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13 years ago
Oh, you mean like when the First Lady introduced her husband that way?
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13 years ago
You just burned out the cornea in my mind's eye
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13 years ago
1. No offense taken.
2-4. Oh, I'm not saying you should change your mind just because you're his favorite. Now if you're *my* favorite ... ;-)
5. Maybe I don't go often enough, but my experiences of "don't" changing to "do" has usually been over several months.
Recognize how you're different, though. Your take is "I don't do extras, but I'm a stripper". Many others have the take that "I'm a stripper who doesn't do extras." There's a big difference, and the latter's mind will more easily change than yours. And how's the legit customer going to know which camp you fall into?
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13 years ago
Clubber, yeah, you're right. Fuck me for being so stupid. ;-)
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13 years ago
Raincoat: "I'm finding that dancers are fewer and fatter."
I need to move wherever you live. Here in Atlanta, the result of the bad economy is heroin-chic.
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13 years ago
DATY is my absolute favorite thing. To be honest, I'd rather DATY than, er um, arrive myself.
And the first time I was offered DATY in a VIP was very early in my VIP experiences -- at that point, I hadn't even *fingered* a dancer's kitty yet. And OMG, was she hot!!! So I indulged.
Right after that, though, I decided that I never would DATY with a dancer again, no matter how long I'd known her. Too dangerous.
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13 years ago
(When I started writing my novel, there were no comments, so I didn't know about the "10 times in one night" thing. Obviously that doesn't apply to what I said. I was thinking moreso over several visits.)
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13 years ago
While I am sure that there are some idiots who think that their dick or their wallet is going to make you swoon, and while it's never right for anyone to get angry when you say "no", there are probably some legit repeat requesters, too.
(Note: anything I attribute to you may not be what you would do or think, but how's the customer going to be sure of that?)
1) If you're the guy's favorite, he may not be interested in pursuing extras from others. If you're far and away his favorite, it may even be to where he'd rather have nothing than something from another dancer. And he may think that there's a chance that you've changed your mind.
E.G. while it may be a hard ethical line that you're unwilling to ever cross, maybe he doesn't know that. And maybe if a financial crisis came about, you might be willing to change your mind, maybe even "just this once".
2) Similarly, you say "every club has at least 2 girls min who will do that". Even if you *could* point him to them, what if they aren't his type? While it *is* true that sex is like pizza, in that there's no such thing as bad pizza, I'm not *paying* for it with just anyone.
3) Or for that matter -- and admittedly this is a bit crass -- it can be a lot more fun to get it (whatever "it" is) from the girl who wouldn't than to just get it easily from the dancer who's the revolving door.
4) Less crass, but in a similar vein, just because she does it all the time, the revolving door may suck (no pun intended) at it. And there aren't that many virtual necrophiliacs out there who'd enjoy ITC/OTC with a nearly lifeless woman.
5) I know a few dancers who have said "I don't do that" (whatever "that" was) and it was just because they didn't know me well enough to admit that they *do* do "that". Once they got to know me better, I found out what their true limits were.
6) You said yourself that you used to be judgmental about dancers that gave extras, but not so much anymore. Who's to say that further down the road, you don't change your mind further? I have a feeling that very few dancers walk in on their first day, lay down on the floor, spread their legs, and start selling tickets.
Now me, personally, I'd have to really want a dancer before I'd ask over and over. If I want repeated rejection, I'll go find my ex.
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13 years ago
Rod8432: "I think when the dancer suggests tipping the bouncer for a better time, it's as often as not a way to suck more $ from us"
I'm totally with you on that, except I wouldn't say "I think". ;-) And I'd bet the farm that the dancer gets a cut of that extra money (or otherwise receives benefit from the bouncer).
OTOH, when the dancer refers to the bouncer as an "assfucker", probably not so much. ;-)
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13 years ago
SHIT! I sure as hell didn't want to start a political conversation. I was just pissing and moaning about stupid dancers.
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13 years ago
shadowcat, that's ridiculous! (your experience at Goldrush) I've never been to a club where the dancer wasn't taken out of rotation during VIP. And at Mardi Gras, I've gotten a dancer out of rotation, who was just sitting with me, for a measly $5 to the DJ *after* he had called her name -- sometimes I had to imply that I was about to take her to VIP, but usually not. And he always genuinely thanks me for the Lincoln.
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13 years ago
I'm with BookGuy -- only if she's intelligent.
I had a fave who wasn't trying to make every last penny she could every last second, so even if I didn't have the scratch for VIP, she's spend an hour with me for maybe 3 couch dances scattered throughout -- and I suspect I could've gotten away with less, but I *did* want to see that body. ;-)
She was one of those rare types that had a sexy (not just attractive) brain as well as body, although a bit ADD -- we once went from British comedy to rimming in about 60 seconds. But, anyway, if she kept talking during a dance, it didn't diminish the experience.
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13 years ago
bumrubber, what Clubber said. See the last paragraph of my previous comment.
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13 years ago
Although I'm sure there are more, there's only one club that I go to where bouncers handle the VIP -- mostly it's waitresses. Call me sexist, but I have a stock rule that females always get better tips from me than males. At the front door? A guy gets a "thank you"; a girl gets a buck or two. Female bartenders get bigger tips than male bartenders. Etc, etc.
Back to that one club -- being in a generous mood, I tipped the bouncer pretty heavy when I paid him for the room. Ten minutes later, the idiot is sticking his head in saying "Easy with the hands, guys" -- when the most adventurous at the time was my left hand on the side of her right breast. That was my first (and last ever) VIP at that club.
Basically, I tip a waitress for whatever, because you tip waitresses. I tipped the bouncer to leave me the hell alone, and he didn't.
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13 years ago
steve229, no, I even sniffed my pits to be sure. ;-)
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13 years ago
troop, +1
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13 years ago
How many strikes a club gets partly depends on several factors:
1) how bad the bad experience was
2) how convenient/close the club is
3) if I'm bored shitless with the other clubs to where I give it another shot
Had a really bad experience on my first visit to a club that wasn't very close (Oasis, for you local types) and almost never went back. But I had a #3, so I gave it another shot, and met my ATATF. Now if she just hadn't retired at the old fart age of 23 ....
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13 years ago
Dudester, are you here all week?
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13 years ago
gmd, possibly true, but CGI titties are blasphemy
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13 years ago
OTOH, my ATATF was considering boob job (she was "only" a C-cup), ink, and piercings. I begged her not to get any of that. Often, it's best to leave well enough alone.
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13 years ago
Ordinarily, piercings on the nipples would be a no-go for me. But I got on a 3-way jag for a while (where one of the two dancers was always the same, and half the time, she'd pick the other dancer -- she had great taste). One night, the girl she picked had nipple piercings, which I didn't know til we were in VIP. First time sucking pierced nipples, and I kinda liked it.
Since we wandered into the topic of ink, I'll comment on that too. Less is more, but I had one fave that had a lot (and had been criticized for it by other customers). But she used to be a European dominatrix (OK, she's still European), so the ink kinda fit her persona.
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13 years ago
"She had my pants down to my waist immediately."
Your waist? Where are they usually? ;-)
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13 years ago
For a list of ways in which technology has failed to improve the human condition, press 3 now.
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13 years ago
trojan, he was probably the best feature dancer ANY club in Atlanta has seen in years.