Significant number of west coast girls coming to the east coast to scam people

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• rattdog

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  3 months ago

  some of these girls do make their way to nyc. they usually travel in groups of 2-4. if they're working in manhattan they'll just rent one room. if a john wants to be with one of the girls the rest just go to the bathroom and stay there until you're done. in the rest of the boroughs those girls would just rent out different rooms at some shitty hotel. a majority of these girls i noticed post on listcrawler. i'd say 20% i'd be at least somewhat interested in seeing while the rest are just outright dreadful.
• MajorBoobage

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  3 months ago

  I wouldn't recommend calling the police to tell them the hooker you hired ripped you off. You gave her the money, so there is no way to stretch this situation into a criminal charge for stealing. You understandably feel like she took the money under false pretenses, but that gets into the world of contracts and fraud where any potential civil charge is negated by the fact that you were giving her money for an illegal purpose. Best case scenario is that the police don't arrest you for soliciting, but even that's not guaranteed.
• rickmacrodong

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  3 months ago

  Majorboobage i know you cant do anything legally speaking with an escort who doesn’t provide sexual services. But im referring to specifically being shorted on time. Escorts are paid by time they have to spend with you, just like youd pay a therapist or massage person based on time. If they say $450 per hour and want you to leave after 30 minutes, and refuse to refund you, isnt that theft? Because of the shorting on time. Which is the entire reason why escorting is legal while prostitution isnt. Also what about the fact that the escort had a pimp, and also claimed to be working for a company? Pimping/pandering and money laundering are felonies. If you report a felony like that to the cops, will they still try coming after you or the escort for misdemeanor soliciting charges? Lastly can you be arrested for soliciting, just for seeing an escort and paying her $400+ up front for an hour of time? I thought they need something more specific like a specific discussion and intent of exchanging money for sexual services? In that case if the escort is the one taking your money up front for the hour, then after the fact starts telling you if you want full service you need to pay another $200, doesnt that count as soliciting on her end
• nicespice

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  3 months ago

  They are in Baltimore to see you 😁
• MajorBoobage

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  3 months ago

  Rick, escorting isn't legal. Law enforcement views it as prostitution. They simply don't buy the story that you're paying the woman only for her time, and that a sex act just happens by coincidence. Police might or might not arrest you in addition to going after the escort and/or pimp. It could depend on a lot of things, including what jurisdiction you're in, but they absolutely COULD arrest you. That said, if you pay someone for an hour of their time for a completely legal service like therapy and they leave after 30 minutes without a refund, that's generally going to be breach of contract (or perhaps fraud or conversion) rather than theft. I suppose it's possible for something like that to rise to the level of theft, depending on scope, but in a case involving just a few hundred bucks, you would have a civil case, not a criminal one. It might help your case to have a police report, but the police wouldn't arrest that person. In terms of solicitation, that's the crime of offering someone money to induce them to commit an illegal act. So generally only the john is on the hook for that. Bottom line, if you pay a woman with an expectation of getting a sex act and it doesn't happen, things are going to get worse instead of better if you try to get the police involved. Better to never again use that provider and move on.
• Manuellabore

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  3 months ago

  The reason they move around is that they scoop up the low-lying fruit first, typically with pics that are fake or very out of date. Within a couple weeks, they've exhausted the supply of dupes who patrol the escort sites and know they're not getting any repeat business in the locality so it's time to move on
• rickmacrodong

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  3 months ago

  Majorboobage how is escorting not legal, if thats the case how come escort websites can openly advertise escort listings? Whereas there are no websites openly selling drugs or steroids or other illegal things. Youre misphrasing my point. I never stated I would contact the police and claim an escort scammed me because i didn’t receive a sex act. I specifically mentioned an escort who I paid for an hour but wanted me to leave after 30 minutes. Its shorting on time. I paid for an hour, got 30 minutes. Just like a massage or anything else. As far as solicitation, then what is the crime if a woman offers sexual services for money? I thought either case is solicitation. It definitely is still illegal to offer sex services for money. If both escorts and johns are afraid of getting the police involved, that means if an escort does scam, you can beat them up or rob them and likely get away with it? Are their pimps too afraid to confront johns in person, since pimping is a felony?
• rickmacrodong

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  3 months ago

  Also what about people who use escorts just to talk to them, or just for lapdances? Youre saying these people would be able to get arrested just for admitting to seeing an escort?
• rickmacrodong

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  3 months ago

  If both sides are afraid to get the cops involved does that mean you can also harass the escort or her pimp over text, rob them if you see them, use fake numbers to set up fake appointments to try to get them to drive around different places for outcall appointments etc?
• rickmacrodong

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  3 months ago

  Also what if you read online comments or reviews of an escort, where other people are claiming she scammed, or has a pimp or etc and then you send all that info to the police? What can they get you on in that case, just browsing an escort forum or site? You could even arrange a meeting with the scammer escort just to question her on the scamming behaviors, and if her pimp comes out during that meeting, you could contact police to get her pimp? In that case you wouldn’t even have given money to the escort, or done any sexual activity.
• rickmacrodong

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  3 months ago

  Sorry for the repeat random questions. Is it possible to work out a deal with cops where you hand over 6 or 7 different escorts who have pimps, in exchange for not getting in any trouble at all
• MajorBoobage

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  3 months ago

  Well, if you ever get arrested for seeing an escort, you're free to try all of those arguments in court. But ask yourself this -- and honestly, you don't have to answer here, just ask yourself. If you really think what these women are doing is legal, then why do you assume they're laundering money? As for why some escort sites haven't been taken down yet, they probably haven't gotten big enough to land on LE's radar yet. I don't recall if dearly departed Backpage billed itself as an "escort" site, although I definitely remember they tried to claim they were not a prostitution site. I'm pretty sure dearly departed City X Guide purported to offer "escort" services.
• rickmacrodong

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  3 months ago

  I didnt say escorts launder money. That was referring to a prostitute. The prostitute was the one who took money up front, then started offering “full service” for an extra few hundred or a condom blowjob for an extra $500. At that point its no longer an escort but a prostitution offer. With an escort you would pay for an hour and there would be no discussion of xyz dollar amounts for specific services.
• rickmacrodong

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  3 months ago

  What if you reported someone based on online reviews you read? Also if its not solicitation what is it when a girl offers you a sex service for money. It cant be legal to do that
• 5footguy

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  3 months ago

  Just one more reasons to prefer SCs over escorts.