Comments by wildRover (page 6)

I’m curious. Did this happen before or after the 7:00 PM shift change? Say girl or night girl?

Pussylicker. There’s this new technology called google. If you do a quick google search you’d see that no they can’t keep your keys. Not even if you’re staggeringly drunk. Try it. It’s not hard. As for the hypothetical issue with a dancer. If you think there’s going to be a problem you simply ask her to get the bouncer so that he can verify how many songs you owe her for. Then you pay her in front of the bouncer. This has been covered multiple times in other reviews. It’s not that complicated. The bottom line is that you’re inventing a problem that doesn’t exist and you seem to be doing whatever you can to discredit the Flight Club and other high end clubs. I don’t know what your motives are. Maybe you work at Bogarts or maybe you’re resentful because you can’t afford Flight Club prices. Those are the first two explanations that come to mind. Maybe it’s something else, but the whole spiel about the valets keeping your keys is just made up bullshit. It doesn’t happen.

Good review. You dodged a bullet with River. There’s a review of her below which I commented on. My experience with her was subpar. Very rushed. She’s very young and I was hoping that once she learned the ropes her performance would improve. Based on the previous review and your experience I’d have to say that either she’s an extremely slow learner or she just doesn’t give a damn about giving good service. Too bad because she’s very attractive. My guess is that she’ll be able to attract customers based solely on her looks but I can’t see many of them repeating.

“Has anyone heard of FC or PH keeping car keys because of a disagreement with an adult entertainment provider? I like giving them my keys.” No. And neither has Pussylicker. If he had he would have posted it hundreds of times by now. I’ve been going to FC off and on for a long time and have never heard of it happening. Just a bunch of made up crap as far as I’m concerned. It’s one thing to say “they can do this” or “they might do this” and an entirely different matter to provide examples of it actually happening.

“And because prices are high at this club, I'm convinced Pussylicker is such a whiney little bitch about FC because he can't actually afford fuck the 7s-10s at FC and is stuck with the two Hamilton bars and their $50 bj specials. Either he can't afford it, or he works for one of the Hamilton clubs” LMFAO. You nailed it. In another thread I accused Pussylicker of being a Bogarts shill and I still think that’s probably the case, although the “he can’t afford Flight Club” theory is also very plausible. As far as I’m concerned, the best thing about the valet at the FC is that it keeps him out. I have to say though that you really disappointed me when you started using the term GPS. I’ve always hated that term. I think what a lot of guys don’t understand is that dancers are businesswomen and they they have the right to ask for whatever price they want for the services they provide. I’m thinking about a new car and checked out a Bentley dealer. Once I saw the price tags I decided to look elsewhere but I didn’t accuse the dealer of having Golden Car Syndrome. I simply declined to purchase and turned my attention elsewhere. I know there are ladies who ask for unrealistic prices. If that happens to me I try to negotiate and if that doesn’t work I turn my attention elsewhere.

Desertscrub. I have a couple of questions for you. 1. Have you ever been to one of the Detroit area clubs? 2. If not how can you make an informed judgment as to whether a review is accurate or not? Two honest questions and I’d appreciate an honest answer but I don’t expect one. You seem to have a bias against Detroit clubs and I suspect it’s for one of two reasons. Either you can’t believe that these things actually go on in clubs with really hot ladies, or you’re jealous because they don’t go on in the shit holes in Phoenix that you usually frequent. But I’m open to changing my mind. I’m throwing it in your face. Tell me something that would make me change my mind.

Go to one of the small rooms and tell her to turn on the flashlight on her phone.

Mr. Tibbs. I understand what you’re saying but it’s not quite that simple. Bubble Yum touched on this in her post but I think it’s worth expanding on. I think most guys probably believe that if it’s a slow night it’s in the dancer’s interest to lower her prices. Some money is better than none. In the case of a dancer that’s not necessarily true. In fact, the opposite may be true. Let’s say you’re a dancer on a night when there’s a very low customer to dancer ratio. It just turned midnight, there’s more dancers than customers, and you haven’t been to the VIP room yet. A guy offers you 150 or 200 to go upstairs. Better than nothing. Right? Or is it? Once you’ve been in the VIP for more than two songs the VIP tax kicks in which I believe is 100 bucks at the Flight Club. So you end up netting 50 or 100 bucks. To put it crudely the question becomes “do you really want to get fucked by some guy you don’t know and probably find unattractive for that amount of money?” For a lot of dancers the answer will probably be no. Wait and hope for a better offer and if you don’t get it …… there’s always another night. Now if the dancer has already been to the VIP and covered the tax then the equation changes a little. Go back and reread Bubble Yums post. She explains it pretty well. The bottom line though is that the high tip outs that the dancers have to pay establishes a pretty high minimum.

“ Wait. I thought I'd read recently that Cassidy & friends were back/rehired at FC? “ Lol. They were. Now things have changed and they’ve moved to LS. I’m not sure about Rain. I didn’t see her on either of my trips but the others are definitely at LS. My understanding is that it’s probably not a permanent situation.

I had a similar experience a while back with a River at the Landing Strip. Not quite as bad as the experience you describe but very rushed. Got to the point where I lost interest. By the description you give it sounds like the same girl. This River was very young. Sounds like the LS customers got wise to her act and she’s moved it to the FC. How was the overall talent level? Last time I was at FC I was very disappointed. FWIW several of the better looking FC ladies are now at the landing strip. Thai, Cassidy, Allison and Daniella that I know of. I think there are a couple of others as well.

This is probably the first time ever, but I have to agree with desertscrub on this one. Sure sounds like a club ad to me. And yes mwtraveler, the vip rooms are extremely dark.

Interesting review. There’s actually a sign in the entrance regarding the dress code. No white T’s, hoodies or athletic wear. My understanding is that it’s wet unevenly enforced. A dancer told me that you’re much more likely to catch flack if you’re non-white. TIFWIW. It’s also interesting that they specify white T’s. My interpretation of that is that non-white T’s ar ok. I’ve never had an issue with waitresses pushing me to start a tab. When you do run a tab they never charge anything to your card until you cash out, and then they always ask if you want to leave it on the card before they charge anything. I actually find it convenient. My biggest issue with the waitresses is that you can never find one when you need. Attentive and speedy service has never been one of Flight Club’s strong suits. As far as the talent level goes I haven’t had any major complaints. Things can vary wildly from night to night but the last time I was there I had no complaints. In fact I noticed that a couple of out of town dancers who disappeared after Christmas have returned.

Have to agree with the other comments. I doubt this guy has ever set foot in the Flight Club. The club description is totally inaccurate and his info on pricing is totally out of wack with my experience. 50-5000? I can see a dancer asking for 5k if he wanted an overnighter but 50 bucks at the Flight Club? No f’ing way. And whoever heard of a dancer not even looking at the money you gave her? Especially at the Flight Club!!! I’m not buying it. I’m calling fake on this one. One last thing. I’ve run into an occasional drunk or high dancer there, but it’s not that common. All of them that way? NFW.

Pussylicker. The issue I have with your posts is that you throw out a lot of hypotheticals: they can keep your keys, they can go through your car, etc, etc. The problem is that I’ve never seen you ever give an example of it actually happening. I’ve been going to the airport area clubs since back when the Flight Club was know as the 747 and the Playhouse was actually a great place and I’ve never had an issue with my keys or the valet. Nor have I ever witnessed someone else have an issue. Haven’t ever heard about it happening either. And if they do try to keep your keys absolutely do call the police. My guess is they back down before you’ve completed dialing. The last thing these places want is a visit from the cops. Places like the Flight Club and Landing Strip are multi-multi-million dollar operations. They’re not going to put up with any bullshit from the valets. One last thing. I don’t like having to pay a valet but I feel a lot more comfortable parking it at the FC than I would at that theme park for potholes over at Bogarts.

Sorry but I can’t agree with your conclusion. To say that the girls at the flight club don’t give good value based on a rushed experience with one dancer makes no sense at all.

Pussylicker. I’m beginning to seriously suspect that you’re a Bogart’s shill. You don’t like the Flight Club. I get that. To each his own. What I don’t get is why you feel like you have to insert an ad for Bogart’s into every Flight Club thread. I don’t like Bogarts but I don’t jump into Bogarts threads with comments about how dirty the club is or how the ladies at Flight Club are much better looking. And the whole thing about your keys is just plain stupid. Sorry to call you out man but you need to give it a rest.

Thanks for the post. It’s hard to react correctly in the spur of the moment in situations like this and I probably would have done the same thing you did. But I agree with Carolina guy. If this happens again you pay her in front of the bouncer. Better yet walk over to the bouncer yourself and tell him that you’re having a disagreement and ask him how many songs you did and then pay her for the songs in front of him. You can pay her the full 250 if you want and tell the bouncer “this should be more than enough” or if you want to stick it to her pay her for just the songs. Thanks again for the post. It gives us all a chance to think about how we might handle situations like this in the future. As for the car key issue, that’s just not an issue. I’ve been going to the Flight Club off and on since it was called the 747 and I’ve never had an issue with my keys, never witnessed someone having an issue with their keys, and have never heard of anyone having an issue with theirs.

Sorry but this one is on you. I go to the Flight Club fairly often and I can assure you that there’s no shortage of dancers who enjoy couples. This comes from conversations with dancers and from observation. There are a lot of dancers who like females, so when a female shows up in the club they don’t settle for them, they COMPETE for them. One observation. Not trying to be a dick but when I read your original post I thought it exhibited a high degree of self-entitlement. Starting with the title of the post and ending with your wife’s need to point out to the dancers how wealthy you are. It’s not unusual to strike out at the flight club. You’re rich. Tip generously, be humble, and maybe you’ll have better luck.

Electronman. I hear what you’re saying and in all honesty I don’t know how much to reveal about what went on in the VIP. Basically I’m not a kiss and tell guy so I tend to err on the side of holding things back. Basically though you nailed it. The VIP’ are private and very high mileage. Papapump. Unfortunately what you say isn’t entirely true. They’ve gotten pretty lax on their smoking policy. I walked out of there last night smelling pretty smoky.

Pussylicker. I get the fact that you like bogarts. I don’t, but to each his own. What I don’t get is why you find it necessary to continually come on threads about the Flight Club and the Landing Strip and try to slam them or post your shills for other clubs. If you don’t have anything constructive to add to these threads why don’t you just stick to posting in the bogart threads and spare the rest of us the bullshit.

Searching. You’re lucky if this has only started happening to you recently. In my experience this is a very common phenomenon. Dancers will give you the brush off for a wide variety of reasons. It happens all the time and I’ve learned not to take it personally.

To return the discussion to the original topic……No I haven’t noticed an uptick in non extras dancers. Since FC became an extras club I’ve only met one dancer who didn’t do them, and that was probably ten years ago. And sorry desertscrub. The economy has nothing to do with it. Good times, bad times, it doesn’t matter. Extras are a regular thing at the Inkster/Romulus/Dearborn clubs and have been for years regardless of the state of the economy. In fact, some of the dancers I’ve talked to tell me that non extras customers are way way more common than non extras dancers.

I’ve found the daytime talent at FC to be hit or miss for quite a while. IMO nights are much better. I was there a few nights ago and there were quite a few ladies I would’ve been happy to take upstairs. Off the top of my head: Thai, Ianna, Delilah, Natalie, Blair, Ashton and Daniella. I will agree though that they have made some “questionable” hiring decisions. Electronman. Where did you hear that they have a management problem? I’ve talked to a few dancers there and they seem to be ok with management.

Lol. Thank you for clarifying the cost of the dances. I’ve been going to the Flight Club semi regularly for the last six months and have to admit that I wasn’t sure how much the lap dances were. Does anyone go there for the dances? I was there Thursday from roughly 7-9 and there were probably more dancers than customers. Great ratio for the buyers. There were a lot of really hot ladies present but I wonder how long this will persist if the number of customers doesn’t increase.

I’ve only been to BT’s once but I thought the mirrors in the VIP rooms were a nice touch. I wish some other clubs would adopt that feature.