withdrawals/conversions unless you bank with them?
review comment
4 months ago
Rock youre saying its fake, why? Some of it is accurate, is it the part regarding dancers meeting OTC?
discussion comment
6 months ago
WiseToo theres some members on here who have had great success with sugarbabies and the SA site. The examples you posted, seem to be more like a scammer who has a SO or something, and the second option comes across like someone cheating on their SO or something.
Theres some guys who use SA and actually pay after, not up front. So there is little risk to being scammed. I assume they pick the restaurant themselves too.
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6 months ago
Ronjax good points. Although, the $500 for an hour for instance is much more than most or any stripper could make in an hour. In fact their lap dance/champagne rooms are timed so i dont think any stripper could make $500 in an hour unless theres lots of tips involved
Those SBs only pulling in 1-2k a month are doing it intentionally because it’s basically a part time job and they purposely want to limit their number of clients.
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6 months ago
Yea the sites like seeking bring more competition in the industry but its a good thing for consumers- and good for providers too as it forces them to provide proper service to compete.
Also dropping 10k to 20k a month on a single provider is ridiculous. Even if she guarantees exclusivity it would be ridiculous, but i wonder if they would even guarantee exclusivity for that. You could easily spend 1k for a 9 or 10
discussion comment
6 months ago
Seeking arrangements can be like escorting. They can charge $500 an hour, plus possibly get paid for dates plus get free tickets to concerts or games, free dining at high end restaurants etc.
discussion comment
6 months ago
What if you reported someone based on online reviews you read? Also if its not solicitation what is it when a girl offers you a sex service for money. It cant be legal to do that
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6 months ago
I didnt say escorts launder money. That was referring to a prostitute. The prostitute was the one who took money up front, then started offering “full service” for an extra few hundred or a condom blowjob for an extra $500. At that point its no longer an escort but a prostitution offer. With an escort you would pay for an hour and there would be no discussion of xyz dollar amounts for specific services.
discussion comment
6 months ago
Sorry for the repeat random questions. Is it possible to work out a deal with cops where you hand over 6 or 7 different escorts who have pimps, in exchange for not getting in any trouble at all
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6 months ago
Also what if you read online comments or reviews of an escort, where other people are claiming she scammed, or has a pimp or etc and then you send all that info to the police? What can they get you on in that case, just browsing an escort forum or site? You could even arrange a meeting with the scammer escort just to question her on the scamming behaviors, and if her pimp comes out during that meeting, you could contact police to get her pimp? In that case you wouldn’t even have given money to the escort, or done any sexual activity.
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6 months ago
If both sides are afraid to get the cops involved does that mean you can also harass the escort or her pimp over text, rob them if you see them, use fake numbers to set up fake appointments to try to get them to drive around different places for outcall appointments etc?
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6 months ago
Also what about people who use escorts just to talk to them, or just for lapdances? Youre saying these people would be able to get arrested just for admitting to seeing an escort?
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6 months ago
Majorboobage how is escorting not legal, if thats the case how come escort websites can openly advertise escort listings? Whereas there are no websites openly selling drugs or steroids or other illegal things.
Youre misphrasing my point. I never stated I would contact the police and claim an escort scammed me because i didn’t receive a sex act.
I specifically mentioned an escort who I paid for an hour but wanted me to leave after 30 minutes. Its shorting on time. I paid for an hour, got 30 minutes. Just like a massage or anything else.
As far as solicitation, then what is the crime if a woman offers sexual services for money? I thought either case is solicitation. It definitely is still illegal to offer sex services for money.
If both escorts and johns are afraid of getting the police involved, that means if an escort does scam, you can beat them up or rob them and likely get away with it? Are their pimps too afraid to confront johns in person, since pimping is a felony?
discussion comment
6 months ago
Majorboobage i know you cant do anything legally speaking with an escort who doesn’t provide sexual services. But im referring to specifically being shorted on time. Escorts are paid by time they have to spend with you, just like youd pay a therapist or massage person based on time. If they say $450 per hour and want you to leave after 30 minutes, and refuse to refund you, isnt that theft? Because of the shorting on time. Which is the entire reason why escorting is legal while prostitution isnt.
Also what about the fact that the escort had a pimp, and also claimed to be working for a company? Pimping/pandering and money laundering are felonies. If you report a felony like that to the cops, will they still try coming after you or the escort for misdemeanor soliciting charges?
Lastly can you be arrested for soliciting, just for seeing an escort and paying her $400+ up front for an hour of time? I thought they need something more specific like a specific discussion and intent of exchanging money for sexual services? In that case if the escort is the one taking your money up front for the hour, then after the fact starts telling you if you want full service you need to pay another $200, doesnt that count as soliciting on her end
article comment
7 months ago
$500 lasts for 3 weeks in colombia? That is insanely cheap. Is it safe to travel and visit colombia though?
Yeah the brothel girls in nevada dont seem to be worth paying for.
But what you mentioned regarding germany seems like a good deal as well. There must be a lot of fools willing to pay these $500 rates for low quality women, for them all to be asking for that rate. Some of those women, many guys wouldn’t even do anything with for free yet still command $500 an hour. Escorting has only become more popular and accepted over time, so prices shouldn’t be so high. Also the famous pornstars and onlyfans girls with hundreds of thousands or even millions of followers, are still charging $1000 or $1200 an hour. That tells you an average no name girl has no business charging $500 an hour unless she is exceptional or providing some sort of extra services other girls wont provide.
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7 months ago
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Your normal ITC activity is a condom HJ and lapdance? Wow, that is something probably almost any dancer or escort would be willing to do. That level of service is worth no more than $200.
$350-$500 an hour is the standard rate for full service. Which includes not just CFS but also a CBJ and even BBBJ most of the time, and DATY and kissing as long as the girl isnt pimped out by a boyfriend. Whats the point of a CBJ or CHJ? It basically is the same as doing it yourself
The $700+ price point is actually what renowned famous women charge for an hour of full service. Olivia fox/tayler mercier, a former playboy model over in houston, charges $700 an hour. She also has incredible reviews online. The $700 an hour includes standard CFS, and BBBJ and DATY and kissing and she even allows fingering. Its all stuff your trashy, scamming, pimped out stripper or escort would never do. For those girls, fingering or DATY or kissing is considered cheating.
Brazzers pornstars charge $1000+ an hour. Spencer scott, jenna starr, julianna vega, numerous other brazzers stars do escorting and charge $1000 to $1200 an hour. Any regular stripper from a club asking for more than $500 an hour for full service is delusional and a scammer of some kind.
If you just want a HJ and petting that is standard massage girl stuff the online massage girls offer. And its $200 or $300 an hour.
discussion comment
8 months ago
Motorhead i am just wondering do you think wearing glasses; poor eyesight is a defect caused by inbreeding?
It is definitely a weakness of some kind since some people naturally have perfect vision. The causes include nutritional deficiencies, poor genetics which basically just means poor nutrition or poor environment somewhere along the family lineage..: chemical exposure… inbreeding can probably affect the genes negatively too.
As far as the older women getting orgasms and younger women being inexperienced, one thing to keep in mind is many of these escorts and strippers with boyfriends or pimps have a no cumming rule so will go out of their way to try not to cum with clients. They wont let you finger or rub the pussy or eat the pussy or suck the nips too much- so the only way to get them off is if you last long - that’s assuming she doesnt end the sex itself too if youre lasting too long there
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8 months ago
I don’t think porn marketers used milf to mean larger boobs. But i think at least 10 years ago, milf in porn would mean a hot older woman. The literal meaning does include mother, and it is used for younger mothers nowadays too, but the porn term was usually for 40+ women. Just like how GILF porn is like 60+ women with white hair even though technically a 38 year old woman could be a GILF.
I don’t have any specific fantasy or attraction to someone being a mom, on the contrary I would usually not want to get with a mom for relationship purposes. But i did always like older women , because i liked fatter women and in the past, an older woman would more often be fatter. The milfs i do like still look good for their age, the facial features still matter. Its mostly that i dont mind an older looking face and a fatter body.
Of course with surgeries now there are 40+ and even 50+ women who look amazing.
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8 months ago
So for me personally, i dont even bother with american girls unless its dances at the strip club (where i will assume its a dance only, and any extras if available would be pathetic or a scam attempt). At this point, I stick to pornstars, eastern europeans, brazilians, cubans, arabians, etc.
instead of paying $500 an hour twice and getting ripped off, its better to just spend a few hundred to go to vegas or California or New York, and $1000 to see one of the numerous onlyfans girls or pornstars in those areas.
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8 months ago
With pornstars, you can actually get BBFS if you can provide recent test results.
In my experience there is a problem with how american girls are raised. The best experiences i have had with strippers or escorts has been foreign raised women like cubans, brazilians, turkish, middle eastern, eastern european. The key factor is they were raised in those other countries and came to the US later.
If they came to the US at a young age or were born and raised here, no matter what ethnicity, they are more likely to have ridiculous demands whether in a relationship or for escorting or stripping.
The other thing is american culture also includes hip hop culture, gang culture, and open relationship culture all of which are twisted. Many of these other countries arent as open to pimping or open relationships as the US.
So if youre seeing a cuban girl otc, IMO shes more likely to be single, or not single but cheating on her SO, than be in an open relationship or pimp situation. Since the situation in itself is cheating, she wont care if you make her cum unlike a pimped girl who considers kissing or cumming specifically to be cheating.
The nice thing about pornstars and some onlyfans girls is they regularly have bareback sex with multiple different partners. So even if they have a boyfriend or husband, its a different situation than a possessive pimp or boyfriend who doesnt want her cumming with clients, where the clients arent allowed to play with her pussy or daty or play with her boobs.
article comment
8 months ago
The thing with BBFS is that it ironically is only safe with providers who dont offer it. If a provider offers it herself in the first meeting, it’s definitely risky and she offers it to others. The key is to find a provider you can trust, and maybe by the third visit you can do BBFS if you both trust each other. But i mean being fully honest about anyone else youre barebacking. If shes doing bbfs with other clients its not safe. For me to do bbfs with a provider, i would only do it if I had to convince her to do it over time.
Now BBBJ is something i would expect from a high end escort, an added bonus is if they swallow but that isnt as common.
I had a similar scare where i brushed my teeth really good, and two hours later, did DATY on someone for 30 minutes straight. The next day, I had a flight back home and people sitting next to me were coughing and sneezing. The day after, i had a severe cough that lasted maybe 1 week or 10 days, and constantly had the taste of blood and her pussy juices in my mouth. Im not sure if i got something from her or from the people on the plane. Some providers really want DATY if they dont have someone else doing it.
discussion comment
8 months ago
What about women who live in Vegas but tour other states either as escorts or strippers? Are they likely to be scammers and ripoffs too?
article comment
8 months ago
Do they actually grind their pussy across your body? How does that work when you turn over, as far as genital to genital contact? Do they actually slide their bare genitals across your bare genitals as well. There wouldnt be penetration, but still some STD risk I would think due to the fluids potentially coming into contact?
discussion comment
8 months ago
What was your mongering experience there like georgi?
discussion comment
8 months ago
Ive only been to the renaissance there for hotels.
For casinos, i dont know about gambling. We went to different casinos because of the sight seeing and just seeing the hotel itself. Bellagio, caesars palace, mandalay bay, luxor…
We also probably didnt go to the best restaurants. People were crazy over in n out burger then, because its a west coast only chain I believe