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5 years ago
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CC99Say yes to the sex industry!
No you haven't been to this college so you don't get it. I never see couples, I swear they are a critically endangered species on my campus. They basically don't exist. Not even once have I met a cute girl here who said she was looking for a boyfriend. If they are out there, they're taken. The best I could hope for is maybe a FWB. But even then, you can't ask a FWB to create an advanced dating simulation for you. I don't even know if I can ask a girlfriend to do this. Plus it wouldn't feel the same if a girlfriend pretended to be your girlfriend but at a different age.
I need to do this because my youth is incomplete. I can't move on yet. Instead of continuing to wage your crusade against prostitution you can tell me what the best way is do this?
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5 years ago
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CC99Say yes to the sex industry!
I'm still at the age where I can pass for a teenager though, I can still feel like one. My youth is incomplete, I need to fix it, this is my last chance. If I don't do it now its over, I will live with regret for the rest of my life.
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5 years ago
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CC99Say yes to the sex industry!
"Plus, I don’t think even the DS would have been willing to follow a pre written script about how our date should go. That’s a very advanced form of prostitution. "
Its not really a pre-written script as in word for word what to say. I don't even want that. Its more like just general guidelines for what happens.
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5 years ago
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CC99Say yes to the sex industry!
I thought about the sugar baby route but I don't know if sugar babies will go along with this kind of thing. As for an escort, escorts cost truly insane amounts of money per hour and you can't lower the rate just because "this episode doesn't involve intimacy." Its enough that its very difficult to pull something like this off unless you've got bank rolls lying around your house everywhere. Not to mention the whole "we have two hours bought" thing is a real buzzkill. With a stripper at least I could just give a flat rate for the whole thing and they won't watch the clock.
"If you just learn how to play it some, you can have good makeout sessions with whatever women you know. Strip Club ITC will have its limits, but respected posters have related good ITC makeout sessions. But once you have your girl out side, you just have to learn how to play it some, lead her along, and you can make it real nice."
That's not what I'm trying to do though. That's the strip club experience, I'm trying to get something a lot more advanced than that.
Its never going to happen at my college. All these girls just wanna hit it and quit it. They wouldn't be willing to do something like this. If I pay for it I can specify everything so that it plays out like a dream.
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5 years ago
No there's actually only one or two clubs located in the city itself, although I wouldn't call those clubs "urban" really, they've got more of a hipster vibe imo. But most clubs around here are actually in the suburban/metro area.
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5 years ago
No I don't want to do that. My shyness works great for me in my own clubs. The dancers all thinks its cute here, why would I leave?
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5 years ago
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IceyI put your ATF on a winning team
Yeah when I think of a golddigger I specifically think of a girl that only marries or dates you for your money and has no feelings for you whatsoever and perhaps even wants to manipulate you. I don't think there's anything wrong with, for example though, a girl factoring in how much money you make when she dates you. How much money you make and how well you'll be able to provide for her is an important thing to consider. Just like for me, a girl looking relatively pretty is an important thing to consider. I figure its only fair if I want a pretty wife that I should make plenty of money. A girl expecting a guy to be absolutely loaded with private jets and yachts and making 500k a year would be unreasonable but if the girl is a 7 in looks for example, a lot of girls who are that pretty will probably be looking for a guy who either is making six figures or is ambitious enough and has a realistic plan to make six figures some time in the future. You could still date a 7 making close to six figures but it will obviously be a lot easier if you make six figures.
I don't know, personally I don't think its really shallow for a girl to consider a man's income to be important. A lot of guys seem really bothered by girls' who care a lot about a guy's money but I consider it the equivalent of guys' caring about a girls' prettiness/beauty. I guess as a point of self-awareness though I know that, if I can find a way to just stop being so goddamn lazy that my potential to make money in the future is going to be one of the biggest advantages I have over other guys so I suppose to a certain extent I actually like that girls' prefer guys who make a lot of money over lower income men.
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5 years ago
I do pay her to pretend she likes me if she doesn't. As long as she can fake it well enough that I can't really tell, I'm good.
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5 years ago
I've been told I come across as very young and innocent. Even though I'm 21, I could easily pass for 16 if you looked at me, and my shyness along with my general demeanor makes me seem really young too. I think it works to my advantage because dancers trust me very quickly, giving me their real names and Facebook information even the first time I meet them.
I think even though I'm still shy in the strip club though, that the setting makes me just comfortable enough that I have a good middle ground where I can still go to the stage or approach dancers and stuff like that even though I feel kind of shy. But the shyness that is there just makes me cute. Whereas outside the strip club, my anxiety is crippling.
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5 years ago
The way you talk here says otherwise.
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5 years ago
No I'm definitely socially awkward. Its taboo to be openly rude to someone, so only kids or the biggest assholes will really do that. But if they're not trying to make you a part of their group then they probably don't care much for you. That took a long time for me to discover.
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5 years ago
Yeah the responses in that thread seemed pretty assholey.
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5 years ago
"But isn't this social fluency really just conformism? Isn't there really a great deal of cruelty just barely hidden below the surface?"
Exactly my point. Its very subtle but its definitely there.
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5 years ago
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IceyI put your ATF on a winning team
"But do you then agree that most of the time, the rules for sex are really just the rules for money?"
Could you specify?
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5 years ago
The main thing I like about strippers is their lack of pre-programmed thinking. Most of them seem to approach every issue critically and often come up with very unexpected and bohemian opinions on things that lack ideological alignment. Strippers, from what I've seen, have very open minds compared to most people and can help you see things in a completely different light. Being around that frequently is good for your mental development and can lead to character development for the PL who gets to know the stripper in-front of him.
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5 years ago
In my experience as well, the popular normie crowd's standards for social fluency are extremely high.
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5 years ago
I apologize then @Nicole for misinterpreting your statement on depression. I sometimes push people away too unfortunately or get so caught up in my thoughts that I forget to make time for people.
How true are those friendships though? Its easy to become acquaintances, even if you're totally different people. But do those people think of you first when they want to go eat at the dining hall? Do they invite you to their birthday parties? When its your birthday do they wish you a happy birthday? Do you actually feel completely comfortable around these people or do you feel like you have to put on a show, an act of some sort to keep them liking you?
In my experience, the popular normie crowd excludes people in very subtle ways after middle school. Its rude to be openly hostile to someone, but they often still exclude people by not inviting them to things or dodging the majority of their requests to hang out. They may even hang out with you sometimes but if they talk of being busy or something like that most of the time you text them and they don't go out of their way to set something up at a later date, its probably because they aren't a real friend.
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5 years ago
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IceyI put your ATF on a winning team
"could you be married to a woman who is likely to be cheating on you?"
Without my knowledge that she's sleeping with another guy? No I couldn't. If extra-marital relations were something we had decided upon beforehand, however, then perhaps.
I would like for my future girlfriend to be able to live life to the fullest and I don't want to be an obstacle to that but rather to help her achieve that. I also would want to protect her though so that she can remain happy. I also have my own needs, however, and I would need to make sure we have a plan to take care of those needs.
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5 years ago
I like it a lot when strippers wear bikinis and schoolgirl outfits as those are in my top two favorite outfits to see on a girl. However the short shorts and miniskirts college girls tend to wear is probably number 3 and 4. I don't really like slingshot type outfits or even standard G-strings as much as those. The main draw is that the personalities of strippers are far more attractive than most college girls
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5 years ago
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IceyI put your ATF on a winning team
Strict monogamy in marriage is usually the better system but before marriage I would Moreso promote serial monogamy, fwbs, and perhaps polyamory if people think they can handle it. Within marriage swinging works for some people, no problem with that, but it doesn't typically work for most.
The way I see it. Personality + 1 superficial value is necessary for sexual relations. For men it's always looks. Guys don't care how much money a girl has. For girls it's either looks, money, or confidence. A man has to focus on one of the three. If your looks are solid you won't need to worry. If you don't have confidence or exceptional looks then I say a guy shouldn't be opposed to a girl dating or being attracted to him even if part of the reason is his money.
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5 years ago
@PaulDrake I've thought about that myself that my instincts would just be so shocked by a girl doing that that I might jump or something out of instinct. It seems like a better idea is for her to run a hand up your leg to your junk rather than just straight grabbing it.
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5 years ago
Yes I would choose strip clubs because it's okay to do that there. No risk of a girl being like "omg I'm half naked and guys are looking at me, that's like, so weird." lol. Plus you can do a lot more than just look at strip clubs.
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5 years ago
Socially awkward doesn't mean you don't like socializing. It means you don't quite know how to do it. Given that you are depressed yourself it seems like a hypocritical contradiction to push other people away as friends because they are depressed. Quite frankly if you were super popular you would have a boyfriend. It's difficult to really juxtaposition the two positions of being super popular but also having no boyfriend.
Regardless however, being unpopular is not a character flaw. If anything it might be a positive in many cases as it shows you won't just go along with whatever other people think.
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5 years ago
"^ how so?"
We're both socially awkward for the most part, we both have stubborn ideals that would make us annoying to a lot of other people but actually for the most part fit into each other's ideals, I'm one of the few guys out there that would probably be mostly satisfied just being able to cuddle with or kiss a girl and not get upset if it didn't go further than that, we both really love cuteness, both of us dislike people who are willing to overlook somebody being a shitty human being just because they are attractive, both of us are very inexperienced for our age and would be willing to be patient with the other being new to a lot of things.
Wouldn't say we're a perfect match, but for the most part we mark off a lot of requirements so because of that I that I think we'd probably be pretty good for each other if we were to date.
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5 years ago
"I Hate foreplay as much as the next guy."
Not all guys hate foreplay. I love foreplay, sex is so much better when you have long foreplay beforehand.