I've been working in strip clubs for the past 12 years now and I'll tell you what I've seen a definite decrease in the number of girls that are working in the strip clubs and in the quality of customer and the customers that are coming in I feel like there's a big gap between the customers that are 50 and up and then the customers that are between 20 and 35 let's say there's just not many of them coming in and there's not many girls that want to work in the club when they can try and work online or or do something where they don't have to have actual contact with anybody . I remember back in the day when the strip clubs were booming on a Saturday night or Friday night because they had some porn star whose headlining the club and it was people's only chance to see her live in in person and to see her besides just in a movie but now the internet and the personalization of all that kind of stuff and we're so intimate with everybody now there's nothing special about seeing a pornstar at a strip club everybody's a pornstar nowadays . I think in large cities like Miami and New York Denver those type of places there's always going to be a couple strip clubs just because that's something that you know you'll always have the need for that kind of entertainment but I think a lot of the strip clubs that are in smaller vacation areas or just smaller towns are becoming a thing in the past. Seeing some girls tits is not as exciting as it once was now you can see if it's everywhere you can see vaginas everywhere you can see anything anywhere and I think because we become so desensitized because of the Internet then unless you're at like a sex club or a club that's really pushing the limits it's just not as exciting or something that anybody would want to attend. And I don't think that girls want to work at these clubs because they don't really understand what they're supposed to be about these younger girls have no idea what customer services they have no idea about repeat customers and building a client base. I think that sex clubs are basically going to replace strip clubs I think that that's the wave of the future where you can go and couples are single people or you know anybody can go there and find a throuple or a married couple can go there and find a third, but as far as just straight strip clubs or titty clubs I think they're becoming something that's not going to be around in the next 10 years let's say I think sex clubs will be but unless you're in a major city I don't think that strip clubs are going to be found everywhere like they once were. Has anyone else noticed what a dip in business there has been and what a decline in the number of girls working and the variety of girls working and in the number of customers taking seats at the stage?. It makes me sad because it was such an amazing experience for me and I think it's a great place for younger guys to learn how to pick up women or talk to women I think it's a great place to go and have a good time and I think there's a need for for loneliness and dealing with you know people who aren't able to just find a relationship and who are lonely I think it's a great place to find somebody that you can connect with. And for a young woman with an opportunity to travel and make money it's amazing I just think it's a sad thing it'll be a sad day when there's no longer strip clubs in any little small town you find.
Are strip clubs becoming a thing of the past??
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I think you are spot on with your analysis. Alot of younger women don't have good in-person communication skills in the age of social media and smart phones. Do you ever notice young people prefer to do everything by text than make an actual phone call? Many young women prefer to go the online content route. From the customer perspective, average dancer attractiveness has fallen a notch or two and dancer entitlement has gone up. You have dancers over counting songs and then on top of that expect to be tipped. People vote with their wallets. When clubs are dead, even on Friday and Saturday nights, there is no longer value for the customer. If I didn't have work travel, I would have exited this pastime by now.
I read all that shit.
As long as an NBA team is physically located close to the club in question everything should be fine.
Hey Skittles. To me being able to see the genuine article T&A right up close is always going to be way way way better than online. No question. At least where I live the clubs are still pretty busy.
sinclair + 1. Post covid has accelerated the trend towards more online vs personal interactions. People under 40 haven't known life without the internet. When I've called a company specifically asking to speak with a representative (sometimes more than twice), a f#cking bot keeps asking me why I'm calling. (Translation- we at Company X are determined to keep you from talking with a live person and having a robot address your issue instead.) So. as younger folk who prefer texting over talking increasingly outnumber the Boomers and Xers, the club customer base of 2006, 2016 are not as numerous in 2026. Online interaction has its place, I much prefer in person interaction in the clubs. But as the customer service model shows that more people fully embrace non personal interactions, the strip club decline that OP pointed out is sure to follow.
Great analysis. I agree with OP on all points, but punctuation and paragraph structure seem to have gone away as well.
The availability of online porn is a much bigger issue than only fans. And social media is killing the young guys from developing interpersonal skills. And the movement away from alcohol consumption by gen xyz’ers keeps people from making poor decisions that strip clubs often count on for business. The likelihood that our way of life and our set of values (poor as they might be) survive one more generation is rapidly slipping away. Pretty sure I won’t mind missing this next iteration.
Agree with 623, alcohol consumption is the lifeblood of traditional strip clubs, and it’s plummeting among younger guys. As drinking PLs start drifting away, not even charging $10 for a Diet Coke or sparkling water will keep clubs alive.
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Wow, it's been 15 minutes since the last thread about strip clubs declining. I almost forgot!
Aren’t sex clubs just venues for swingers? I’m trying to understand.
But yeah, that’s not a good sign if this type of post is being made in Florida in March.
@ThePuddyTat Well, this is a site to discuss strip clubs, and if there were never any potentially redundant or overlapping topics, it might not be very easy to keep the discussion of clubs alive! I'm just happy to see anyone trying to keep the club discussions active, and even if not every topic can be completely new, sometimes there's a unique take on an old topic... 😊
I’m fine if clip joints (Glass Slipper or worse) and non-contact (unless centerfolds type looks) places go away.
It’s only bad if Pompano, Philly, Dallas, Seattle etc go away.
Back before World War II, there were clubs with taxi dancers ( en.wikipedia.org ). Which, if my only options were a taxi dance, and a topless/nude air dance, I'd pick the taxi dance. Yet somehow taxi dancing was supplanted by topless stage dancing. Since sex is older than the human race, you'd think what people get off on would stay pretty consistent. But it doesn't. Maybe it's like trying to understand why bowling peaked in the 1970s.
"no idea what customer services" "no idea about repeat customers" I concur, been a dying industry since 2008 financial turn
If the minimum level of contact a PL wants is outside a dancer's boundaries, no business will be done. PLs should not whine about GPS or dancers not providing "customer service". Likewise, dancers should not whine that the good customers are gone, when they may just be less hard up.
For those of us who have been going to strip clubs for 15+ years, we should consider that it's even harder for women two generations younger to grok us, as opposed to one generation.
The taxi dances mentioned above do sound like they might be a cheap and enjoyable way to spend time. Strip clubs can be expensive and rising prices is causing people to visit them less often. This is not just strip clubs I am seeing this with. I eat out a lot and restaurants are less crowded than they used to be.
Men who enjoyed taxi dances and treating (pay for play dating) collectively decided they preferred Flossy Lee and then pinup and then eventually Playboy.
Nowadays, I wonder if it will be Girls Gone Wild to OnlyFans to whatever shenanigans are/will be available on VR head sets.
Informal pay for play was more common when the gender pay gap was even bigger. It was pretty much unworkable to do explicit pay for play without a pimp. It was a very complicated game doing it implicitly. How much do you want to see fronted before putting out for the first time. How much should you expect to keep putting out. Should you be glad if there's actual cash left on the dresser, or, to retain the no-sex-work-here pretense, prefer gifts you could return or pawn.
One of my favs told me men she didn't now would approach her in malls, and offer to buy her expensive gifts. I asked her why she'd ever say no to that. She said, as she'd grown up in a rough neighborhood, she knew it wouldn't be safe to try to get something for nothing. She said they were the type that knew they'd be back in jail/prison eventually for one reason or another, and fucking you up for trying to play them would be as good a reason as any.
NYC area experience here. In the outer boroughs I’d say 50% of clubs closed permanently during COVID. In many others, drink prices went up 50% and dance prices went up 30-40%. Were had an almost complete turnover of dancers. What used to be 25-35 yo on day shift, are now 35-50. Yes, sometimes we get younger ones, but not often. The clientele also seems to trend 40+.
TBH, some of this is money grab by the clubs. Covid rules made it so that they were allowed to offer VIP, but not regular dances. So when the restrictions ended, some clubs made it unattractive to do regular dances. (More cameras, less time, higher prices, and clubs took cuts of the LD price).
many clubs became defacto brothels, with action taking place in VIP. And the attitude of the dancers went from being dancers to hookers.
In Manhattan, and NJ, the changes were not as dramatic. Many Manhattan clubs cut the lunchtime shifts. The ladies went from 18-27 yo to 25-40 yo. LD costs stayed flat. VIP and drink costs are still ridiculous.
NJ clubs stayed basically the same. Some price increases, but the level of dancers didn’t change much. NJ clubs were angled to reopen and do LDs much sooner than NYC, so the culture stayed the same imho.
More than anything I'd say that the challenges facing the industry are demographic. Places that are losing population are suffering the most, especially since many of the people leaving are the most affluent, which is what makes them mobile in the first place.
I don't buy the online competition argument. T&A has been widely available online for 25+ years, yet strip clubs continued to flourish until 2008. These things can't really replicate the SC experience.
I do buy that cultural influences have also played a role. Guys don't view themselves as "providers" they way they once did. But still, live naked girls are live naked girls.
At least here in N. FL, strip clubs are definitely still chugging along. In fact, in my regular club, the dancers almost never turnover. It's the same girls month over month and sometimes year over year. As I've heard from a few of them, the girls aren't leaving because the money's too good. Guys are definitely still spending on strippers around these parts.
If there is one thing that I think is seriously challenging strip clubs, IMO it is the growth of online sugar dating sites. They both target the same affluent guys and both offer those in person social and other interactions. The big difference is that on a sugar date, they guy is likely to end the night with the sugar.
I don't see it dying at all. Smaller, denser, less clubs, yes. But at the end of the day, it's such a great way for girls who look pretty good to make quick big cash. There's too many attractive girls I see working fast food for me to think that being a stripper couldn't be an option for them. In a lot of towns in America for young chick that might be your only options if your trying to work at least. You can make great money doing it, that not nothing today, especially if this AI revolution takes out a lot of jobs.
And btw there are plenty of clubs in America, I don't see their books or nothing so I don't truly know but they are absolutely packed to gills, your telling me they are gonna be going under soon? Yeah I just don't see it anytime soon.
I saw a girl today, blonde, innocent looking, maybe 19, at a Whole Foods, her name tag was even blank, getting the orientation from a senior employee. I really wanted to wait until the supervisor and telll her she can make more doing other things and have a more flexible schedule. But alas I wimped out didn’t want to risk negative reaction and possibly being trespassed from the store
Every day there are hundreds maybe thousands (don’t want to do the math) of girls turning 18 and most of them want clothes/handbags etc. I have hope
You can get an escort for as low as $100 for 15 minutes, $200 for 30 minutes, etc. with no other entrance fees or charges. A lot of these girls will be hot and thicc just like the strippers. At a strip club you likely have to invest $100 before even finding out whether extras are available or not
I thought you had to be 21 to dance in Florida now.
I don't know as most women were ever very big on conspicuous consumption. I think post-Gen-X chicks are even less likely to be big on it. Dumb as I was at 18, I knew better than to be overly impressed by people about my age with cash to throw around. As opposed to people over 30 who had a house and/or other investments. Stripping isn't easy work, and you're stuck with the stigma, even if it doesn't set you up to stay in the middle class in later life. Which, it often doesn't.
Strip clubs have been dying from the beginning of time according to some.
So then why are they still a thing?
yes, ilbbaicnl, but there are other states
@alternative_carry657 It really depends on location. NYC definitely things are going down hill. Other locations, maybe the opposite.
Except every dancer I know who told me she does content online tells me it is incredibly difficult to maintain an online presence that continuously gets guys to buy her content. She has to spend countless hours making new content and managing her subscription base to the point it is easier for her to come into the club and develop a bunch of regulars for cash, which is unreported income. Seems to me that most of these dancers prefer the club business model Over only fans.