Comments by northwest101215

As always, good thorough review.

Voos to know about the under 21. In general, any experience with them and mileage being same or worse than older dancers? I've only tried one once, at Rouge in Portland, and was thoroughly disappointed, but sample size admittedly too small.

Never been that price when i've been there, for 30 minutes in those rooms. Weekday or something else going on?

Thanks for the current update on Rouge. I've been there several times but pre-covid. Never extras either. One underage dancer tried to sell me on a lot more in that downstairs VIP room with the smoked glass, but after a half hour upstairs with her at first, I wasn't buying that at all. I believe there are cameras in the upstairs booths.

Plenty of clubs go by time rather than ngs although I don't know if it's a recent thing. I prefer it since song length can vary and it's easier to know how much time remains. Even had some dancers set a phone alarm.

Nice to see a review for Rouge. Yeah, not the cheapest but it is convenient if you're stsying in the area....more likely pre-covid. I've had mixed results in the VIP areas (both upstairs and down) and mikeage varies so have to pick carefully. I once did VIP with one of the under 21 dancers and regretted it. Lots of upsell pressure but I doubted there would be much follow through. Sounds like you did well.

Having been to both many times, although all pre pandemic, another difference is Bare has more VIP room types. It has small booths with (I think) no door or curtain, others with curtains, a couple with windows and that upstairs skybox thing. I've seen prices and mileage vary based on room type and dancer. Definitely more dancers simply because it's larger and maybe more well known. But that was pre pandemic and it sounds like things have changed.

A club ad basically telling you not to go? Yeah right. What's next, a review saying a place is permanently closed being called a club ad?????

From my experience it's usually pretty clear from their dancing whether or not they're trying to get me off. And these do seem to want the desired result....sure, for the tip. The best response from one dancer "you came a lot!" Then gave me her phone number. If any doubt, I always make sure she knows it's about to happen. And many can tell and move over a bit to avoid getting anything on them. But i've had others grind away too. Agree, dark pants commando.

I have had a dancer try to bring a second girl with us (not this club) to VIP. It was annoying particularly since I had gotten dances from the first one on a prior visit. Thanks for detail on layout change.

....was there about a month before Vaguy so similar timing and same pricing.

Sounds similar to a dancer last time I was there, admittedly a year ago. After a couple other 3 song trips in back or upstairs, I picked a cute blond from the side stages which I think is where the under 21 girls are. Mistake. Experience did not match her hints, only top roaming, pushed upsell. When done she pushed private rooms which she said were much much more mileage, etc which I didn't believe for a minute. But I did ask to look in one which she did do....it has a glass wall so inside is visible from the floor. Yeah right. Have had much better times in prior visits there. If you pick right can be good.

From several reviews, sounds like this place has gone downhill. I used to go there many years ago and had better experiences. Thursday nights were relatively busy (albeit not until late) and had a good dancer selection. Often had fun conversation and experience in the fantasy rooms. No specific extras but always FFZ except the kitty, good two way contact, and stick shifting and face to face grinding to LDK. My last time there a couple of years ago was a big disappointment. The one dancer of interest kept coughing with a cold so that ended that discussion and a sexy Asian girl with good front room skills was a dud in VIP. Time for other places.

If it's a CBJ do any dancers prefer non lube over lube or no difference? I don't recall what type I've used, probably lube, but got them in the bathroom or dancers had them.

Great review with facts, including no scan and.....interesting that you pay at the counter after done with VIP if I read correctly?

Been a couple of years since I've been there but the VIP area has the two large rooms with the smoke glass doors, I guess the Premier Lounge. Next to this are smaller spaces with an arm chair with a curtain. Beyond that is a hallway which I assumed had more small areas but never been down there so don't know for certain. It might also be the exit to the outdoor area? I've been in the premier rooms a couple of times but not the smaller spaces....maybe that's just where they do the topless and nude single dances. Their website has prices of $175 for mini premier (15 minute???) and $350 for half hour premier. When last there, it was dead and I was meeting a specific dancer so timing was a little fluid. The place seemed very dark to me, even by strip club standards.

I was thwre on a Thursday afternoon, around 4:30 or 5:30, and no driveway issues but, yeah, it wasn't memorable. The parking guy was there but no bathroom troll with his band. When I asked the entrance guy if it was busy he pointed at the sign that said $6. Red flag. Only 4 or 5 PLs and maybe 5 or 6 dancers inside. Fortunately one was on stage, and would have been my first choice, but unfortunately she had a guy watching her so intently they obviously knew each other and interrupting the vibe might have had negative consequences.

You mean the two private rooms with glass doors, correct? I've been in those a couple if times. Like them a lot but pricey if one stays long. Never been in the smaller rooms, how are they?

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Nicespice....how long are you in Portland? I'm planning to visit this month.

I've had similar experiences at BE except have had variation between location in the club. The two glassed rooms just past the entrance are weird. The open booths behind them have some privacy because not many people back there. Have gotten better mileage upstairs with the curtained booths. Depends on the girl....it really varies. Had one say she charges extra to touch her breasts but also have been offered a lot more by others. Fewer eastern Europeans these days?

The license scan might have to do with proving age of customers but it would be good to hear from someone in the business. Thank you for pointing it out. Other threads have discussed that it should be a required topic in reviews.

There was a recent one that got hammered for being too short even though the point was the club no longer warranted a visit. So which is it with the comments?

Good detail and description of the odd dance routine.

Once at an LA area club the dancer got off just doing really good grinding off and on for about an hour. At one point she joked she should be paying me. At least she brought it up.