Changes at Vivide - no more straddling, heavy grinding
schmoe31415
I wast at Vivide in Atlanta this afternoon (Monday). Everything was as my previous visit for an hour or so. Not many patrons yet (about 2pm), lots of dancers, mostly latina. Dances were $10/song and good contact, lots of grinding, some stick shifting, etc..
A bit before 4pm all of the dancers left the floor together. At first I thought there was some sort of fire drill or a raid or something. The dancer about to give me a dance said they had to go meet with the manager. The club was quite strange devoid of dancers, with a scattering of men sitting alone.
The dancers all came back out maybe ten minutes later. I was told by more than once dancer that the rules had changed. They could no longer straddle in a dance at all, and couldn't do heavy grinding, etc..
One dancer chatted with me a while and said the source of the problem was another dancer that had been fired. She apparently was doing a lot on the floor, though that wasn't the entire problem. She also didn't have a permit and couldn't get one because she had a record or something. So she got let go.
As retribution, she's been calling the police every day, "literally every day" according to the dancer dishing to me. Every so many calls she thinks the police are obligated to go check things out. I wonder if they're from the same person if they can't be written off to harassment. But in any case, she's apparently calling and reporting drugs, prostitution, etc..
So, the dances on the floor have to clean up. Apparently everything in VIP remains them same.
This killed the vibe in the club pretty hard. There were 30 or more dancers standing around, and almost no dances being done. I got a couple of dances from dancers I knew and they were fine, but they weren't what I go to Vivide for. I think this is also going to up the pressure for VIP, which isn't great.
I'm disappointed. I much prefer a straddled lap dance, even without a heavy sex-simulation grind, to standing or even a backed-in, ass-grind dance. I've spent many hours and a fair bit of cash getting dance after dance. I don't think I'll do that with the new arrangement, but we'll see.
Maybe when the harassing dancer goes away things will drift back to the way they were. To those that contributed to this because they had to get their dick out on the floor, thanks a lot.
In any case, FYI...
A bit before 4pm all of the dancers left the floor together. At first I thought there was some sort of fire drill or a raid or something. The dancer about to give me a dance said they had to go meet with the manager. The club was quite strange devoid of dancers, with a scattering of men sitting alone.
The dancers all came back out maybe ten minutes later. I was told by more than once dancer that the rules had changed. They could no longer straddle in a dance at all, and couldn't do heavy grinding, etc..
One dancer chatted with me a while and said the source of the problem was another dancer that had been fired. She apparently was doing a lot on the floor, though that wasn't the entire problem. She also didn't have a permit and couldn't get one because she had a record or something. So she got let go.
As retribution, she's been calling the police every day, "literally every day" according to the dancer dishing to me. Every so many calls she thinks the police are obligated to go check things out. I wonder if they're from the same person if they can't be written off to harassment. But in any case, she's apparently calling and reporting drugs, prostitution, etc..
So, the dances on the floor have to clean up. Apparently everything in VIP remains them same.
This killed the vibe in the club pretty hard. There were 30 or more dancers standing around, and almost no dances being done. I got a couple of dances from dancers I knew and they were fine, but they weren't what I go to Vivide for. I think this is also going to up the pressure for VIP, which isn't great.
I'm disappointed. I much prefer a straddled lap dance, even without a heavy sex-simulation grind, to standing or even a backed-in, ass-grind dance. I've spent many hours and a fair bit of cash getting dance after dance. I don't think I'll do that with the new arrangement, but we'll see.
Maybe when the harassing dancer goes away things will drift back to the way they were. To those that contributed to this because they had to get their dick out on the floor, thanks a lot.
In any case, FYI...
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last commentVivide _has_ extras. But it also _had_ great high contact dances. The latter seem to be changing.
Anyway, to Schmoe31415, thanks for the info. I was considering a monger's trip to Atlanta for this club (and a few others) in particular. It's now officially on delay but I'll keep my eye on the reviews and discussion.
An aside, it's not so easy to harass via police. "Annoyance by cop" is often a bad play. I'm pretty sure that excess phone calls to the police can, eventually, be acted against, perhaps pro-actively by the police themselves. Depending on the location, there are laws against filing frivolous or false police reports, etc.. It would be up to a Georgia lawyer, prosecutor, officer of the law, etc., to know the proper specifics for this situation.
But, just generally speaking, doing the sort of thing that this vindictive individual is doing is really not worth it. Best that can happen for her, in my estimation, is that the club is put on annoyance-watch like it is now, for about three months. What else can she possibly get out of it? To the contrary, what she's risking is being put on public record. The cops might want to use her info to make real arrests, presuming that her accusations do pan out for them; in which case she would be identified as a complaining witness and might (again, depends on location and specific of the case) even be required to testify as to why she had her suspicions. "Well, judge, I knew they were letting the girls blow the customers because of what it tasted like" doesn't go down well in open court. Or the cops might want her to back down and stop wasting their under-funded resources for her own petty rivalries, so they might visit her to see if they could get real specifics out of her, in which case her lifestyle and choices around her own home will be under their scrutiny. Look up "plain view doctrine" if you think it's not a risk to invite the police into your home when you're an extras-provider ...
It sounded like the dance changes were preemptive by management to avoid "obvious" issues, and maybe not currently increased scrutiny from cops. I'm hopeful it's a temporary change.
Anyway, sorry for the misfortune. I hope things return to normal quicker than they do around here.
Manager feels it crosses the line, fires the dancer. Scorned dancer's wrath impacts the entire club. Or it could easily be a scorned SO in place of the dancer.
It is believable, as it happened in the 'old" Follies. But it was rare there-- no more than 20 or 30 times a day.
At least not for those of us from the old school.
And it's possible it was the guy that got them caught....there's a lot about this story we don't know.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she called the City about it.
“I had a stupid buddy who took his wife to an extras club. That’s the last time he’s been to a strip club.”
I was going to write.....Studme wrote "I had a buddy who took his stupid wife...". It should have read "I have a stupid buddy who took his wife...". Didn't he investigate the club prior to going with her? That is NOT the appropriate club for SO companionship.
Regarding no straddling....if they were blowing guys and dealing/buying drugs, does anyone think they will care about a straddling rule?