Changes at Vivide - no more straddling, heavy grinding

schmoe31415
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I wast at Vivide in Atlanta this afternoon (Monday). Everything was as my previous visit for an hour or so. Not many patrons yet (about 2pm), lots of dancers, mostly latina. Dances were $10/song and good contact, lots of grinding, some stick shifting, etc..

A bit before 4pm all of the dancers left the floor together. At first I thought there was some sort of fire drill or a raid or something. The dancer about to give me a dance said they had to go meet with the manager. The club was quite strange devoid of dancers, with a scattering of men sitting alone.

The dancers all came back out maybe ten minutes later. I was told by more than once dancer that the rules had changed. They could no longer straddle in a dance at all, and couldn't do heavy grinding, etc..

One dancer chatted with me a while and said the source of the problem was another dancer that had been fired. She apparently was doing a lot on the floor, though that wasn't the entire problem. She also didn't have a permit and couldn't get one because she had a record or something. So she got let go.

As retribution, she's been calling the police every day, "literally every day" according to the dancer dishing to me. Every so many calls she thinks the police are obligated to go check things out. I wonder if they're from the same person if they can't be written off to harassment. But in any case, she's apparently calling and reporting drugs, prostitution, etc..

So, the dances on the floor have to clean up. Apparently everything in VIP remains them same.

This killed the vibe in the club pretty hard. There were 30 or more dancers standing around, and almost no dances being done. I got a couple of dances from dancers I knew and they were fine, but they weren't what I go to Vivide for. I think this is also going to up the pressure for VIP, which isn't great.

I'm disappointed. I much prefer a straddled lap dance, even without a heavy sex-simulation grind, to standing or even a backed-in, ass-grind dance. I've spent many hours and a fair bit of cash getting dance after dance. I don't think I'll do that with the new arrangement, but we'll see.

Maybe when the harassing dancer goes away things will drift back to the way they were. To those that contributed to this because they had to get their dick out on the floor, thanks a lot.

In any case, FYI...

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Mr Monger
5 months ago
Bro just go to a regular strip club u know damn well vivide is an extras club…if that not what your looking for then why go. U know there’s a gizillion other clubs where the girls would be happy not to touch u lol
captainfun
5 months ago
this is too bad. hopefully it passes over time
schmoe31415
5 months ago
@MrMonger -- I'm not sure what you read. Not wanting every other word to be "VIP?" does not mean I want the ladies to "not touch me". I specifically said I went to Vivide for the high-contact, heavy-grind, straddle-my-lap dances.

Vivide _has_ extras. But it also _had_ great high contact dances. The latter seem to be changing.
Book Guy
5 months ago
I'm also not sure what MrMonger's flex is supposed to be, or what instigated his aggro. Why is he denigrating the dude who shared info with us? Serious chip-on-shoulder syndrome.

Anyway, to Schmoe31415, thanks for the info. I was considering a monger's trip to Atlanta for this club (and a few others) in particular. It's now officially on delay but I'll keep my eye on the reviews and discussion.

An aside, it's not so easy to harass via police. "Annoyance by cop" is often a bad play. I'm pretty sure that excess phone calls to the police can, eventually, be acted against, perhaps pro-actively by the police themselves. Depending on the location, there are laws against filing frivolous or false police reports, etc.. It would be up to a Georgia lawyer, prosecutor, officer of the law, etc., to know the proper specifics for this situation.

But, just generally speaking, doing the sort of thing that this vindictive individual is doing is really not worth it. Best that can happen for her, in my estimation, is that the club is put on annoyance-watch like it is now, for about three months. What else can she possibly get out of it? To the contrary, what she's risking is being put on public record. The cops might want to use her info to make real arrests, presuming that her accusations do pan out for them; in which case she would be identified as a complaining witness and might (again, depends on location and specific of the case) even be required to testify as to why she had her suspicions. "Well, judge, I knew they were letting the girls blow the customers because of what it tasted like" doesn't go down well in open court. Or the cops might want her to back down and stop wasting their under-funded resources for her own petty rivalries, so they might visit her to see if they could get real specifics out of her, in which case her lifestyle and choices around her own home will be under their scrutiny. Look up "plain view doctrine" if you think it's not a risk to invite the police into your home when you're an extras-provider ...
whodey
5 months ago
If LEO is looking that intensively at the floor dances, I imagine VIP will be next on their list.
schmoe31415
5 months ago
To be clear... my info about the police calls was from one dancer. She didn't seem like she was just making shit up, but I guess you never know. Also, again according to the dancer, the calls hadn't resulted in anything but some checks for permits. And several dancers told me VIP was still on the table as usual.

It sounded like the dance changes were preemptive by management to avoid "obvious" issues, and maybe not currently increased scrutiny from cops. I'm hopeful it's a temporary change.
Dolfan
5 months ago
We've had similar bouts of that sort of thing around here. Every once in a while one of the clubs will clamp down on table dances. Sometimes its motivated by some new manager trying to increase sales of lap dances/rooms by crippling table dances. Sometimes its precautionary due to some sort of vendetta with a former dancer, a patron's scorned wife, or similar. It seems to last about the same duration regardless of why, about 2-3 months of active enforcement followed by a slightly longer period of gradual return to normal and eventually you go in one day and realize its back to normal. A few times it's seemed like the clubs either all feared the same thing or tried to band together, but it never lasts thankfully.


Anyway, sorry for the misfortune. I hope things return to normal quicker than they do around here.
Puddy Tat
5 months ago
Glad I got there a few days early. Hope it's a temporary precaution.
5footguy
5 months ago
Imagine what a lowlife you have to be to get fired for something you did wrong and then retaliate and affect the livelihood of 50-100 other people. Fucking trash. Whoever the bitch is that's stirring the shit up, the dancers there know who she is, and I sure as fuck wouldn't want to be her right now.
5footguy
5 months ago
As an aside, I wonder if this could be a shift towards some dancers trying out The O ?
misterorange
5 months ago
Mr Monger - Lol - joined 2 months ago and gonna tell what's what to a veteran with 188 reviews. Fuckin dick-head.
bubba267
5 months ago
The story of what happened is plausible. I rarely go but happened to be there the first time this dancer was sent home for VIP service on the main floor. This particular dancer, if it's the same one is a bit of a mental case.
Charles Paisley
5 months ago
That same thing happened to me in Chicago about 20 years ago. All the girls called off the floor and were told by the manager "no contact" anymore. really killed the vibe of a club that wasn't that high of contact anyway. Left shortly after the girls came back out and spread the bad news instead of their legs.
Dolfan
5 months ago
Just to add on, I know there isn't any evidence this was the case here, but this could easily be the type of thing that results from getting explicit in reviews and linking a specific dancer to specific extras.

Manager feels it crosses the line, fires the dancer. Scorned dancer's wrath impacts the entire club. Or it could easily be a scorned SO in place of the dancer.
ilbbaicnl
5 months ago
@Dolfan I don't think that would apply to Vivide. I think they'd have to fire half the dancers if they fired for P4P.
goldmongerATL
5 months ago
From what I have heard the dancer was fired for fucking during a lap dance in the open floor. Truth?

It is believable, as it happened in the 'old" Follies. But it was rare there-- no more than 20 or 30 times a day.
5footguy
5 months ago
^^ I heard this also and if that's true, it would take an amazing combination of stupidity of epic proportions from both parties. Dumb mother fuckers.
Book Guy
5 months ago
Personally I'm not familiar with Atlanta clubs (Follies? , this one Vivide) but I do know that going as far as fucking on the main floor isn't all that uncommon. There's a special thrill to it. The "chair forts" at Treasures (Houston TX) f.e. are legendary and I've availed myself of them several times. Is Treasures still offering that type of ... fortification? Har :)
ww
5 months ago
^^^ Was wondering is anyone was going to admit that extras on the main floor is not uncommon.

At least not for those of us from the old school.
5footguy
5 months ago
V is an open layout, and often quite bright. It would be stupid to attempt to do it at V.
ww
5 months ago
^^^ I've done it in an open layout, brightly lit club in the middle of the room standing up (granted, the club was crowded as all get out!). It can be done anywhere, anytime - you just need the willingness to do it and ability to be discrete about what you're doing.

And it's possible it was the guy that got them caught....there's a lot about this story we don't know.



funonthaside
5 months ago
All the issues these days, and THIS is that agencies go after.
bang69
5 months ago
That rule is not going to last long.
ilbbaicnl
5 months ago
Maybe this high-profile law suit is prompting Atlanta LE to crack down on adult entertainers: https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/06…
Luckythirteenn
4 months ago
Where can I go now?
ww
4 months ago
Still fun to be had so no reason to go anywhere else.
Studme53
4 months ago
I had a buddy who took his stupid wife to a strip club. She thought it be like on TV - just good clean fun. They took a dancer back to the couch dance room and wifey saw another dancer blowing a customer. She freaked out and stormed out. That’s the last time he’s been to a strip club.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she called the City about it.
shadowcat
4 months ago
I went last Thursday and things were still the same. Got dances from 2 dancers that I knew. 1 white and 1 black. Both tame with their backs to me most of the time. A little discreet stick shifting by one. In the 2 1/2 hours I was there I did not observe any dancers breaking the new rules even though I didn't see any bouncers watching over them. I did not observe a higher then normal number of dancers doing VIP. I left when the drug dealer invaded my booth.
shadowcat
4 months ago
Correction. That visit was dayshift in Wednesday the 17th.
Hank Moody
4 months ago
@studme FYP

“I had a stupid buddy who took his wife to an extras club. That’s the last time he’s been to a strip club.”
Puddy Tat
4 months ago
Anyone who takes their wife to an extras club deserves the backlash they have coming.
5footguy
4 months ago
@Hank, was about to post exactly the same thing. Stupid buddy, regular wife.
funonthaside
4 months ago
PuddyTat beat me to it.

I was going to write.....Studme wrote "I had a buddy who took his stupid wife...". It should have read "I have a stupid buddy who took his wife...". Didn't he investigate the club prior to going with her? That is NOT the appropriate club for SO companionship.

Regarding no straddling....if they were blowing guys and dealing/buying drugs, does anyone think they will care about a straddling rule?

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