Comments by LapHunt (page 5)

^I do the same, Livet. That's always been my MO while in Vegas. I did the VIP at Rhino a few times back when it was 3/$100 and the dances were no better than a good $20 LD on the floor.

The issue with Rhino LV floor dances though for the longest time pre-COVID was that they were mostly air dances compared to Sapphire, which actually used to have good floor action for $20 each. A quick glance at the Sapphire reviews confirms that place is absurd post-COVID and not worth visiting unless they lower their prices imo. The "new normal" of $40 each or 3/$100 at Rhino may be worth it (in the new landscape) if the girls are at least giving good grinding lap dances on the floor - which was always an issue at Rhino. Chicas seems like the best value in LV but is too divey for my tastes.

ilbbaicnl - If it was just a case of people working through issues on their own, most wouldn't mind. But it's clear that the eradication of gender is a larger societal push to redefine it for everyone... Consider, if it really was the isolated/harmless issue some claim it to be, then why are middle-aged Joes across corporate America being forced to announce their pronouns on Zoom calls at work, etc? Some 50-year old guy married with two kids living in rural Montana and they're mandating that the guy has to say "I'm Joe and I'm a He/Him" before a meeting or else he risks being fired? What sense does that make? And what about the inclusion of gender theory in schools? They're teaching kids as young as six that if they're feeling out of place as a boy or girl, that maybe they should "experiment" with the other gender. This is like many things. The media says "don't worry about it...don't be a bigot. Live and let live." But intelligent people (i.e. conservatives and discerning moderates) can easily look at the evidence in plain sight and see that it's not limited to what the media and the left are claiming it to be.

This trend isn't letting up. In fact, it seems to be accelerating. If Madison Avenue is any barometer, America's future will be that of South Africa.

Toronto is struggling badly post-COVID. It's the same story as other places: higher prices, less dancers overall, dancer quality way down. But probably worse. It needs to be kept in mind just how bad the pandemic restrictions were in Canada (heck, it caused the nation's truckers to revolt!) and how compliant Canadians in general are with basically being regulated to death. It may not be as bad as 2020-2021, but it's gonna be a long way back to pre-COVID quality north of the border.

Based on recent reviews, 2001 seems to be carving out a respectable vibe post-COVID. They also have a live stream where you can see all of the girls in the club at any given time (2001nude.com). Mons seems to have been done in by bad/neglected management.

The way Zelensky has been talking lately he acts like he can demand that the West enforces a no-fly zone for him. It's strange. Ukraine is mighty pissed they aren't getting the NFZ but there was nothing in the Minsk agreements that stated (directly or indirectly) that the U.S. or any Western country was required to provide it for them. That said, the media isn't going to stop pushing for it. It's getting so painfully obvious in all their reports, the way they keep inching closer and closer to making it seem like there's no choice but to go that route.

Good intel. At least it sounds like Vegas has some life.

If recent trends (based on reviews) hold, then this place just picked up all the slack left behind by Mons and actually seems to be offering something halfway decent to its customers in the wretched post-Covid landscape.

Time to stick a fork in this place.

^I echo the above. Inflation or not, these prices are a bridge too far. $40 for a floor dance? $20 for a drink? Not to mention all the credit card b.s. and other clipping going on. Imo, the places that keep things semi-reasonable for customers may end up being the big winners post-Covid. Hard pass.

It's a disaster reading through what Covid has done to previously top-shelf strip clubs. Or, more aptly, how management has reacted to Covid and what's happened to the customer experience at these clubs.

Good intel. But sounds like things in general are still pretty tame in the LV clubs. The $40 dance price clearly seems to be the new normal.

Orwell was not in any way referring to a capitalist dystopia with either Animal Farm or 1984. The books were a warning against totalitarianism. He was specifically horrified at Stalin's government in Russia post-WWII and that's what inspired him to write 1984.

boredxx - Btw, are dances here still $20 each?

From what I can gather, Vegas dancers aren't being required to get vaccinated in order to work (though it could vary from place to place).

I'm considering it, but it sounds like you can't really move around freely anymore since they assign you to a seat and expect you to stay there. If that's the case, then it sounds like you are stuck only dealing with the dancers that approach you at your table. The problem with this is it's usually the ugly/mediocre dancers that swarm guys at their table and then talk their ear off. The hotties tend to wait for guys to approach them because they can. Though if you see a hottie walk by that you want a dance with, I presume you could still get up from your table and track her down as long as you have a mask on. Can't really escape the pressure tactics from mediocres at your table though, since you're a sitting duck. I've heard this happening at clubs in Vegas too as it seems to be a result of the post-Covid clubbing landscape.

^In the United States racism is baked into the creation of the United States of America itself, in the society and laws, it can, undeniably, be seen in the entire culture and history of the country, from the Declaration of Independence to today. Have things not evolved since 1776? Is a country that twice elected a black President and currently has a sitting black(ish) female Vice-President emblematic of racism that "can undeniably be seen today?" What of a corporate culture that in the past two years has given millions to BLM? That is openly emphasizing and prioritizing the hiring of minorities and women? ^America’s institutions, the government, education, and culture, all contribute or reinforce, to this day, the oppression of marginalized social groups of poor people of color while protecting dominant social groups of mainly rich white elites and their allies. When you talk of institutions, do you claim that the America post Civil Rights Act is not dramatically different than the America of the colonial era? Again, this is using a decades-old mindset that does not reflect modern-day reality where minorities are given every chance to succeed. And it's not white elites vs. minorities. It's the global elites vs. everyone else (regardless of race). Race is being used by the global elites to divide and distract while they plunder ever more wealth, scheme up digital surveillance plans under the guise of Covid, concoct insane climate control regulations, and chip away at more and more individual freedoms. The social justice movements are distraction techniques. Turn women against men. Turn blacks against whites. Old Marxist techniques. To have everyone yell at each other about being oppressed and not notice while the globalists discuss their open borders plans over poached salmon at the latest "global conference" in Davos.

^It is a problem built into the system; white men are simply more likely to promote white men. Which means that, all things being equal, a predominantly white male leadership regime will tend to remain. The vast majority of HR departments in corporate America/UK/Canada are run by women. The field is something like 90-95% women. Since 2020, many companies are now openly stating "We are only hiring diverse candidates at this time." In other words, no men and no whites need even apply. While this thread is about the military where there are still a lot of white males, that is obviously changing drastically right now. Your statement about "the existing system, a white men patriarchal culture" is simply not true. It's not 1955 anymore. This appears to be a very standard leftist technique...to paint the world like it was in earlier eras (in many cases, decades ago) and use it to justify hyper-progressive policies in the present as though 1950s/1960s style oppression is still prevalent today.

The normalization of openly racist leftist policy continues...

I keep trying to envision how SC's return to anything resembling pre-pandemic levels with normal customer-dancer interaction, contact lap dances, etc. and I can't see it in the near future considering the gov't/media's posture on Covid. I suppose certain clubs in Florida and Texas can hold out...but for how long? Question is whether SC's ever come back all the way at all...

Timing is definitely the tricky part since the Delta variant has curbed what in May/June seemed like a steady return to (almost) normal. In reading reviews, Vegas seems like a "wait and see" right now since the Nevada indoor mask mandate enacted on July 30 is just such a buzzkill and as others are noting, it seems to be slow right now. Florida definitely seems to be best state for a SC trip but even there, Mons Venus and the other Dale Mabry clubs seem like they are going through a decline (though 2001 has had some decent reviews). In terms of prices, it doesn't seem like they will improve any time soon so the best strategy would seem to be to adjust one's consumption level (e.g. get 10 dances at $40 where previously you would have gotten 20 at $20; your classic adjustment along the demand curve). Flights, hotel, car rentals, etc. - I think you just gotta eat those extra costs. Again, timing is so tricky because on the one hand, waiting for the Delta variant to pass could just mean another worse variant comes in the fall which grinds everything to an even worse halt or things could open up making SC trips more appealing in the fall. Personally, I'm skeptical about things opening up even then. If truly itchy, a strike-while-the-iron-is-kinda-hot approach to Florida on the weekend seems your best bet. If so, hope you find clubs where the grinds/LD contact are at pre-pandemic levels...which will be no easy feat.

Brass Rail's Instagram account says they are only doing socially distanced dancing right now (i.e. no lap dances). Considering you have to give out your personal info for contact tracing, pay $13 a beer and there aren't even lap dances, this place seems to be offering customers even less than it did pre-pandemic...and that's saying something.

Papi, based on a couple of reviews now, it looks like post-Covid inflation has settled in here.

"From what I have heard and remember from years ago, most clubs just give air-dances unless you go in this "backroom" and then your paying $300-$400 for a "maybe"." Just fyi, but this definitely wasn't the case at Sapphire pre-pandemic. I came here numerous times over the 2000s and 2010s (always as a tourist and identifying myself as such to the dancers) and you could get good contact $20 floor dances here with lots of girls. Sure, a few gave air dances but the norm here was contact dances of varying mileage. The issue now is what things will settle in as post-Covid (which, at least for now, seems to be demands for upfront payments, less contact, and possibly $40 per dance).