Comments by David9999 (page 11)

was averaging about $1000 a week, which I can easily afford, but for other reasons not advisable, trying to get down to less than $500 per week, which is possible if i stay away from AMPs - made easier in the last few weeks due to what I suspect is possible LE related activities going on

General claims or implications about FS being available in clubs - I believe are already there, but of course w/o knowing the specific girl, it doesn't always help. However, specific identifications are not going to happen for a number of reasons. TER in general reviews individual identity protected and location protected providers who by definition are providing full service sex, with only AMP girls having specific locations identified directly or indirectly. With strippers, while nominally using stage names, they are in effect substantively identified via their work locations which are open to the public w/o any screening - so issues of defamation or invasion of privacy could be presented

a women who is slender, about 118 lbs. approx 5 ft 5 inches tall, with small C's (fake or real), a v-shaped ass, and a tiny waist, long legs, a pretty face with delicate features, - and a feminine disposition, along with slight bit of softness to her body (vs a pure hard body) - now that's heaven on earth IMHO - and I would guess probably 2 out of 3 men would agree. Point is there's a universality to some of these things. Super sized boobs are not universally appealing in terms of the total package that draw most men to a certain woman

higher than normal percentage are either bi or experimenting with bi- I don't believe its the majority

one's bareback and the other's covered - isn't that the difference?

yeah right

"So women are going to get more pleasure from having their pussies licked than from being fucked." Look, if you do it the way nature intended it - either doggy style or even better [and the position offering optional leverage) - the woman prone on their stomachs with their ass slightly up - iy won't matter how bad your pussy lapping technique supposedly is Women have good reason to fear pre-positioning for a man in the above described positions, partly because they figure the man might interpret it as a sign to shove it up their ass (Howard Stern among others not exactly helping in this regard) - so just make sure she knows its vaginal sex is what's intended

As sung by Nickelback, FAR AWAY, a common strip club song. Here's the chorus: "I love you I've loved you all along I miss you Been far away for far too long I keep dreaming you'll be with me And you'll never go Stop breathing if I don't see you anymore" Now with this song, if the dancer is smart, she will sing along with one or several of the "I love you" "I loved you all along" phrases in the presence of the potential big spending reg PL, this part appearing 3 times in the song, and then when the PL inquires about what she just said, she will feign ignorance. Now some do this innocently too, and its a very catchy song and can spice it up between dancer and customer, even in a platonic sort of way.

Mindless drones, especially 7 or 8 or higher dancers, who keep asking for dances (maybe after just a bit of conversation) - will nearly always do the best. Nearly all the higher earners I know work this method, and I also noticed last week on the pink site a thread discussing and agreeing this very same premise If the dancers are not looking like fools, they are probably laying off business, and not earning what they could earn As for the 9 and 10 levels girls, many just lay back and are quite willing to lose business instead of being rejected, and the one I've noticed who does the mindless drone strategy and who flies in from 1500 miles and who works about once a month and goes all out - last summer told me she's done $3000 a night, which at first I thought was utter b.s. and maybe part of an escort tie-in, but when I saw her going from customer to customer on her subsequent visits to the club (w/o embarassment or shame for her 100's of rejections in her double shift) - I then realized she was probably telling the truth

When you happen to find out their bi instead of full lesbian, it can open up some opportunities, however I have to sidetrack it a bit to put it into context. Couple days back (on the holiday) when I had lots of extra time available one my ATFs, who's exceptionally beautiful but now and then a bit flakey (like these kind of girls often are), decides to pull a no-show at Club A despite some in-person joint pre-planning several days earlier, and despite leaving a last minute voice mail message to tell me she's going to be in, so I end up with a couple of other dayshift dancers, and with one dancer when we get into a discussion about who's the most beautiful dancer in the city, she tells me about this girl (lineage via India) on the night shift, who is so beautiful, she's actually "beyond" Miss X (my ATF) So meanwhile in between clubs, I detour to the AMP for a hour or so, and I am brainstorming during the session about what this night shift mystery girl must look like Then I end up at Club B and I notice this quite beautiful young (low 20's as it turns out) dancer, and I manage to start talking with her. Now she happens to look partly Indian, but I had no idea who she was, but as it turns out she's the dancer that the girl was referring to. She's actually working now in 2 different clubs under 2 different names club A certain nights and Club B several dayshifts (starting recently), which is not usually allowed under clubs probably unlawful gentlemen's aggreements. Apparently with her the managers in Club B a few weeks back didn't care to ask if she was working anywhere else, because they knew she could make them money Here's the weird thing (which I didn't find until I had in the very expensive champagne room session), her and girl dancer from Club A that was claiming her great beauty - were both lovers last year for around 3 months. What are the odds? Your regular doesn't show, a dancer then tells me about a comparable girl, and I happen (just per chance) run into this new girl in another club a few hours later. This is why strip clubs can be so much fun, when the unexpected happens. Actually she's definitely not beyond Miss X, actually a bit below depending upon one's taste, however she's quite a stunner, and apparently she's not hard core lesbian but more like bi. She claims she MERELY wanted to experiment, not sure if thats true or not In any case once I knew she was bi, I could then talk about how much of a waste it was that all that beauty wasn't being shared with men as much as it might be, since she apparently had no current boyfriend, info she herself put forth, because I would never ask or hint about that. I am not one to get into a extended kissing session with a very young dancer I've met 20 minutes earlier, but this appeared to be the perfect opportunity and I thoroughly enjoyed it, and she didn't seem to mind at all. Also, there was some hints earlier that the menu was somewhat wide open, however I had been at the AMP (which I informed her) and I wasn't looking for that in this situation anyways, and actually was quite happy to share her beauty w/o getting into anything else. I took a gamble bringing her into an expensive champagne situation, and it paid off. As I said earlier, strip clubs and the unexpected - can really be great. I am brainstorming about this mystery beauty the dancer at Club A told me about while getting taken care of by a hot AMP girl, (while still a bit ticked at my Miss Flake today ATF) - and an hour later or so later I am actually in a CR session kissing this mystery beauty in the Champagne room at Club B, at a club I didn't even know she worked at. Nothing much to complain about really.

true, simply transferring ownership could invalidate the adult club/liquor license. The bottom line in these these high entry barriers markets is that existing clubs tend to very valuable - probably no matter what happens to the economy. Think of a regular corner bar with very low traffic (w/o adult entertainment) in these restrictive markets. Strip clubs in comparison are in relative terms a license to print money - since they can sell 10 times as much booze, make money on dances and covers, and have the girls pay THEM to work there. This is why I would guess in these restritive markets I've noticed the owners sometimes actually off in Florida or some other far away locale, while they got someone else running the business day to day, as these businesses are very very profitable in some cases

lol - I'm been an admitted bar member (including DC) for more than 20 years, I know what the issues are, sorry.

The line the "party" is over would likely refer more to dancers as opposed to clubs. As I indicated "Paris" summary is quite perceptive however as for her saying "Clubs everywhere are starting to close their doors forever." - I'm not sure where that's happening. I know for certain that dancer incomes are getting hit hard, of course that's in relation to sometimes obscene pay levels from earlier periods, so with the more top shelf girls at least, there's still alot of cushion before Walmart will start looking attractive. In some locations its all but impossible to open a new strip club that also serves liquor, so in those cities and towns its very unlikely anyone would shut a strip club down, instead they would just sell the business as it would generally have signficant intrinsic value.

As I alluded to earlier one dancer specifically told me her surgeon would only do a breast augmentation that looked authentic relative to body type, and he would literally refer clients to other surgeons should they want to oversize. I never knew what she looked like before, I think she said small A, but the results (large B or small C) perfectly fit her slender and v shaped ass and long legged body type - and one would never guess they were enhanced. Maybe this an industry trend now - producing highly natural resuls.

Funny that after approximately 19 different recounts done by various organizations (many of them news organizations clearly slanted left)- in not one recount did Al Gore win in Florida. The Sup Ct didn't take "his term" away, it merely prevented the State of Florida from having multiple varying and arbitrary ballot counting procedures and standards in different counties in Florida in an election that clearly had a critical national impact and which was clearly a violation of the equal protection clause. Oh I forgot Kerry supposedly lost in Ohio because of the Diebold voting machine conspiracy too, 4 years later No need to worry, dems will win the next one

Al Gore needs to go to China to preach to them, they just had the coldest winter in 50 years. Gore is not interested in fair debate, he would rather let the major media front for him and his endless propaganda. If Obama wins, and the odds look high given there is a recession on the doorstep, you will be surprised how the debate will change in regards to the man-made global warming issue, because the lefties will have to put up or shut up, and since the GW debate is currently 98% political - they won't be too anxious to bash Obama (even though he's a man-made GW hypster)- who obviously will not be interested in entering the United States into a 100 year depression to (theoretically) drop the temperature approx 1 degree by the end of that period

back to the original question "Now that the most conservative style for fucking has become guy on top." Keep in mind that missionary style is by most evidence a very recent invention (in terms of large amounts of practictioners) probably less than 2000 to 3000 yrs old vs man's entire existence that could run as high as 3 to 5 million years where ape/doggy style was definitely the most pravalent position and thus explains and explains why such positions are highly superior in terms of the female orgasmic response. Human females were not designed to be screwed while lying on their backs. Doggy style (or prone) gives female orgasm more of a purpose, in effect (in part) a clasping mechanism of sorts intended to defy gravity with the purpose of retaining sperm.

Here's some ancedotal evidence strippers (at least) business is down. I was in Club A on Tues for 3 hours early afternoon and Club B on Thursday and Friday for 2 hours each day, also early afternoon. I did a total of of 8 VIP (Champagne room or equivalent) 15 minute sessions with 2 different dancers in-between hang-out time with these dancers and I saw not a single other patron using the VIP setup during the entire 8 hours I spent in those two clubs. Perhaps its the typical February slowdown, however I should not the weather was very moderate. Even last summer (another supposedly slow period) was busier in regards to VIPs ect in those clubs Note the clubs did have a fair amount of patrons, they appeared to be buying few if any regular dances, but was absolutely no one (except myself) buying VIPs, plus it should be noted both clubs were full of hot women and therefore no shortage of talent

Think of the way Pete Rose would help his team win, he would get lots of singles, then maybe steal second, or get to 2nd on on outfield fly out - and then often score, and help his team win. I think the dancers that can pitch for the small stuff and follow the approach outlined above, who go for the small (usually) one shot 20 to 25 dollar dances (or less in some locales) - they end up doing better because the lucky breaks then happen, and some customers end up regulars. They get the guy for one dance, make sure they sit on the lap for nearly an entire song for free while waiting for the complete song, then they nearly always give a real good in-close dance, so the guy will either buy a 2nd dance or at least remember the dancer. The point is these dancers know how to make money by giving something for value. Brazilian dancers (as one example), who nearly always have seen true lack of opportunity in their host countries, I've noticed in general can handle rejection alot better, and many can relentlessly keep on track to not be discouraged by merely getting a no from a customer and can move on, and these small successes can add up to big successes at the end of a day. Shooting for Champagne rooms or VIPs or big scores is more typical of american dancers, and when they fail, they end up broke for the shift and discouraged Now of course many american dancers have also adopted this "go for the small stuff" approach, and they also tend to do better than others

I will be the first to admit if a woman is fortunate enough to happen to have the comparatively rare combination of long legs, curvy ass, small waist, and a somewhat slender petite frame, along with a pretty face, and a feminine personality and a nice voice - and its still takes a bit of surgical enhancement to complete the rest - the results can be extraordinary, however the critical factor appears to be avoiding oversizing the breast. Apparently some surgeons now will not (under any circumstances) augment beyond natural frame size of the woman. (They don't want to be associated with these DD fakes that were once so pravalent.) THAT is when it all works, the B or small C if it fits the frame size - which then can turn certain women into flat out take-your-breath-away 10's

In a strip club when in the (admittedly rare case) where a customer ends up having some mutual chemistry factor longer term with a dancer, either ITC or OTC or both - its a real plus when the guy did the initial approaching, as some dancers consider this "wait till she asks" crap - straight from wuss-land. In the real world in a regular club (lets say 20 years back) now THAT sometimes could be hard for a guy to have the guts to just walk up to a girl and say "hi" and start conversation, especially with the more attractive women, particularly since they were nearly always in the club with friends who would also be judging you. Rejection was in fact rejection although if you stomach it, and if you were more than presentable you'd end up getting lots of dates and often times alot more

typically the turned-ass to the camera lens shot (with or w/o breast in sight) of a beautiful woman naked - will generally be designated the most sexy in terms of percentages by a random group of male viewers. That's evolution speaking. While breasts are great, the ass or more specifically the cookie in the ready-to-screw (female orgasmically optimized) position -is where its all happening as this represents survival of the genes for the male readying to have sex. Stated crudely, fucking the tits has never produced a single offspring.

Strange how (e.g commuting to work) a few decades back women went from wearing high heeled shoes in public - to sneakers or other more practical shoes, then they got rid of high heeled shoes in many workplaces. The the skirts started to go No wonder men like strip clubs

"why is it that i can sit down at my favorite club and have no girl approach me." The strippers who have the stomach and fortitude and the tenacity to relentlessly work the "wanna dance" approach or some variation - have generally tended to be among the top earners, and that's partly because they constantly tend to also dig up regulars alot more than other girls also, regulars which typically have only a 3 to 6 month shelf life and therefore need to be constantly be replenished. I've known of girls who have made large money in the business and do not cold solicit at all (except on the tip rail when the guy approaches them) who for a time were making large money, but they either 9 or 10 level girls who can just lay back and let guys approach them, however even now this laid back approach is not working for them Even though its a business transaction, its very hard for these girls to be rejected, because even though in rational terms many guys are either broke, just got to the club and are trying to settle-in, or maybe never dance with any girl - these dancers tend to take it very personally. The smart girls learn how to not overpush and to make gracious exits when the guy says no, and then they don't create bad will should the guy ever go to the club again In the case you've cited with a noticeable reduction in dancers doing cold solicitations, it probably because in some club while foot traffic isn't bad for example sometimes filled with now unemployed construction workers, so there are now a huge amount of patrons that want to keep the stip club experience ultr-cheap and private dances is one way to blow a budget -and that's all tied to the downturn in the economy in many locations in the USA currently. So these girls are facing even more rejection, and some just cannot take it anymore.

True, the breast as a visible substitute for the butt - is one of the main theories as to why (so many but not all) men find women's breasts so attractive when in fact women (in most cases) were during the 3 to 5 million evolutionary phase (way before pair bonding got established) where the foreplay itself may have often consisted the male running after the woman and tackling her and doing it doggie style or women in prone position - with the breasts not even visible. No date rape issue at that time. Ever consider why high heels make women so sexy? Obviously the simple answer is that they extend the leg, and long legs and short torso (via differentiation from typical males) are a sign of ultra femininity, but it also could be that high heels represent the extended calf of a woman fleeing (in the full running mode) the male chasing them. The male typically chasing the fertile aged and fertile time of month female would see the ass swinging and the calf extended -right before he forcibly grabbed her 34B or small C sounds very good, however unfortunately today there tends to be way too much emphasis on the breast, when in fact probably more men are most (way more than breasts) turned on by woman with a small waist and very (but not usually overlarge) shapely ass ideally on a woman still somewhat slender, and is absolutely not because of anal (which just confuses matters further) - instead its because nature designed it that way