Comments by theDirkDiggler (page 5)

The club has about 500 girls on their roster. Only around 10 so far working tonight. Probably many didn't want to show their face or something. Still waiting for an unattractive one to hit the stage so i can slink off of it just like at a real club ;)

Just using the peephole for now...

Thanks for the link. Too bad i missed the first hour...

Well for me, SCing is literally my only expensive hobby. So months without SCing means months of SCing funds in the titty kitty. Or piling bills if i find myself unemployed or unemployed for a significant time without any reimbursement. When i get to start again, it doesn't mean that i'm going to spend more than i usually do, especially if i find that girls are more hesitant to give good mileage because of the recent scare. So i may find myself going even more frequently but spending less. But if i'm consistently spending less because of worse experiences, i just may find myself going less again and well tough titties for the kitties...

Favipiravir is another promising potential treatment available right now for Covid-19 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-says-china According to the article, this may be even more effective than chloroquine, as it turned patients negative in a median of 4 days, compared to 5 days for the hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin combination. Also this clinical trial involved 340 patients so about 10x as many as the French experiment. I only wish they stated what percentage of patients overall recovered which would have been helpful. Although the words "clearly effective" were used, which were words that Dr. Fauci refused to use when briefed today about the use of chloroquine along with Trump. It seems this particular virus isn't all that difficult to "kill" once you know how to do it safely. Apparently there really are numerous ways to skin a cat...

If i actually knew about this, i might have showed up. I just assumed that all strip clubs (bars) were automatically closed. The Admiral Theatre in Chicago doesn't serve food or liquor either, but they're set up like a vaudeville theatre so they would probably have to shut down anyway and they did. Sad news indeed. But with their $30/$50 lap dances, i'm not sure what i would have done there...

I should make a correction. South Korea has only been isolating for about 4 weeks really, since their outbreak didn't occur until Feb 18, stemming from that weird church. Widespread testing didn't really take off until about a week later. Japan on the other hand was much more conservative when they discovered their first three cases in a period of few days toward the end of January. They started containment measures right away, being concerned about the upcoming Olympics. They still have yet to do widespread testing, probably to keep their overall numbers low, while still doing the lock down. So containment after 4 weeks is definitely possible at least at the state level, provided that widespread testing is done. But my original point still stands. The disease is way more prevalent than most people think, and without widespread testing and effective isolation, these mitigation/lock down measures might just be overreaction with disappointing results. Of course being only a few days into the lock down, many things can rapidly change over the next few weeks, or days even...

It seems that a reasonable estimate of the rate of infected in countries that have over 1,000 cases (including the US) is at least 1%. 1,000 cases is about the number required before you are about guaranteed to start seeing deaths. 3% was the approximate rate in the city of Vo, Italy (referenced in the article above) and city-wide testing was done as soon as one death was reported. 1% is also the approximate rate of the new positive cases in South Korea where they are doing widespread testing regardless of symptoms. That is for every 10k tests performed, they find about 100 positives. Now South Korea has been isolating/mitigating for close to two months now, so their infected rate is probably lower than the average high case country. The same with Japan which has yet to have 1,000 confirmed cases, but they're probably still harboring closer to a million cases if even .5% of their residents are still infected. China has supposedly eradicated the disease inside the country with all new cases being from people coming back into the country. But they've been in much more severe lock down for longer, about 3 months now. TL-DR, the overall death rate will certainly go down (although probably not quite as low as 1 in a 1,000 cases) as more widespread testing is done, and that's despite the quite high rate of the elderly dying from the disease. However, as treatments hopefully improve (chloroquine, remdesivir), that rate also goes down.

Yes, the regular PLs that have been unable to SC the last several weeks and months and beyond will likely be more than ready to provide the bulk of revenues as usual...

^ If so, that bodes badly for future strippers and that industry...

@Papi_Chulo I know that restaurants are allowed to stay open for carry out (i didn't even know that IHOP did delivery outside of DoorDash and UberEats), but most primarily dine in restaurants don't have a high volume of carry-out/to-go orders. I'm wondering if that particular establishment felt that the money they would make by staying open and having people pick up food was worth the cost of staying open. If that is the case for most dine in restaurants, than that is a huge blow for restaurants around the country as well as the reduced back of house staff needed as the front of house staff are already basically laid off. Or in other words, are people still going out to eat/pick up food or mostly just staying home and eating/"cooking" and having food delivered to them? I would imagine that there would still be a large faction of people still eating prepared food and not just fast food, especially with all these hoarders clearing the grocers...

Well, 1.7 million deaths is almost the amount of all "natural" deaths a year combined in the US, so if that figure comes true, then yeah, it's a pretty big freaking deal. The reality is that for the majority of people, the death rate isn't 1%. It's not even .1% which is the rate of the flu. According to Italy's and South Korea's stats (i can't find the ones for China), not a single person under 30 has died. Yes, not a single freaking person. No way all of those people are otherwise healthy either. Not a single person under 10 has been in the ICU besides newborns. For those two countries alone, yes, but that's a sample size so far of 4,144 people and 0 fatalities. Italy's data is about 4 days old and S. Korea's about 2 days, so Italy's number is much higher now (I got the data from wikipedia which is otherwise updated quite quickly). S. Korea's case is a bit unusual as almost 28% of their cases are 20 somethings which makes up easily their largest group (their next largest group is 50 somethings at just over 19% of cases; 1615 cases and 6 deaths), while Italy only has just under 4% of cases between 20-29 which is their smallest group besides those under 20 (1.2 percent) and those over 90 (3.0 percent). The next smallest group is 30-39 at 6.7% and their largest group is 70-79 at 20.4%. All this shows is that S. Korea is testing a lot more relatively healthy people, while basically only sick people are getting tested in Italy. If Italy was testing like S. Korea, that 4,144 number of people under 30 (Italy's share is about 1,300) with COVID-19 would be closer to if not greater than 20k. I don't know if they would maintain 0 deaths at those numbers though, but the reality is that the overwhelming majority of under 30s with the disease are not having severe symptoms. So there's a good chance that there would still be slim to none deaths in that group. Also there have been over 800 90 somethings tested and confirmed in Italy (and over 165 deaths) but no such cases in S. Korea. I guess Koreans just don't live as long, although the Japanese do and beyond (although they're not as transparent with their data). But how many comorbidities do you think a 90+ year old has? Like even if they recover, they're probably not long for the world. This is what makes the disease so perplexing and confounding. In a vacuum it causes almost no fear for young people, but for the elderly it's almost like catching a very quick killing cancer. So millennials and younger are probably just irritated and more concerned about economic fall out while boomers and older are much more concerned about health consequences as they are less likely to recover from those than the economic ones. Of course we don't live in a vacuum and the young folks can very well kill the older ones while the older ones can still hold the country hostage, or maybe they are the hostages depending on how you look at it. I have never seen anything like this. It's almost like class warfare, but between ages/generations and well, people that care more about money/materialism/net worth/standard of living than the human "cost".

Well Bayer just donated 3 million chloroquine pills to the US. One pill from what i hear is probably a strong dose so that's probably 3 million doses which should cover up to several hundred thousand COVID-19 patients.

This article describes the study better: https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/19/french-study-finds-anti-malarial-and-antibiotic-combo-could-reduce-covid-19-duration/ It's being used right now and for decades, not just for malaria, but also rheumatoid arthritis and lupus and seems to be tolerated well. The biggest danger is overdose, especially in children (whom in the case of COVID-19 shouldn't be prescribed this anyway, as they're very likely to fully recover quickly regardless) , and that's why there's a much less toxic version in hydroxychloroquine. Also best results seem to be found when it is combined with the antibiotic azithromycin. Who knew that an antimalarial and an antibiotic would have any effect on a virus?

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LeBron wasn't averaging 27 points a game this season nor 80+ games even without the suspended season. It will likely take him 3-4 seasons to achieve it. But a single injury could derail it. Until Kobe's achilles injury, he looked like he might make it but then he barely scored 2000 points his last 3 seasons over half of those in his final season where he played 66 games and averaged 17.6 points a game at the age of 37. LeBron will be 36 at the start of next delayed season which might be truncated as well if they try to save the current season.

The problem is that this "lockdown" without isolating positive cases might not be that effective, unless every one really just stayed home the entire time, and even then it might not be. If they still went out visiting friends and nearby or not so nearby family since they were asymptomatic or only mildly so and working at their "essential" jobs and went to stores and talked with clerks and customers and touching carts and credit card terminals, basically living their everyday lives, just with current restrictions, they're still going to spread the virus. The area might be at 1% infection at the beginning, but the numbers per household will certainly increase at various times during the lockdown, like first one kid could have it and then the next weeks another kid, and then a parent and then another parent and that's just from "sitting on couches" for a month. Yes, the household might gain some immunity but there's still a large population that hasn't been infected yet.

A big problem in general is that with the lack of testing is that no one really knows how widespread the outbreak anywhere really is. The US has about 5000 confirmed/presumed cases now but you have some government health official in Ohio saying that there are probably 100,000 Ohioans walking around with it. That's about 1% of the general population. And Ohio is one one of the states that had their detection later than most states and still less confirmed cases per capita that the majority of other states despite being in the top 8 most populated states. So does this mean that there are potentially 3 million cases of COVID-19 in the US right now? Shouldn't we be seeing or hearing about tens of thousands of deaths from either COVID-19 or pneumonia right about now or very soon then? You also have some other "expert" saying that up to 96 million Americans will contract it, which is still considerably less than the 60% of the general population figure that is also being thrown around. Then you have places like South Korea and China which have tested hundreds of thousands of people, and still testing quite vigilantly. China has been in the low 80,000 range of confirmed cases for weeks now (hit 80k on March 1st, and are still under 81k, likely for the rest of the month). South Korea hit 8000 cases about 5 days ago and will probably stay in the 8k range for another two weeks so it seems like they've mostly contained it. Japan is weird in that they were one of the early hot spots for the disease, but still have less than 1000 confirmed cases, not including the Diamond Princess of which the vast majority have recovered by now, and their curve is already flattening quite a bit (the number of new cases has generally decreased by percentage the last 5 days); their curve never got very curvy. They also didn't have any seriously saturated local outbreaks like Wuhan/Hubei in China, Deagu in S. Korea or Lombardy/Milan in Italy which would make early containment impossible, although they did have the Diamond Princess situation which probably actually helped them by bringing awareness of the disease and isolating it early at the same time. But they've been doing widespread mitigation for months and they've tested around ten thousand people compared to the hundreds of thousands and eventually millions in China and S. Korea which is still just a tiny fraction of the general population. Even in China and S. Korea, only people with noticeable symptoms are usually the ones getting tested. So their actual numbers could be much higher. Which makes me wonder how high the real numbers in China and S. Korea (as well as the rest of the world) really are. Donovan Mitchell of the Utah Jazz just said in a very recent interview with GMA that as of yet he has not had a single symptom. His teammate, Rudy Gobert only had mild symptoms at his worst and seems virtually "recovered" now, although possibly still contagious. So in other words, they're like teenagers (Gobert) and even younger children (Mitchell) in terms of their manifestation of symptoms. See all through Italy, Iran, Spain, France and Germany and maybe the US and until several weeks ago, in China, S. Korean and Japan, there are already possibly if not probably millions of infected children and young adults in schools, completely asymptomatic or very mildly symptomatic (like less than your usual flu) spreading the disease around, first to their general peer groups who usually have better tolerance/resistance of the disease and then later directly or indirectly to the more vulnerable groups. One observation is that the disease seems to spread easier than actual Influenza, which actually isn't that contagious compared to say the common cold (which are often caused by different, less malignant, strains of the coronavirus) or the measles. That the main transmission seems to be airborne, and by that i mean simple breathing and not necessarily even coughing or sneezing (which would be a symptom) although the viral load would be highest in those with symptoms. Also keep in mind that far East Asians aren't generally known as being very physically affectionate compared to Southern Europeans (Italy, Spain and France, with all their kissing and hugging between all genders and probably even more common with the older generations there) which has to have to effect on the transmission rates. I also don't know if the US is closer to Japan's trajectory or Italy's. Hopefully, the former, but more likely the latter... So TL-DR, what is the take away of all this? When all is said and done, the real fatality rate of this might be even less than the regular flu overall with something like up to 100k deaths worldwide out of up to 1 billion infected in 2020. Just that the elderly and people with comorbidities are especially vulnerable to the disease (10%+ fatality rate among that group that develops symptoms serious enough for hospitalization) making it extra scary and dangerous in its effects on the health care providers as well as on the world culture and economy. Or the disease stays in the 1-4% overall fatality range but only has an infection rate of about 1 out of 10,000 people like in China or S, Korea, or 1 in 2,000 people in Southern Europe, the Nordic countries and Switzerland after about 2 months and then it just abates somewhat sometime afterward with or without (probably with) the help of severe mitigation practices, social distancing and self-isolation. The truth lies somewhere in the middle...

^ Except that they can't. Most clubs/bars are completely closed or going to be as has already happened in several states as are restaurants. So you couldn't pick up a stripper hard on her luck no matter how much risk you or her were willing to take. I figure a lot of strippers take weeks off or longer at a time even in regular circumstances, usually when they built some savings. Now every stripper gets a bit of a respite. Anyway, at least restaurants can stay open for carry out services. Too bad they don't allow the take out option at strip clubs...

My observations seem to be similar to Papi's in that at clubs that require girls to go on stage and get naked on them (only two such clubs around these parts, maybe only one now, sadly), there really is no such issue. I think a girl either has to pay a fine to be skipped from the stage, getting dances/VIPs or sometimes she just has inside "perks" with management/DJs. As for places where the girls can largely do whatever they want, some of it does seem confidence related or just laziness or too good to take anything off for free. And there are some girls that don't seem to take off much or anything really even when there are plenty of tippers or a full stage. I just felt that all those stage PLs were wasting their money. As for stage being a waste of money, at most clubs where girls can go nude, they can make around 50-100 per set (2-4 songs) on busier nights. Sometimes significantly more, sometimes quite a bit less. Topless only or less stages seem to be quite dead even on weekend nights. But anyway, I think they keep all of their stage tips and for the limited amount of "work" that they do on stage, it seems to be more than what they would keep from doing one or two lap dances. On top of that, they can get a better idea of which PLs want to get dances from them and an easier way to sell/offer dances. But i can see how a girl with a regular/whale might not want to go on stage.

@nicespice I don't consider simply looking at a girl, checking her out, or even eye contact a sign that a PL wants a dance. Many PLs look at/study a girl physically to decide if they are even interested in her and some take much longer than others. Eye contact often means that the face is important to them. Even a smile could just mean civility. And often, even if a girl does pass all these "tests", the PL could only be budgeting dance(s) with one or two girls and there is a pecking order. You could be their first choice or their tenth choice. Ideally, a PL would prefer his first and then his second choice. Sometimes even, a girl may be more than attractive enough, but the PL just didn't care for her dances. So maybe she remembers him or doesn't, but he certainly remembers her and may still keep looking at her like bugs gravitating toward light, but with no interest in dancing with her again. Now if a PL seems to actively trying not to make eye contact or avoiding her visually, which actually takes conscious effort and may even be considered a bit of a "little bitch" or beta move, then that probably means stay the hell away. Or the guy could just be socially awkward and mean nothing else. SCs are often a place for PLs to hang out, chill and enjoy the scenery. Now if a PL goes up to the stage when she goes on, tips her and seems interested and then leaves, that's usually a pretty good sign even if he doesn't say anything. But really, the only way to know if a PL wants a dance if he basically says he does, and even then some guys still lie...

How to know if a stripper's orgasm is real? Even contractions can be faked, and the ones from orgasm are actually stronger in the anus than the vagina. If a stripper's clit becomes too sensitive to touch, that probably means that she came, but some girls might just use that excuse to get you to stop touching it. And some girls have a clit that can be continuously stimulated for many orgasms. But JustinTolook and CJKent are both correct. Some women come very easily and some won't come at all if they're not relaxed and aroused no matter how much they are stimulated. The usual strip club environment and lap dance scenario with all the distractions isn't conducive to women's orgasm. Anyway, this has "supposedly" happened scores of times with a handful or two of strippers. In actuality probably considerably less...

Not sure what the OP means by "pay more $$ VIP", but these are the price ranges of fully nude lap dances somewhat in my area: 1. Silver Slipper Saloon, Ottawa, IL - $25, low contact 2-way 2. PoleKatz, Bridgeview, IL - $30, moderate contact 2-way (on Tuesdays and discount hours, nude dances are $20) 3. Admiral Theatre, Chicago, you have to buy 3 dances @ $100. Low contact 2-way, but YMMV. They used to have $10 nude table dances and 3 dances for $75 but those days are history as of last year. 4. Ocean, Bedford Park, IL - $30, moderate to high contact 2-way. Some girls don't get naked and i remember during the dayshift the dances were $20 (nudity optional, but most girls did get naked). 5. Blackjacks, Elgin, IL - $50, moderate to high contact 2-way. They have hourly of even half-hourly 2 for 1 promotions, so i don't know how often PLs actually pay the full price. 6. High Heel Saloon, Somonauk, IL -$30, literal air dance, zero contact. Supposedly some PLs buy these... 7. Jimmy's - Chicago Heights, IL - $30, moderate to very high contact 2-way. Used to be $25 a few years ago. 8. Club 390 - Chicago Heights, IL - $30, moderate to very high contact 2-way. 9. Atlantis - Ford Heights, IL - $30, moderate to very high contact 2-way. Like Ocean, not every girl but many get naked. There were a few more, but they either shut down/closed or are under different ownership. There were once 4 nude clubs in Harvey, IL; now maybe 1 as at least two closed down (Arnie's, Club O) and one changed ownership. The last one was formerly Skybox and had $10 nude lappers with moderate contact which is noticeably inexpensive compared to just about every other club in the area , but you had to buy 5 dances to get that rate and the songs weren't that much longer than 2 minutes. There are also some nude clubs in central IL, with dances @ $20-30 when i went there many years ago. Who knows what they are now. In the quad cities in Iowa, the dancers got nude on stage, but only topless in dances, although at least one of the clubs (Daisy Dooks) has a $40 dance where the girls "flash" nudity, but their panties still stay on. Indiana used to have one nude club (Industrial Strip) in Hammond just east of Chicago, only topless now. Bummer...

Depending on region, i wouldn't say that Asian strippers are that rare. In the Chicago area there are probably about at least 10 currently working in just 5 different clubs, with most of them in three clubs (The Admiral, PoleKatz and Atlantis). None presently at Club 390 though although they've had one or two in the last five years. I would say that natural redheads are probably more rare, possibly regardless of region. In those 5 clubs, there are probably seen less than 5 currently working.

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