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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: The phrase "man bites dog" describes a phenomenon in journalism in which an unusual, infrequent event is more likely to be reported as news than an ordinary, everyday occurrence (such as "Dog bites man"). The news media generally consider an event more newsworthy if there is something unusual about it; a commonplace event is unlikely to be taken as newsworthy. The result is that rare events often appear in headlines while common events rarely do, making the rare events seem more common than they are. The pattern is also described in the proverbs "You never read about a plane that did not crash" and "You don't hear about the laws that a politician did not break." There are plenty of comments on this site about strippers scamming customers. I guess it can happen to strippers too.

No. It's all been good!

I liked this guy's suggestions . . . http://stripclubhound.blogspot.com/2011/02/extras.html

Some more tips for crossing the border at San Ysidro into Tijuana: (1) Take a cab to the club and back to the border ("la linea, por favor"). The fare to Adelita's/Hong Kong and back has been $5 each way lately. This is cheap insurance. I do not feel safe walking around TJ. I'm fine once inside the club. Adelita's has had an armed policeman at the entrance last few times I was there. (2) I don't know if a passport is required. But I always take mine and keep it in a separate pocket. I prefer pants with lots of zipped pockets (available from Columbia Sportswear). (3) Finding a decent motel in San Ysidro or close by  is a problem. There may be one. But I have not found it yet. So last weekend I booked a room at Hotel Ticuan in TJ.  The Ticuan is a world class hotel right in the heart of TJ.  Felt very safe there. Total damage for the room was $56 US booked on their website. They will ask for a credit/debit card at check in. I have a couple I use just for Mexico. I can easily replace them if necessary.  (4) Keep a low profile, stay sober and legal while in TJ. You should be fine.

Thanks, guys. I appreciate it!!

I have received very passionate, truly emotional DFK's from a couple of girls. In retrospect, I believe they were very lonely people. One described herself as "widowed" on Facebook and posted a picture of her and her husband together in happy times. Very sad; he looked a lot like me. The first girl never repeated the performance, while the second girl did each time we were together, ITC and OTC. She said she loved me and I believe she may have actually had feelings for me in some fragmented way. So I was fooled into thinking we had a relationship. While the emotional connections felt real and I believe were real, they did not mean anything at all. She just wanted my money. Do yourself a favor; read up on Borderline Personality Disorder. I think BPD affects many girls we encounter in our favorite clubs. At least BDP explains a lot of their otherwise incomprehensible behavior!!!

I guess it depends on the girl and how stable she is. I have been going to Cabaret Topless Sports Bar and Show Girls in Cabo San Lucas for about eight months now. I had been seeing a Cabaret dancer who called herself Jessi inside and outside the club since November. In January we met OTC four times and it was great! So I returned to Cabo in April with high expectations. We met OTC two times and she was a complete train wreck each time. Our exchanging phone numbers to set up the OTC dates also led to her requests for my help (read: money).  I am thinking club management might protect customers from the girls just as much as they protect the girls from the customers. So be careful out there!!

A New Law in Tijuana Regulates the Oldest Profession - New York Times 6/6/10 9:40 AM December 13, 2005 A New Law in Tijuana Regulates the Oldest Profession By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr. TIJUANA, Mexico - She arrived at the clinic at noon, dark sunglasses covering her eyes and a baseball cap pulled down low. She clutched a small pink book with her picture stapled inside. The dates of her examinations for venereal diseases were stamped in inks of various colors, like a passport. Her name is Olga, and like thousands of other women in this town, she works as a prostitute, recruiting clients at a topless bar. These days, however, unless she is tested every month at a government clinic and has the right stamps in her booklet, the police will arrest her. "You cannot work without it," she said, running her finger down the list of dates and notations saying "H.I.V. negativo." "If you don't have it, the police will take you away and you have to pay a fine." The testing is one of the measures that this city has taken to regulate prostitution, which has flourished here for decades. The city council passed a law in June that requires the town's active prostitutes - 5,000 are currently being tested each month - to have monthly medical exams for sexually transmitted diseases and forces brothel owners to adopt more sanitary practices. Those who do not face stiff fines and the loss of their business licenses. The city has also begun issuing new credentials to prostitutes to replace the old pink booklets. The new licenses look like a credit card with a photo. A magnetic strip on the back allows health inspectors with hand-held scanners to check the card-holder's medical status in seconds. "If a person is infected at the time when they read the credential, there will appear a red light that says she cannot work," said Manuel Mayor Noriega, who runs the city health clinic for prostitutes. Though there are still laws against prostitution on the books, the sex trade has long been part of the atmosphere in downtown Tijuana, a city that bloomed from a tiny town during Prohibition around bars, casinos, brothels and racetracks. Women in skimpy outfits loiter at all hours in front of bars and hotels along the streets in La Coahuila, the red-light district in the northern part of the city, beckoning to men who have crossed the nearby border into cheap hotels, massage parlors and cabarets. Martha Montejano, a city councilwoman who pushed through the new law at the behest of Mayor Jorge Hank Rhon, said the city has legalized the sex trade for all intents and purposes, in hopes of stopping the spread of disease. "It would be impossible to get rid of or to avoid prostitution," she said. "This initiative protects the clients as well as the women." In a sense, city officials here are trying to assert more control over a haphazard and informal system that had developed during the past two decades. In the 1980's, city health officials started a clinic in La Coahuila. They began registering prostitutes, urging them to have regular tests and issuing the pink booklets. But the enforcement of the health official's recommendations was lax at best, and while inspectors could take away a prostitute's booklet, they lacked any legal leverage over cabaret and hotel owners. The owners of brothels, massage parlors and strip clubs also often paid inspectors to look the other way if their workers lacked credentials, city officials said. One measure of the magnitude of the problem health officials face is that more than 8,000 women and men who have registered as prostitutes since the system began have stopped coming to the city clinic, Dr. Mayor Noriega said. It is unclear how many left the business and how many simply decided not to pay for the tests any more. Streetwalkers are as much a part of the scene in Tijuana as the wandering mariachis, who also linger on corners looking for clients. The hotels where the women take clients share streets with shops selling souvenirs, ponchos, leather goods, switchblades and cheap guitars, with old-time cantinas where men in cowboy hats drink tequila and beer to the strains of ranchera music, with barber shops where one can still get a straight-razor shave for a dollar, and with drug stores that sell all sorts of prescription medicines to http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/13/international/americas/13prostitutes.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print Page 1 of 2 A New Law in Tijuana Regulates the Oldest Profession - New York Times 6/6/10 9:40 AM people without prescriptions at low prices. The sex trade is so clearly accepted that on a recent afternoon police officers arrested several small-time drug dealers while dozens of prostitutes plied their trade in broad daylight nearby. Later, some police officers warned a reporter and a photographer not to photograph women in front of the topless club El Corral. "It is to protect their identities," an officer explained. The effort to tighten the regulation of prostitution was pushed by the owners of the city's 236 cabarets and tourist bars, many of which employ women as erotic dancers. Most prostitutes pick up clients in these nightclubs, pay the club's owner a fee and then take them to local hotels. "As owners of these businesses, we are worried always that our clients come back," said César Sánchez, president of the association of bar and cabaret owners. "Our principal interest is that our clients are not infected." Marías Magdalenas, an organization of sex workers, also supported the new regulations, viewing them as a form of insurance that might help their members avoid getting sick. The regulations, for instance, require hotel owners catering to prostitutes to cover furniture with plastic, disinfect rooms and change sheets regularly. The city has closed at least 18 massage parlors and brothels for violations since the regulations took effect in August. Still, the regulations could do nothing to change the general ugliness of the work, nor the miserable pay the market dictates, several prostitutes said. Women in their 30's who work the older clubs said they are able to charge their clients only $20 to $30 for sexual intercourse. Younger women said they were able to command a higher price, especially those who work at topless bars on Avenida Revolucion and other parts of town that attract more American tourists. Some said they could earn as much as $3,000 a week. It was the lure of that kind of money that brought Coral Gutiérrez, 22, to Tijuana recently from Veracruz. She came out of the city health clinic on a recent afternoon, still holding a cotton ball to her arm where a doctor had drawn blood for an H.I.V. test. She said she had been making a very meager living as a waiter in a café in Veracruz, but now made more than $100 a day in the sex trade here. "It's good to be tested," she said. "Not only for our health, but for everyone else's." Dr. Mayor Noriega said the incidence of AIDS in women registered with the city clinic is very low - with only three cases detected so far this year. All were women who had arrived from other cities and were seeking a credential to work. The incidence of syphilis and gonorrhea is similarly small, less than five cases of each discovered this year, he said. But state health officials in Baja California say there is preliminary evidence that the rate of H.I.V. infection might be much higher, especially among prostitutes who are also intravenous drug users, many of whom are not registered with the city authorities. A study of the incidence of H.I.V. in prostitutes will be completed next year. Dr. Jorge Alvelais Palacios runs a clinic at the state hospital here where free H.I.V. tests are available. He estimated that, according to preliminary data, between 10 and 12 percent of the people in the sex trade who come to his clinic test positive. Olga, who asked her last name not be used, said the fear of the virus hangs over her constantly. Her home is in Monterrey but she comes to Tijuana for a week of every month. The money she earns as a prostitute goes to support her parents and younger brother, she said. "I'm doing this for a year and a half, two years and that's it," she said as she entered the clinic for an AIDS test. "Nobody likes this."

I recently had the same dilemma and did not know what to do until I saw the term "stripper shit" in the glossary. This explained it all and brought me peace. I think some of the girls are so deep into deception (of themselves and also others) that you cannot believe anything they say and only some of what they do! And they are probably just as confused. But do get that Google Voice number. I did and had some fun exchanging text messages with her that ultimately went nowhere. But I am pretty sure it was my choice. Good luck.

Enough said. As a taxpayer and otherwise pretty good citizen, I feel a lot safer knowing that LE is spending their limited resources on protecting us from private transactions involving consenting adults instead of pursuing murderers, rapists, drug dealers, pedophiles, etc.

I am fortunate to live in Southern California. I recently decided to dispense with all the bullshit in dealing with US providers (Strippers OTC and Escorts) and just go to Tijuana where my experience has been totally legal and totally excellent!!!

Daisy, What you suggest is what I did. I found the approach does not work with Borderline females, many of whom are employed as sex workers. I am happy I got out when I did with my wallet and everything else in tact.

A disposable human being? Of course not; at least not literally. It's just a helpful point of view when dealing with a prostitute. I treated my last ATF like a lady who was deserving of respect. I guess she figured I was weak and she repaid my kindness by treating me like shit in true Borderline fashion! So I moved on. Guess who is now texting whom about getting together again? (Here is a clue: Given her circumstances the income she got from me is not easily replaced while i am freely spending it on someone else.) The irony is we would probably be seeing each other (and her income would be intact!) if I had treated her the same way she treated me (as disposable) instead of adhering to some altruistic principal that all human beings are deserving of respect even when they are not. I think she would have understood that. Sure you can dumb this down and accuse me and the OP of just being mad because we got screwed over. I plead guilty as charged! But I think its way more complicated.

The problem is "You stopped treating her like the lying, disposable, prostitute that she really is." Jack Torrance: Words of wisdom, Lloyd, my man. Words of wisdom.