Significant number of west coast girls coming to the east coast to scam people
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There are some common trends… these are all pimped out girls who provide poor service… they are scammers who will for instance take the $400 or $500 fee for the hour up front, then start soliciting you saying they’ll do xyz sexual activity if you pay an additional amount. If you refuse, they’ll say you can play with their boobs and offer you a HJ, or just want you to leave the room. These chicks tend to look average or even below average in the face.
Im wondering why spend all the time, effort and expense to come here all the way from the west coast, just to scam people. Is there a lot more competition in those cities compared to DC or baltimore
Also can you get the cops involved in this scenario… since they are stealing as well as offering sexual services for money as well as working for pimps… possibly money laundering as well. They post on escort websites like tryst or eros, but they dont act like other escorts do. With a normal escort, you hand over the money for the time period and there is no discussion of what will happen and no discussion of additional fees for specific acts
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if they're working in manhattan they'll just rent one room. if a john wants to be with one of the girls the rest just go to the bathroom and stay there until you're done.
in the rest of the boroughs those girls would just rent out different rooms at some shitty hotel. a majority of these girls i noticed post on listcrawler. i'd say 20% i'd be at least somewhat interested in seeing while the rest are just outright dreadful.
You gave her the money, so there is no way to stretch this situation into a criminal charge for stealing. You understandably feel like she took the money under false pretenses, but that gets into the world of contracts and fraud where any potential civil charge is negated by the fact that you were giving her money for an illegal purpose. Best case scenario is that the police don't arrest you for soliciting, but even that's not guaranteed.
Also what about the fact that the escort had a pimp, and also claimed to be working for a company? Pimping/pandering and money laundering are felonies. If you report a felony like that to the cops, will they still try coming after you or the escort for misdemeanor soliciting charges?
Lastly can you be arrested for soliciting, just for seeing an escort and paying her $400+ up front for an hour of time? I thought they need something more specific like a specific discussion and intent of exchanging money for sexual services? In that case if the escort is the one taking your money up front for the hour, then after the fact starts telling you if you want full service you need to pay another $200, doesnt that count as soliciting on her end
That said, if you pay someone for an hour of their time for a completely legal service like therapy and they leave after 30 minutes without a refund, that's generally going to be breach of contract (or perhaps fraud or conversion) rather than theft. I suppose it's possible for something like that to rise to the level of theft, depending on scope, but in a case involving just a few hundred bucks, you would have a civil case, not a criminal one. It might help your case to have a police report, but the police wouldn't arrest that person.
In terms of solicitation, that's the crime of offering someone money to induce them to commit an illegal act. So generally only the john is on the hook for that.
Bottom line, if you pay a woman with an expectation of getting a sex act and it doesn't happen, things are going to get worse instead of better if you try to get the police involved. Better to never again use that provider and move on.
Youre misphrasing my point. I never stated I would contact the police and claim an escort scammed me because i didn’t receive a sex act.
I specifically mentioned an escort who I paid for an hour but wanted me to leave after 30 minutes. Its shorting on time. I paid for an hour, got 30 minutes. Just like a massage or anything else.
As far as solicitation, then what is the crime if a woman offers sexual services for money? I thought either case is solicitation. It definitely is still illegal to offer sex services for money.
If both escorts and johns are afraid of getting the police involved, that means if an escort does scam, you can beat them up or rob them and likely get away with it? Are their pimps too afraid to confront johns in person, since pimping is a felony?
But ask yourself this -- and honestly, you don't have to answer here, just ask yourself. If you really think what these women are doing is legal, then why do you assume they're laundering money?
As for why some escort sites haven't been taken down yet, they probably haven't gotten big enough to land on LE's radar yet. I don't recall if dearly departed Backpage billed itself as an "escort" site, although I definitely remember they tried to claim they were not a prostitution site. I'm pretty sure dearly departed City X Guide purported to offer "escort" services.