Comments by ww (page 4)

@25 It’s really not that difficult to understand.

LOL...I think Hot spot used to be Leggs! Damn....Jakson been around the block a few times!

@Puddy_tat But what's your idea of "cheap" extras?

You might want to see if you can at least get intimate before you actually take a trip with her, so you can at least know if she's worth having with you. If it were me, I'd prefer to have something setup when I get where I'm going vice travelling with someone. And if I can't set it up in advance, just finding some trouble when I get there. Wouldn't even use any apps - just find the spots via the locals. But the stripper being late 30's and never been outside the country could be beneficial, if true. She'd more likely follow your lead, be grateful for the experience and show some fantastic appreciation.

Appreciate the intel. A decent number of dancers returned? I take your report was dayshift.

Not to worry! Founder is bringing back free VIP for dancers - that should get the party started in no time at all!

Sinsayionals was definitely BYOB. @gothamyte - For Super Fuego, there are a lot of businesses that failed during COVID. I know you mentioned all the various rebrands and changes that allowed the club to keep surviving. But COVID was "special". It shutdown a good chunk of long-running businesses. And some of them have still not fully recovered. Honestly, based on the timing, it feels like the club was just a victim of the pandemic. Even possible the owner(s) fell to covid before they could sell the club to someone else.

"Are certain clubs harassed to be more conservative while others can grease a few officers with money to keep quiet. Do police threaten raids if you don't play ball?" I'm not sure how the average PL could answer these questions without working for the clubs themselves and, even then, they couldn't answer for multiple clubs. Also don't know the point of the thread even if you received the answers. Are you trying to determine which clubs to avoid based on likeliness of them being raided? Unless you have some type of warrant, I wouldn't be concerned about a raid.

AFAIK, almost all of the urban clubs outside of Baltimore have closed. Fuego, Sinsaysionals, Bazz & Crue, Irvings, etc. Only ones left I think are Ebony Inn, Bodyshop and Mustangs and wouldn't surprise, if they haven't closed yet, are very close to it.

@Jascoi Honestly, I don't see the appeal. Avatars are essentially vanity expressions and not sure why that's a thing for folks on a site like this, but glad founder can appease some folks with it. I also don't understand why folks prefer to make these type of issues discussion topics vice just messaging founder about it.

The world has really changed when dudes care more about their avatar than azz and titties...SMH.

^^^ The "g" in "ggofv" must stand for goofy. As in goofy enough to search for a 6 year old thread and bump it like the warning applies today.

^^^ I've done it in an open layout, brightly lit club in the middle of the room standing up (granted, the club was crowded as all get out!). It can be done anywhere, anytime - you just need the willingness to do it and ability to be discrete about what you're doing. And it's possible it was the guy that got them caught....there's a lot about this story we don't know.

^^^ Was wondering is anyone was going to admit that extras on the main floor is not uncommon. At least not for those of us from the old school.

Gotta be nice to consider $20 a dance as cheap!

^^^ "You’re mixing two different issues, whether dancers should get free VIP and abuse by dudes pretending to be dancers for free indefinite VIP" Fixed it for you. The issues are related. And this whole thread is not for us to worry about.

@HoneyDewMelons I dont know if they are dancers or just "regular" woman, but I have seen females do reviews. Have no idea if they were a dancer reviewing their own club or a different club. Regardless, I would hope a dancer would recognize not to use the same name here as the stripper name they use at work. The review itself does not have to be good or bad. It could just state the facts. And as far as trusting the review, that is up to the reader. There are a ton reviews that I don't trust. You gain what insight you can from a good cross-section of reading and you draw your own conclusions of a club. Either way, the owner/manager should have no idea if a dancer that works there does a review unless the dancer drops clues that identify who she is.

@RonJax2 I'm aware of the separate club boards - those are not the "main" discussion threads. You can read ALL discussions by clicking the discussions link, which will include the smaller club discussions. Anyone can participate on the smaller board threads. The "discussion" you are referencing on the reviews are actually comments. If anyone wants to view or add to that, they can just get VIP in the ways previously discussed. "To your other points, it sounds like you just don't want dancers posting here?" ^^^You are misreading what I've stated. I've stated several times I have no issue with dancers posting. My issue is providing them unlimited VIP access for gracing us with their presence. Give it for free to everyone or give it to no one. Interesting how women want equality for everything, except for when they don't. And very few are going to purchase a subscription for the potential chance they get to interact with a dancer on this site. There are other places across the internet to increase your chances of that. Honestly, if you want to interact that much with dancers, meet them in-person, get their contact info and go from there.

Also, to further play devils advocate, the unlimited VIP for proven dancers was a flawed system. Just like how mongers complain of the current system of writing articles and reviews has a degree of abuse, there are ways to abuse "proving" you are a dancer. What's to stop a "cute" guy from playing dressup? What to stop a monger from getting their female cousin to "play" dancer? All for the purpose of receiving free, unlimited VIP. You only need to prove it once and you're set for life. At least with a crap article or review, you only have 4 weeks access compared with indefinite.

^^^ There are 3 main places of discussions: The TJ thread, the Political thread and the Front Room. If you're not speaking on Tijuana or a political topic, by default, everything else is Front Room. MOST of the topics posted are front room topics. Articles are not the only means for free access. One can do a review (a short one at that) or simply pay for access. IMHO, continuous VIP access isn't needed every single month. If you are retired, do you really needed unlimited VIP? If so, for what purpose? You still have the ability to post in the discussion boards.

"Point taken, but let me ask you this: would you rather be at a SC with zero dancers? Or 4-5 of them?" Bad analogy. I go to the SC FOR the women. I don't come to or use this site to interact with women. I don't have an issue with them being here, but see no reason to provide them unlimited VIP because we are "graced" with their presence. And that's if they even choose to participate. We don't know the numbers but founder does and over the course of this site existing he's probably handed out thousands of free unlimited VIPs with maybe 40-50 dancers actively participating on the site beyond their advertisements. That's a lot of giving and very little receiving. I consider that a bad investment. At least make them earn it. That way if they choose not to participate anymore, the access goes away - it's not some indefinite access where you can go away and resume where you left off next year. And I'm unconvinced of the relationship between dancer participation and VIP access.

@RonJax2 Free unlimited VIP is not going to bring a mass amount of dancers into the forums. How many were participating when that was the case? 4-5??? Dancers are still posting pics and able to advertise where they dance. That what most of them use the site for. Don’t need VIP for that.

"A nice side benefit is the reduced number of comments from the small contingent of simps who think the dancers give a fuck about their 'witty' replies." Amen! LOL!

Loss of liquor hurt initially (like a couple of weeks) before folks wised up and figured out how to compensate for that. The crowd returned almost to normal before this closure.

Free VIP already exist for dancers. They just have to put in some effort to receive it. For each example the OP provided, each of those points would make a great article. IMHO, that adds way more value to the site than their periodic musings through discusstion topics. The OP has also drawn the conclusion that the reason for dancer participation in the past was tied them having "lifetime" VIP access. IMHO, there isn't enough evidence to conclude that. Also, IMHO, the few dancers that did participate would tend to make discussions more volatile. This site is for monger intel. I don't need dancer insight on how to monger or conduct myself. Even one of the recent topics had Honeydwemelons chime in that the topic was not a "front page" discussion. Notice that no mongers made that comment. There are other places to interact with dancers - mongers should go there for that. If there is that much of a interest, dancers can email founder.